Jumping back on gear after 3 weeks cruise?

[foodovergear]

Hello To everybody, this is my first thread here, and i needed some advice of you guys, because i was on a long cycle Test E 500, NPP 300 and some orals at the beginning and at the end (2nd cycle - 22 weeks, first cycle was 500 test e, adrol 4 weeks kickstart). For the research i made, you can blast as much as your bloods are fine, so i was interested to ask here if i can jump on higher dosages again, but i wanted to share here my Blood tests, so you, the more experienced users can tell me if its fine based on them to hop again, or wait another few weeks before.
I’ll appreciate all the info i can get. thanks!
photos of the bloods:
edit: the second two photos are during the end of the cycle, before i clear, the first two are 3 weeks later, also the bloods for test, estro, shbg is during these 3 weeks when i was cruising on 200mg/week. im 24 years old. Also i see my shbg is low, what can j do to increase a bit these levels?

 

[Sector.]

Can’t see any pictures of the bloodwork

 

[foodovergear]

Can’t see any pictures of the bloodwork

sorry, bug happened.

 

[Sector.]

sorry, bug happened.

Hmm yeah idk how to read that language. Ill
Let someone else take a stab at it

 

[foodovergear]

Hmm yeah idk how to read that language. Ill
Let someone else take a stab at it

Some of them are translated on both english, and the other language - Bulgarian

 

[Glycomann]

What is your cruise?
What was your cycle?

 

[JB4976]

Time on equals Time off

 

[BBruce]

How important is to jump back into a cycle? If it’s not for a show/competition or something that’s money related I would wait another 8-9 weeks to let your body recover from the abuse. If you have a good training and diet plan during the “OFF” months you should be able to keep most of what you gained.

 

[foodovergear]

What is your cruise?
What was your cycle?

cruise: 200mg test cyp/w
cycle: 22 wks test e 500/w, npp 300/w, 1-4 adrol 100mg/day, 10-15 adrol 50mg/day
20-22 sdrol 10mg/day started, second week 20mg/day and the last 3 days upped to 30mg.
was taking liv52 with the sdrol.
other supplements were omega 3, vitamin complex, vitamin e, electrolytes, magnesium etc.

 

[Glycomann]

Personally, I would cruise for at least 8 weeks. You'll respond better once you go back on and you will avoid being on the toxic side 1/2 way into your next cycle. Health periods are necessary.

 

[foodovergear]

Thanks for the advices! Ill do what you guys told me and gonna wait another 4-5 weeks to let my body rest. From the first and the last bloods i can see for 3 weeks my good cholesterol upped from 0,54 to 1,04 and my bad cholesterol went from 3,04 to 2,01, asat and alat going back to normal aswell, so the recovering goes well. im a bit over the high end of test on 200mg/w, and the bloods still get better with the period, so maybe i could make some more gains during this period, and jump back then fully recovered.

 

[JB4976]

Thanks for the advices! Ill do what you guys told me and gonna wait another 4-5 weeks to let my body rest. From the first and the last bloods i can see for 3 weeks my good cholesterol upped from 0,54 to 1,04 and my bad cholesterol went from 3,04 to 2,01, asat and alat going back to normal aswell, so the recovering goes well. im a bit over the high end of test on 200mg/w, and the bloods still get better with the period, so maybe i could make some more gains during this period, and jump back then fully recovered.

You can absolutely maintain what you have gained with the consistency in the diet, training and cruising. Honestly, anything more than that is just extra positives. Regular humans can't maintain like we do and if you lose actual muscle tissue it's because you got lazy somewhere along the way.

 

[foodovergear]

You can absolutely maintain what you have gained with the consistency in the diet, training and cruising. Honestly, anything more than that is just extra positives. Regular humans can't maintain like we do and if you lose actual muscle tissue it's because you got lazy somewhere along the way.

ive been prescribed methylprednisolon (corticosteroid) for 2 weeks by doc for my atopic dermatitis, ive gained fat very fast and lost some muscle or maybe just definition, but lot of fat gain for sure. my appetite was uncontrollable and i lost kind of motivation, but it is what it is. we keep pushing.

 

[JB4976]

ive been prescribed methylprednisolon (corticosteroid) for 2 weeks by doc for my atopic dermatitis, ive gained fat very fast and lost some muscle or maybe just definition, but lot of fat gain for sure. my appetite was uncontrollable and i lost kind of motivation, but it is what it is. we keep pushing.

