Ment/Trest Experiences

[Hablooblah]

Boys id like to know how your experience with Ment was? What dosage/duration did you run? Ratio with other compounds. Results? How you handled estrogen on it? Different approaches to the 7a-methyl-estradiol aromatization? Specifically Ment Acetate. Ive read through the limited threads on it on the site and done a good amount of research just looking for more hands on experiences. Ive never ran it but have some on hand and will either finish up the last 4 or so weeks of this growth phase with it or save it for another time, perhaps even try it on my cut with some primo or mast. So any tips or experiences youd like to share id appreciate it. Like I said this compound is completely new to me.

 

[19NorFan]

I am currently on MENT as a part of my rebound cycle.

For context - Current cycle, daily:
70mg NPP
5mg Test Prop (10mg EOD admin)
25mg Injectable YK 11
25mg Trestolone Acetate
6iu HGH

However, I'm 6 days in, so I can't quite give a ton of feedback. But the gains are coming on very quickly, I'd say this is most pumped/full that I've ever felt on less than 1g/week of gear. Visually, you look like you're on an oral steroid and you have this feeling of energy and motivation like you could run through a wall. Mood is really good on it too. Some or all of this could be potentiated by the fact that I'm coming out of a deficit and eating in a surplus again.

In the past I used it briefly but could not manage blood pressure and estrogen and this was on a large test base. It's more manageable this time around. YK-11 could be helping with some of that too, it's noted to reduce E2 (based on anecdotal experiences).

 

[chadmack]

Very fast strength gains for me but at 50+ i worried me about injury.
Shot up my bp as well.
20mg ED
Test at 250/week no e2 issues

 

[Hablooblah]

I am currently on MENT as a part of my rebound cycle.

For context - Current cycle, daily:
70mg NPP
5mg Test Prop (10mg EOD admin)
25mg Injectable YK 11
25mg Trestolone Acetate
6iu HGH

However, I'm 6 days in, so I can't quite give a ton of feedback. But the gains are coming on very quickly, I'd say this is most pumped/full that I've ever felt on less than 1g/week of gear. Visually, you look like you're on an oral steroid and you have this feeling of energy and motivation like you could run through a wall. Mood is really good on it too. Some or all of this could be potentiated by the fact that I'm coming out of a deficit and eating in a surplus again.

In the past I used it briefly but could not manage blood pressure and estrogen and this was on a large test base. It's more manageable this time around. YK-11 could be helping with some of that too, it's noted to reduce E2 (based on anecdotal experiences).

Ill also be starting another run with yk11 as its closing on my 4 week off time of it. So you think a lower test base is optimal? Probably better in my opinion too. I could drop the 125mg prop within the next week and lower my cyp from 600 to 300mg. My Totals then would be 300 Test 400 Primo 300 NPP... my idea would be to add 105MG Ment(15mg day) just to test the waters. And adjust from there. I aromatize at a low rate so I dont believe estrogen will a major issue(hopefully)

 

[Hablooblah]

Very fast strength gains for me but at 50+ i worried me about injury.
Shot up my bp as well.
20mg ED
Test at 250/week no e2 issues

Increased BP seems to be across the board with this one. Your totals were 250Test and 140Ment? You had no issues with e2 were you running an AI? From what ive gathered its tricky to control the methyl estradiol with an AI, partly due to it being less effective but also because the ultrasensitive e2 tests dont measure the 7amethylestradiol accurately

 

[19NorFan]

Ill also be starting another run with yk11 as its closing on my 4 week off time of it. So you think a lower test base is optimal? Probably better in my opinion too. I could drop the 125mg prop within the next week and lower my cyp from 600 to 300mg. My Totals then would be 300 Test 400 Primo 300 NPP... my idea would be to add 105MG Ment(15mg day) just to test the waters. And adjust from there. I aromatize at a low rate so I dont believe estrogen will a major issue(hopefully)

Just my observation - all 19nors amplify aromatase to some degree. Some more than others. So if you throw in a big test base, not only are you fighting to keep E2 down just due to the high test base, you're fighting an amplified version.

This was very early on, around the time I first used nandrolone. IIRC it was 10mg/day of trestolone on top of 300mg test. Within the first week or so, I was noticeably hypertensive and dropped it immediately. Like laying down, I just a felt a pressure that made it feel harder to breathe. Some of this is just due to how water retentive the compound is and the other part of it is the estrogen.

If you're gonna use it, IMO it should be during a clean eating period and E2 definitely has to be controlled.

 

[Meetketchup]

The best environment for MENT/Trest is when you are on the leaner side. Seems guys respond much better with lower bodyfat, insulin sensitivity and if you are lean, usually a much cleaner diet which really makes a difference with this compound. Don't need a lot as you get a big bang for your buck. Guys who are sensitive to E2 and/or prolactin should find a better option. Also lift with good form on the stuff as your strength will quickly out do your connective tissue. Increase in small dosages.

Every compound has it's time and place, but most guys should probably just roll with Deca or NPP.

 

[Hablooblah]

Appreciate the insight guys. I'll wait until im a few weeks into my cut to implement it. When test and total androgen load is lower and im more sensitive to changes. Im extremely insulin sensitive currently even at the end of this growth phase and on a higher gh amount. But i think my current regimen has too much testosterone, and with npp adding another 19nor with high aromatization is probably a bad idea. So cut it is. Thanks men!

 

[Omoplata]

Definitely best for leaner physiques otherwise water buffalo.

 

[chadmack]

Increased BP seems to be across the board with this one. Your totals were 250Test and 140Ment? You had no issues with e2 were you running an AI? From what ive gathered its tricky to control the methyl estradiol with an AI, partly due to it being less effective but also because the ultrasensitive e2 tests dont measure the 7amethylestradiol accurately

I also ran npp at 250/week & proviron at 50/day.
I never take an actual ai, dht seems to keep my e2 from getting to high.
I do like my e2 high tho 70 or so, once it gets in the 100's i get painful cystic acne, no good

 

[chadmack]

The best environment for MENT/Trest is when you are on the leaner side. Seems guys respond much better with lower bodyfat, insulin sensitivity and if you are lean, usually a much cleaner diet which really makes a difference with this compound. Don't need a lot as you get a big bang for your buck. Guys who are sensitive to E2 and/or prolactin should find a better option. Also lift with good form on the stuff as your strength will quickly out do your connective tissue. Increase in small dosages.

Every compound has it's time and place, but most guys should probably just roll with Deca or NPP.

Yes at 50+ the risk of injury with the strength gains i got on 20mg ed had me concerned & when bp started to raise i dropped it.
Still have a few vial from GC i would like to try at 10g ed but i have been having shoulder issue for a while so i may have already out aged the compound.
Have to stick to my standard testE, npp, mastE