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Jumping back on gear after 3 weeks cruise?

Lustyscripps said:
General rule of thumb- ample amount of time for your organs to recover from blasting AAS.
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thebiggestdumbass said:
Wouldn’t bloodwork determine if your organs need to recovery?
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What’s being missed here, or not understood, is homeostasis. That is your body’s own natural cycle to reach normalcy. In simple terms, you start taking 500mg of testosterone and grow for 8 weeks (time to get to homeostasis) and you plateau. Your body is used to this now. Stop taking 500mg testosterone and in 8 weeks your body is now used to this. It’s about stimulating change and if you don’t allow time to reach “normal” you are not primed for change again.
 
Oakley6575 said:
So you are insinuating that high ranking pros go on a 20 week prep, then take 20 weeks off on trt, and then they go into an off season.....when? Because that only leaves 12 weeks left in the year. And if they blast for 12 weeks to grow, then by this idiots advice, they have to take 12 weeks off of gear.. The math just doesn't add up.
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They increase dose to offset plateau therefore they never reach homeostasis and continue to grow.

You’re the idiot.
 
tommygunz said:
What’s being missed here, or not understood, is homeostasis. That is your body’s own natural cycle to reach normalcy. In simple terms, you start taking 500mg of testosterone and grow for 8 weeks (time to get to homeostasis) and you plateau. Your body is used to this now. Stop taking 500mg testosterone and in 8 weeks your body is now used to this. It’s about stimulating change and if you don’t allow time to reach “normal” you are not primed for change again.
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What your saying makes but seems too black and white

If it was that black and white wouldn’t we stop seeing any benefit from a cycle at the 8 week mark?
 
thebiggestdumbass said:
What your saying makes but seems too black and white

If it was that black and white wouldn’t we stop seeing any benefit from a cycle at the 8 week mark?
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It isn’t black and white to the day but it’s very close for most people. Any benefit isn’t the same as growth. Example: You cycle 500mg test for your first time. You put on 10-20lbs of muscle if you’re doing it right. 8 weeks later you pct and rest, while you hope to keep your gains, inevitably you only hang on to 10lbs of muscle. Now do the same 500mg dose, for the same time, gain the same and at 8 weeks you don’t stop. You will stay the same, no loss and no more gains. This is what keeps us (I’m guilty too) using anabolics without a health period. Pros? Ever wonder why some fall over dead at 30?
 
Biggest question for me, since we keep talking about pros, is why are you willing to put your body through the same stress as someone that makes a for good living doing it? Doing what the pros do seems like all fun and games until you're in your 40s and 50s and still have to work a regular job when you body is run down from gear abuse. Is it really "optimal" for all these glorified gym rats to be on 80% of the year?

No. Put me in the conservative camp and take more time off
 
Glycomann said:
Are you one of those guys that believes that high ranking pros don't take health phases of HRT ranges of Test and GH?
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zwhit said:
Biggest question for me, since we keep talking about pros, is why are you willing to put your body through the same stress as someone that makes a for good living doing it? Doing what the pros do seems like all fun and games until you're in your 40s and 50s and still have to work a regular job when you body is run down from gear abuse. Is it really "optimal" for all these glorified gym rats to be on 80% of the year?

No. Put me in the conservative camp and take more time off
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I think all the pro talk came from the comment above earlier in the thread. I agree with you. Everyone has different goals. None of us are going to be pros. And if you aren't the guy that dedicates his diet, time, etc on bodybuilding, there is zero reason you wouldn't take breaks between blasts. Even then, why not just run trt if you need it. Why even blast at all. Everyone has different goals, and different risk tolerance for themselves.
 

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