That's all you can do brother, keep pushing and when shit gets hard and the motivation isn't there, you fuckin push harder and get back to where you want to be and where you know you can be. It's not the end of the world and it's okay to live and get off track at times. That's fuckin life man.

 

[thebiggestdumbass]

Time on equals Time off

Why do you say this?

 

[Lustyscripps]

Why do you say this?

General rule of thumb- ample amount of time for your organs to recover from blasting AAS.

 

[thebiggestdumbass]

General rule of thumb- ample amount of time for your organs to recover from blasting AAS.

Wouldn’t bloodwork determine if your organs need to recovery?

 

[JB4976]

Why do you say this?

Because the body needs to heal and have time to recover properly. Just because blood work comes back somewhat fine it doesn't mean things will not and cannot go to shit real quick after banging the sauce and wreaking havoc on the organs. The type of anabolics one uses is definitely key especially for the harsher ones. The milder anabolics one can get away with it but with Tren, Halotestin etc one needs ample time and then some especially if the dosages were high. And yeah, everyone is different and responds differently and just because you may or may not be able to do doesn't mean the next guy can. The fact that you even asking that shows that right now you think you are invincible and taking the proper time off isn't necessary but anabolics aren't anything to take lightly and they will light your ass up in a very bad way.

 

[thebiggestdumbass]

Because the body needs to heal and have time to recover properly. Just because blood work comes back somewhat fine it doesn't mean things will not and cannot go to shit real quick after banging the sauce and wreaking havoc on the organs. The type of anabolics one uses is definitely key especially for the harsher ones. The milder anabolics one can get away with it but with Tren, Halotestin etc one needs ample time and then some especially if the dosages were high. And yeah, everyone is different and responds differently and just because you may or may not be able to do doesn't mean the next guy can. The fact that you even asking that shows that right now you think you are invincible and taking the proper time off isn't necessary but anabolics aren't anything to take lightly and they will light your ass up in a very bad way.

lol you seem very up tight man

Do I think I’m invincible? Fuck no. Do I think smart AAS usage is less harmful than drinking every weekend? Yes

I’ve spoken with my coach extensively about this topic and the “time on time off” is a great way to make minimal progress on gear for no reason.

Outside of a prep. Normal dosages of 500-1500mg of gear(excluding the toxic things like you mentioned) shouldn’t require 16 weeks off a cycle, if, you’re eating clean, doing cardio and training hard. If that’s fucking up your bloodwork or organs you have other issues to address

 

[JB4976]

lol you seem very up tight man

Do I think I’m invincible? Fuck no. Do I think smart AAS usage is less harmful than drinking every weekend? I’ve spoken with my coach extensively about this topic and the “time on time off” is a great way to make minimal progress on gear

Outside of a prep. Normal dosages of 500-1500mg of gear(excluding the toxic things like you mentioned) shouldn’t require 16 weeks off a cycle, if, you’re eating clean, doing cardio and training hard. If that’s fucking up your bloodwork or organs you have other issues to address

Not upright bud, just not arguing with your ass on here about you or your coaches opinion. I see you on here acting like a dick in everything you post on these threads and I don't mess with people like you or your kind if I don't have to. Either way, you do whatever it is you do and give whatever advice your coach tells you to and I'll give advice that's not wreckless or unhealthy.

 

[thebiggestdumbass]

Not upright bud, just not arguing with your ass on here about you or your coaches opinion. I see you on here acting like a dick in everything you post on these threads and I don't mess with people like you or your kind if I don't have to. Either way, you do whatever it is you do and give whatever advice your coach tells you to and I'll give advice that's not wreckless or unhealthy.

Lmao post your physique and bloodwork fella.

You made a stupid “one size fits all” comment and i wanted to see your rationale behind it. Maybe I have the wrong thought but it seems you just regurgitate what Reddit says

“Aahhh your organs need a break even though your bloodwork is in the green” and you should wear a condom 24/7

 

[JB4976]

Lmao post your physique and bloodwork fella.

You made a stupid “one size fits all” comment and i wanted to see your rationale behind it. Maybe I have the wrong thought but it seems you just regurgitate what Reddit says

“Aahhh your organs need a break even though your bloodwork is in the green” and you should wear a condom 24/7

Your handle says it all and what is it with you new clowns and your reddit regurgitation saying lol. I've been in this game longer than you probably been alive and just by the things you say shows you're still a very insecure immature person. I can promise you that you aren't on my level and never could be because you are more than likely Genetic Junk mentally and physically.

