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Iran war please no religious opinions

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Deal reached, Hormuz is open, thanks to Pakistan, they were key in communications so once again pakis pulled thru for us

Yeah right. It’s Sunday. Every Sunday they say “deal reached” just in time for market open, then Friday night it’s always “oh we’re gonna nuke the fuck out of them”.

Can’t believe a word they say
 
its over for now, should we get the uranium and see who provided it?
 
My 2 cents... I stopped watching news or listening to it on the radio. Fox saying the same thing, CNN, PMSMBC, ABC, CBS all saying the same thing. Trump lives in their heads rent free. This TDS seems to be a real thing. Anyway...
I can say I voted for him. I couldn't deal with the cackler and more behind the scenes masters pulling strings of these puppets.
Seems Trump is no better. Also realize, there are people at the table who are making the decisions, not Trump. He just seems to do what they say.
For example, the Israel thing. I am an ex-biblical scholar. There is not biblical evidence to keep doing what Israel wants. Simply, there is a biblical Israel, and then there's the current government of Israel. Two different things. Biblical Israel has nothing to do with todays Israel. Politician's who keep saying we must protect them because its a biblical mandate, need to stay in their lane, they don't know what they are talking about. The US Gov needs to cut ties with Israel, period!

We get into this thing with Iran and we blow some things up but we are giving them like 40% of what we could. Then we stop... What is that about? Is it no wonder they are not afraid of the USA? We go soft on them. We didn't on Iraq or Afganistan or Japan. If we are going to start it, then go in and put the boot to their neck and choke them out! My guess, that approach would get a different response from Iran. But, American gov has lost their edge. I get it we shouldn't even be over there, its all for Israel.

But this soft stance to begin a war and go soft was the wrong approach. Either don't do it at all or do it right the first time. Guys, this is not a deal they made with Trump. Like I said, I voted for Trump, but he looks like a fool with this "deal"/agreement. Which they will not abide by. Then they get 300 billion dollars? Seems to me, they got it good.

Meanwhile, over here in the USA, we have been getting screwed at the fuel pumps. Food, clothing, anything that needs to be transported has all gone up. Because diesel is more expensive than regular gas, even though it's not refined. So we are getting screwed over here. Trump even said we will give them help to rebuild.
What? We destroy their country and now we will help them rebuild it? Shaking my head over here! I agree they can't have nuclear weapons but we sure seem determined to let that be a problem in the future by the way we are determined to support them.

I even heard Trump saying they have to have missiles to defend themselves so he's ok with them having those and restocking. Didn't Obama give them pellets of US Cash money to which we got nothing in return.

I'll never forget one of my post grad professors would always say, "If there's one thing we can learn from the past, is that we don't learn from the past. We make the same mistakes." That applies here.

At the end of the day, as many have said already, best to just do good at your job. Take care of your family, take care of your health, enjoy life as best as you can. The American Gov is just a dumpster fire, left, right, middle, its no good. They have no interest in Americans and Yes: your vote doesn't matter, it just doesn't. Try to find peace in your world, minimize stressors, control your center of influence.

Some things we just can't control, this is one. All we can literally do is shake our heads at the stupid decisions made by our government. So live life, be faithful to God, do good to your health, and be a great husband, father, son, and associate at work. Keep grabbing the Iron and lift it up.
 
Side note:

Some people take politics as a religion. You speak bad about Biden and to hell with you. You speak good about Trump and to hell with you and visa versa. It's just politics and its a dirty nasty crooked game. Those who find this as a religion have let this rot their brain.
My father in law is a crazy trump supporter and will not tolerate any disrespect to Trump. One of my wife's friends cut off my wife because my wife said she voted for trump. When Trump won the election, that so called friend, went into hiding. She text my wife 3 weeks later and said the world is ending and she can't put herself with unlike minded people. No joke...

She told my wife that she wished Trump would die. She said how could there be 3 or 4 attempts to assassinate him and each one of them failed? This same woman is against racism, she believes in black lives matter, my body my choice, PRIDE rights, love and peace to all people, support illegals with US Tax dollars.

But when you mention Trump, literally the devil comes out. All that BS she stands for goes right out the window. My wife asked her, how can you hate someone you have never met? How can you want someone to die, who is a husband, a father and a grand father and his kids seem to love him? You have never met him, you don't know him persoally. But you want him dead?

I hope we all can stay balanced. One of the great things about America is that we can have freedom to vote, to speak, and to believe. We may not all agree but to not to disagree to the point of violence and killing or wishing death to anyone. I didn't like Biden at all. But I saw the bigger picture. He didn't know what he was doing. Poor guy should be with his legs propped up, drinking iced tea at his place in Martha's vineyard. Retired. HE was a puppet. So while I didn't like what was going on, I didn't wish the man death. It came out later that he had mini strokes, I mean, yeah... The man is too old mentally and that job is too much. Age effects us all differently and he just couldn't do it.

Stay balanced everyone.
 
