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Looking for a stack for gains

SB Labs
Presently on Test Cyp 150mg every 5 days, that's it. No real gains on the scale, lost my gut, decent size gains for the first 6 months of cycling this. Hit a wall or plateau for last couple months, that's why I'm picking everyone's brain. Just ordered more Test Cyp so would like to stack something with what I already received to get past plateau.
Deca is what you want imo and it's time to ramp up the calories and try to get more adequate rest. That'll help you get over the plateau that gets all of us at times. Get them calories and protein up a little more and work on getting better quality sleep will help increase your training volume especially with the Test and Deca in the mix.
 
With deca u will wait longer for results to start happening, npp is noticeable by the second week, deca starts working about a month in.u will get better joint support with deca too but side effects will linger longer after u stop using it . For me npp is the nandralone of choice but they are both highly anabolic
 
Doesn’t matter what you use really. Especially if you haven’t used certain compounds before. You want to get a little bigger then eat and train for that specifically. iMO it’s the diet and training that determine most of what and how you gain. Unfortunately I know a little about BJJ/Judo/boxing and AAS being used together when your totally broke. I’ve done some crazy weird cycle combos and they all seem to yield good results for whatever my goals were at that time.

That being said just be aware that cramping and your gas tank are what you have to watch out for rolling or sparring or whatever your doing if you gain size. Tren is a good example. Great gains with low calories but you absolutely will give up about 1/4 of your cardio.

IMO for whatever that’s worth would be to up the test and I also agree with the NPP. Especially since you’re 60. No offense but the NPP might make you feel a little more flexible.

Just my opinions though OP. Good to see more BJJ/Judo guys here. I don’t mind all the gay bodybuilders here but it’s still nice to get a little variety. 😂😂😂😂😂

Oh btw. Choose your supplier wisely if you decide to go with DHB. It’s hard to grapple with lumps and pip in your ass and legs. Been there and tried it. Not cool.
 
Doesn’t matter what you use really. Especially if you haven’t used certain compounds before. You want to get a little bigger then eat and train for that specifically. iMO it’s the diet and training that determine most of what and how you gain. Unfortunately I know a little about BJJ/Judo/boxing and AAS being used together when your totally broke. I’ve done some crazy weird cycle combos and they all seem to yield good results for whatever my goals were at that time.

That being said just be aware that cramping and your gas tank are what you have to watch out for rolling or sparring or whatever your doing if you gain size. Tren is a good example. Great gains with low calories but you absolutely will give up about 1/4 of your cardio.

IMO for whatever that’s worth would be to up the test and I also agree with the NPP. Especially since you’re 60. No offense but the NPP might make you feel a little more flexible.

Just my opinions though OP. Good to see more BJJ/Judo guys here. I don’t mind all the gay bodybuilders here but it’s still nice to get a little variety. 😂😂😂😂😂

Oh btw. Choose your supplier wisely if you decide to go with DHB. It’s hard to grapple with lumps and pip in your ass and legs. Been there and tried it. Not cool.
I can vouch for Azteca, I am sensitive to bb and additives and Azteca dhb feels like sterile mct oil, no exaggeration , I was doubting it was even legit the first few injections but it came on so strong by the second week that there was no doubt in my mind, i immediately ordered more from them. Anyone on the fence about trying dhb should give them a shot, I can’t even remember what the last limbs I injected because they leave no pain or feeling after injecting , I can basically shoot the same delt or quad over and over again
 
Doesn’t matter what you use really. Especially if you haven’t used certain compounds before. You want to get a little bigger then eat and train for that specifically. iMO it’s the diet and training that determine most of what and how you gain. Unfortunately I know a little about BJJ/Judo/boxing and AAS being used together when your totally broke. I’ve done some crazy weird cycle combos and they all seem to yield good results for whatever my goals were at that time.

That being said just be aware that cramping and your gas tank are what you have to watch out for rolling or sparring or whatever your doing if you gain size. Tren is a good example. Great gains with low calories but you absolutely will give up about 1/4 of your cardio.

IMO for whatever that’s worth would be to up the test and I also agree with the NPP. Especially since you’re 60. No offense but the NPP might make you feel a little more flexible.

Just my opinions though OP. Good to see more BJJ/Judo guys here. I don’t mind all the gay bodybuilders here but it’s still nice to get a little variety. 😂😂😂😂😂

Oh btw. Choose your supplier wisely if you decide to go with DHB. It’s hard to grapple with lumps and pip in your ass and legs. Been there and tried it. Not cool.
I've been looking at SB Labs, thoughts?
 
Thank you all for your advice/input, you guys are awesome. I think I have a good plan in place. Last question, presently using SB Labs, other suggestions?
 
Just about all of the vendors on here are legit, I’ve used about 5 of them , but I won’t go anywhere else for dhb specifically. It’s not even worth the risk when Aztecas is a pleasure to pin. Unless it changes in the future I’m sticking to the one I know is painless.For npp and test I wouldn’t worry, any company could brew them without pip
 
SB Labs
Just about all of the vendors on here are legit, I’ve used about 5 of them , but I won’t go anywhere else for dhb specifically. It’s not even worth the risk when Aztecas is a pleasure to pin. Unless it changes in the future I’m sticking to the one I know is painless.For npp and test I wouldn’t worry, any company could brew them without pip
Thanks, man.
I was just looking at their website.
 