 

[Oakley6575]

Your handle says it all and what is it with you new clowns and your reddit regurgitation saying lol. I've been in this game longer than you probably been alive and just by the things you say shows you're still a very insecure immature person. I can promise you that you aren't on my level and never could be because you are more than likely Genetic Junk mentally and physically.

Oh well then that explains it. That's what they said to you in the early 80's so that is obviously correct until the end of time. Got it.

 

[thebiggestdumbass]

Your handle says it all and what is it with you new clowns and your reddit regurgitation saying lol. I've been in this game longer than you probably been alive and just by the things you say shows you're still a very insecure immature person. I can promise you that you aren't on my level and never could be because you are more than likely Genetic Junk mentally and physically.

You just joined August 9th new guy.

Idk man you’re the dumbass spouting off about “time on equals time off” even though health markers are fine.

I get it you’ve been in the gym for 20+ years and still look like shit man. I wouldn’t want to post my physique either if that was the case.

 

[JB4976]

Oh well then that explains it. That's what they said to you in the early 80's so that is obviously correct until the end of time. Got it.

Not at all, that's the way you comprehended it, and it wasn't the 80s it was the late 90s. The last real generation this world will ever know of. Is that dumbass your boyfriend and here you come to the rescue lol or are you the coach of all knowledge?

 

[Glycomann]

lol you seem very up tight man

Do I think I’m invincible? Fuck no. Do I think smart AAS usage is less harmful than drinking every weekend? Yes

I’ve spoken with my coach extensively about this topic and the “time on time off” is a great way to make minimal progress on gear for no reason.

Outside of a prep. Normal dosages of 500-1500mg of gear(excluding the toxic things like you mentioned) shouldn’t require 16 weeks off a cycle, if, you’re eating clean, doing cardio and training hard. If that’s fucking up your bloodwork or organs you have other issues to address

Are you one of those guys that believes that high ranking pros don't take health phases of HRT ranges of Test and GH? Pros aside most of the guys on this board that have been at it for more than a few years take health phases for obvious reasons.

 

[JB4976]

You just joined August 9th new guy.

Idk man you’re the dumbass spouting off about “time on equals time off” even though health markers are fine.

I get it you’ve been in the gym for 20+ years and still look like shit man. I wouldn’t want to post my physique either if that was the case.

Try to contain that insecurity, you wreak of weakness and talking shit to someone you don't know shows just how big of a dumbass you really are. Guess we'll just call you the Adonis from now on. How many shows have you won? How much money did you make this year since you made pro?

 

[thebiggestdumbass]

Are you one of those guys that believes that high ranking pros don't take health phases of HRT ranges of Test and GH? Pros aside most of the guys on this board that have been at it for more than a few years take health phases for obvious reasons.

Not at all man I’m a huge fan of health phases. Our bodies aren’t meant to operate under the stress gear places us under.

But to say “time on equals time off” is just bad advice. If your 8 weeks into a health phase after running 500 test and 300 mast, I’d guess most people feel fantastic and their bloodwork is looking better (if it was even bad) than it was after the blast. What are you going to do with the other 8 weeks, keep maintaining and not cutting/growing?

Obviously I think one should do whatever they’re comfortable with.

 

[Oakley6575]

Are you one of those guys that believes that high ranking pros don't take health phases of HRT ranges of Test and GH? Pros aside most of the guys on this board that have been at it for more than a few years take health phases for obvious reasons.

So you are insinuating that high ranking pros go on a 20 week prep, then take 20 weeks off on trt, and then they go into an off season.....when? Because that only leaves 12 weeks left in the year. And if they blast for 12 weeks to grow, then by this idiots advice, they have to take 12 weeks off of gear.. The math just doesn't add up.

 

[JB4976]

You just joined August 9th new guy.

Idk man you’re the dumbass spouting off about “time on equals time off” even though health markers are fine.

I get it you’ve been in the gym for 20+ years and still look like shit man. I wouldn’t want to post my physique either if that was the case.

New guy I've seen so many dumbasses like yourself come and go like dust in the wind on these forums and when it comes to this lifestyle. You dumb fucks don't last long.