My 2 cents... I stopped watching news or listening to it on the radio. Fox saying the same thing, CNN, PMSMBC, ABC, CBS all saying the same thing. Trump lives in their heads rent free. This TDS seems to be a real thing. Anyway...
I can say I voted for him. I couldn't deal with the cackler and more behind the scenes masters pulling strings of these puppets.
Seems Trump is no better. Also realize, there are people at the table who are making the decisions, not Trump. He just seems to do what they say.
For example, the Israel thing. I am an ex-biblical scholar. There is not biblical evidence to keep doing what Israel wants. Simply, there is a biblical Israel, and then there's the current government of Israel. Two different things. Biblical Israel has nothing to do with todays Israel. Politician's who keep saying we must protect them because its a biblical mandate, need to stay in their lane, they don't know what they are talking about. The US Gov needs to cut ties with Israel, period!

We get into this thing with Iran and we blow some things up but we are giving them like 40% of what we could. Then we stop... What is that about? Is it no wonder they are not afraid of the USA? We go soft on them. We didn't on Iraq or Afganistan or Japan. If we are going to start it, then go in and put the boot to their neck and choke them out! My guess, that approach would get a different response from Iran. But, American gov has lost their edge. I get it we shouldn't even be over there, its all for Israel.

But this soft stance to begin a war and go soft was the wrong approach. Either don't do it at all or do it right the first time. Guys, this is not a deal they made with Trump. Like I said, I voted for Trump, but he looks like a fool with this "deal"/agreement. Which they will not abide by. Then they get 300 billion dollars? Seems to me, they got it good.

Meanwhile, over here in the USA, we have been getting screwed at the fuel pumps. Food, clothing, anything that needs to be transported has all gone up. Because diesel is more expensive than regular gas, even though it's not refined. So we are getting screwed over here. Trump even said we will give them help to rebuild.
What? We destroy their country and now we will help them rebuild it? Shaking my head over here! I agree they can't have nuclear weapons but we sure seem determined to let that be a problem in the future by the way we are determined to support them.

I even heard Trump saying they have to have missiles to defend themselves so he's ok with them having those and restocking. Didn't Obama give them pellets of US Cash money to which we got nothing in return.

I'll never forget one of my post grad professors would always say, "If there's one thing we can learn from the past, is that we don't learn from the past. We make the same mistakes." That applies here.

At the end of the day, as many have said already, best to just do good at your job. Take care of your family, take care of your health, enjoy life as best as you can. The American Gov is just a dumpster fire, left, right, middle, its no good. They have no interest in Americans and Yes: your vote doesn't matter, it just doesn't. Try to find peace in your world, minimize stressors, control your center of influence.

Some things we just can't control, this is one. All we can literally do is shake our heads at the stupid decisions made by our government. So live life, be faithful to God, do good to your health, and be a great husband, father, son, and associate at work. Keep grabbing the Iron and lift it up.
By the way, I know you said no religous opinions so I hope everyone gives me some grace as I kept it short.
 
By the way, I know you said no religous opinions so I hope everyone gives me some grace as I kept it short.
I appreciate you trying, this war really has nothing to do with religion its all about oil and control. the venezuala government seized our fields around 2007, and started selling to our adversaries, we got those back and they took out the cartel boats to clear shipping lanes, Libya started trading crude directly to china so they had to go, Syria refused our pipeline they had to go, Russias wagner group tried to take the conoco oil fields in syria, from 40 delta operators we wiped them out in 8 hours. Iran supplies oil to russia and china, I think the urgency is once they get a nuke whos gonna be able to tell them what to do. we are now the largest oil distributer in the world. the 300 billion is to rebuild oil capacity but under our control which was always the plan. we took back panama. just saying.
 
I appreciate you trying, this war really has nothing to do with religion its all about oil and control. the venezuala government seized our fields around 2007, and started selling to our adversaries, we got those back and they took out the cartel boats to clear shipping lanes, Libya started trading crude directly to china so they had to go, Syria refused our pipeline they had to go, Russias wagner group tried to take the conoco oil fields in syria, from 40 delta operators we wiped them out in 8 hours. Iran supplies oil to russia and china, I think the urgency is once they get a nuke whos gonna be able to tell them what to do. we are now the largest oil distributer in the world. the 300 billion is to rebuild oil capacity but under our control which was always the plan. we took back panama. just saying.
CAn you explain how the venezuala government seized our fields around 2007? Where are these fields that were ours?
 
CAn you explain how the venezuala government seized our fields around 2007? Where are these fields that were ours?
conoco, phillips, exon, BP and several others held land leases to extract oil, they put up millions of dollars to drill for the oil, set up pump stations, pay employees to maintain it and transport it to refineries and split the money with Venezuela. Hugo Chavez led a coalition to change the laws and cancel those leases

 
conoco, phillips, exon, BP and several others held land leases to extract oil, they put up millions of dollars to drill for the oil, set up pump stations, pay employees to maintain it and transport it to refineries and split the money with Venezuela. Hugo Chavez led a coalition to change the laws and cancel those leases

I see. So same sort of thing that was done in Iran by the Anglo-Persian Oil Company with the British government and intelligence, bribed the Persian government and purchased the large oil field in Masjed Soleiman. The British government purchased 51% of the company in 1914. This is the paradigm. This is how it's done. this is how resources are commandeered adn controlled. Eventually a leader arises to take back what should have been sovereign assets.
 