Test and npp is awesome , test and dhb is awesome too, all three would be insane…
If you don’t want to inject a lot of volume, I say DHB is the way to go, NPP used to be my favorite anabolic, but after trying DHB it edges it out, it gives me the size of NPP, but a lot more vascularity and leanness , and the shit I have has zero pip, 150 mg of dhb blows me up like 300mg of npp and the strength gains are retarded. You can’t go wrong with either though

I've done all 3..it was awesome..DHB is way underrated..Just some have kidney issues..
Been wanting to do another Test/NPP/DHB run..
Finding a DHB without too much PIP..
Hell, I just cut it with something else..
Z
 
I've done all 3..it was awesome..DHB is way underrated..Just some have kidney issues..
Been wanting to do another Test/NPP/DHB run..
Finding a DHB without too much PIP..
Hell, I just cut it with something else..
Z
I have a bunch of dhb and npp stocked up, before the year is over I will run them together in a proper blast , I’m just trt plusing right now for another couple months but this will be my next cycle forsure
 
From my research on DHB..
AND..
Correct me if I'm Wrong..
More Test than DHB..Bulk
More DHB than Test..Cutting
Sound about right..??
Z
 
Winny with Var..I hear is Great..
But..I never recommend a combo, if the person hasn't tried at least one compound in the combo..
Because..if something starts to go sideways..how would you know..which compound it is..
Nothing is worse than stopping a cycle, due to unwanted sides..that you have no idea what's causing them..

I ran Drol a few yrs ago in my cycle..things started going south with sides..I was 100% it was the Drol..so, I dropped it and continued my Run..
If I didn't know how Dbol effected me..I'd be guessing..Guessing is not what you want to be doing..Ever..!!

Oral combos work pretty damn good..All of the benefits, minus the drawbacks..
Dbol and Drol..is amazing..
PSL had some..not sure if it will return..

Anyway..food for thought..
Z
 
Winny with Var..I hear is Great..
But..I never recommend a combo, if the person hasn't tried at least one compound in the combo..
Because..if something starts to go sideways..how would you know..which compound it is..
Nothing is worse than stopping a cycle, due to unwanted sides..that you have no idea what's causing them..

I ran Drol a few yrs ago in my cycle..things started going south with sides..I was 100% it was the Drol..so, I dropped it and continued my Run..
If I didn't know how Dbol effected me..I'd be guessing..Guessing is not what you want to be doing..Ever..!!

Oral combos work pretty damn good..All of the benefits, minus the drawbacks..
Dbol and Drol..is amazing..
PSL had some..not sure if it will return..

Anyway..food for thought..
Z
What is Drol?
 
SB Labs
Thanks, man.
I was just looking at their website.
Be careful friend, Azteca doesn’t have a website. There’s scammers impersonating them. Go to their sponsors section, look for a rep, then send them a pm and request a list. They will email you a list.

SB Labs doesn’t have a website either. So be careful. Any questions just ask.
 
Interested in a mild stack for gains, not anything crazy. I presently do Test C, .6cc every 5 days of Test Cyp 250. Would like to stack with that as I get great results, would just like a bump to get a little more size. I intake 250mg of protein between lean meats, fish and protein drinks. Yes, I do quite a bit of cardio in the form of Jiu-Jitsu. I lift 5X a week and cycle my training, 6 weeks heavy low rep, 6 weeks light high rep.
Appreciate any input, please spell out acronyms as I don't know all the lingo.
BAC water and BPC157 and maybe creatine will give u the mild gains u want
 
BPC157 does nothing for muscle growth. It’s a body protective compound for healing.
 
Well you have some solid options and ones I would use also. But where is the HGH? I would most definitely have that in my HRT at your age.
After doing some research on HGH, I like this route. For what my goals are, I’ve been told 2iu a day at night. But, I’m seeing it sold in 100iu vials. Which would be 50 days. Everything thing I’ve been able to find as far as lifespan once mixed says 21-28 days. Thoughts?
 
After doing some research on HGH, I like this route. For what my goals are, I’ve been told 2iu a day at night. But, I’m seeing it sold in 100iu vials. Which would be 50 days. Everything thing I’ve been able to find as far as lifespan once mixed says 21-28 days. Thoughts?

Its most typically sold as ten vials of 10iu each
 
So, 150 DHB twice a week or 150 total a week but at 75 per injection?
I”m sure someone means 150 total per week. DHB is pretty powerful, I would go more conservative to start in the range of 80-100mg per week. Then see how you are tolerating it. You can go up later with it. Divide it twice a week shots of 40 and 40.
 
DHB is a Stout compound and a really good one.
I love it, it’s a great compound milligram for milligram
I”m sure someone means 150 total per week. DHB is pretty powerful, I would go more conservative to start in the range of 80-100mg per week. Then see how you are tolerating it. You can go up later with it. Divide it twice a week shots of 40 and 40.
I was honestly expecting more side effects but I’ve had zero sides with dhb, not even pip, I had more side effects from primo. I agree start at 100 mg a week for a couple weeks just to test the waters, I’m at 150 now and the pumps are amazing,good vascularity too
 

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