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I see. So same sort of thing that was done in Iran by the Anglo-Persian Oil Company with the British government and intelligence, bribed the Persian government and purchased the large oil field in Masjed Soleiman. The British government purchased 51% of the company in 1914. This is the paradigm. This is how it's done. this is how resources are commandeered adn controlled. Eventually a leader arises to take back what should have been sovereign assets.
its a catch 22, these countries and governments dont have the means to do it themselves, they lease it out and the major oil companies do it for them and give them a cut. if you read confession of an economic hitman you will see it as we strongly encourage countries thru our military force to do whats right
 
its a catch 22, these countries and governments dont have the means to do it themselves, they lease it out and the major oil companies do it for them and give them a cut. if you read confession of an economic hitman you will see it as we strongly encourage countries thru our military force to do whats right
The world is just fucked brother. I read all that shit. Thanks for keeping it real.
 
CAn you explain how the venezuala government seized our fields around 2007? Where are these fields that were ours?

conoco, phillips, exon, BP and several others held land leases to extract oil, they put up millions of dollars to drill for the oil, set up pump stations, pay employees to maintain it and transport it to refineries and split the money with Venezuela. Hugo Chavez led a coalition to change the laws and cancel those leases

Chavez was a piece of shit (not unlike many of our own politicians). Not only did he nationalize the oil service but during his first term in 1999 he actively encouraged all those companies to keep investing in the oil infrastructure. Then in 2007 he basically took it all away including all the equipment, pumps, drills, etc. Then he gave his cronies high positions in the state owned company.

He did the same thing with Venzuela's gold industry in 2011. He kicked out Russia and started moving all of Venzuela's gold reserves to countries more favorable to him.
 
I’m not a war expert but you can’t truly win a war with a country like that by dropping bombs all day everyday. Just doesn’t work. Unless your willing to put troops on the ground and go house to house killing everyone then your just wasting time and a ton of our tax dollars for show.

@nm156 excellent post and I think you nailed how the regular folks of the US feels. Non of us give a fuck about Iran. We will support our government if the shit is 100% necessary and real. This shit going on now is kinda like “Really guy?” Cmon just make it all make sense. The fact that they can’t just makes it extremely hard to take. Again excellent post Sir.
 
I’m not a war expert but you can’t truly win a war with a country like that by dropping bombs all day everyday. Just doesn’t work. Unless your willing to put troops on the ground and go house to house killing everyone then your just wasting time and a ton of our tax dollars for show.

@nm156 excellent post and I think you nailed how the regular folks of the US feels. Non of us give a fuck about Iran. We will support our government if the shit is 100% necessary and real. This shit going on now is kinda like “Really guy?” Cmon just make it all make sense. The fact that they can’t just makes it extremely hard to take. Again excellent post Sir.
we are not at war with the people we are at war with the regime, they are trying to avoid destroying the countries infrastructure so the people will be able to return to a normal life easier and not spend billions rebuilding a country.
I dont know how anyone can think we are being weak, we destroyed their navy and air force, we own their skys, we dont need to rush in with troops and risk lives we are forcing them to agree to our deal.
Its like if you leg kicked a guy till he couldnt stand then you beat him so bad he can move his arms, now you got him in a choke hold but people say hes winning because he is not completely giving up.
 
we are not at war with the people we are at war with the regime, they are trying to avoid destroying the countries infrastructure so the people will be able to return to a normal life easier and not spend billions rebuilding a country.
I dont know how anyone can think we are being weak, we destroyed their navy and air force, we own their skys, we dont need to rush in with troops and risk lives we are forcing them to agree to our deal.
Its like if you leg kicked a guy till he couldnt stand then you beat him so bad he can move his arms, now you got him in a choke hold but people say hes winning because he is not completely giving up.
That’s all fine and good if you’re dealing with normal thinking human beings. These dudes ain’t that. Lol
 
Why is usa in this war ? Why is China russia not involved ?
Why can't israel stop bombing countries left and right?
Important questions

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Why is usa in this war ? Why is China russia not involved ?
Why can't israel stop bombing countries left and right?
Important questions

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Rockets have been launched into Israel your entire life by Muzzies. It isn't complicated. If radical Islam stopped attacking there would be peace. If Israel stopped there would be no Israel.
 
Why is usa in this war ? Why is China russia not involved ?
Why can't israel stop bombing countries left and right?
Important questions

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Oil, whoever controls oil controls the worlds economy, several countries were positioning to stop trading oil on the american dollar, after this war Im sure the dollar wil regain its position in the oil market

China tried they got embarrassed really quickly and realized they were outmatched, they step back for now, Im sure they are constantly watching for any weakness to exploit
 
Israel. Israel is the reason why all these wars and conflicts are happening. USA is bought by the Jews. They have dirt on all politicians either by Epstein or other ways. Only US president to have balls to stand up to Israel was shot in the head. USA is fighting on behalf of Israel.

The only real winner in this conflict is Israel. Cant believe some of you are so blind to this truth.
 

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