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Influencers Pushing Peptides

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Meetketchup

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It's getting out of hand. Vigorous Steve, Dean St Mart and even Nick Walker now to name a few. Pushing peptides such as Mot-C, SLU, now SS-31. No human studies in MOT-C or SLU and SS-31 just hit phase 2 which means starting human trials and it's for people with deficiency/disease lol NOT healthy bodybuilders.

Yeah, "well I felt it working, bla bla," ok.

Do some peptides work and have supporting evidence? That shit isn't cheap so do your due diligence in its efficacy in humans other than mice before buying.
 
Couldn't agree more. Its been very obvious the narrative push for financial gain. Pretty sure after a VS podcast Kurt had to redact a statement about his thoughts on a peptide so it didn't "hurt" anyone's business :ROFLMAO:
 
I think there’s merit to peptides to a degree for sure, but the way these guys are selling them is absolutely ridiculous. Steve is actually the fucking worst. Easily my least favorite person in the industry, and it takes a quite a lot for someone to make me care enough to actively dislike them. Beyond just the salesman schtick and clear blatant lying he does, the way he preys on those who are naive is just truly pathetic.
 
FearsomeCOR said:
I think there’s merit to peptides to a degree for sure, but the way these guys are selling them is absolutely ridiculous. Steve is actually the fucking worst. Easily my least favorite person in the industry, and it takes a quite a lot for someone to make me care enough to actively dislike them. Beyond just the salesman schtick and clear blatant lying he does, the way he preys on those who are naive is just truly pathetic.
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100% There are a few that will give results BPC being one of them.

My major bitch is using claims of exercise mimetic, enhancing endurance, increasing metabolism, etc that are only done in mice and assume it automatically translates into humans which we've seen a billion times it doesn't and if it does do what it says, is "insignificant" in results. That's what people don't take into account. Nobody knows the correct dosing to even guess atm. It's never as easy as multiplying the dosage from the weight of mice to that of humans.

I'm all about people taking whatever they want drug wise. It's just something I'm seeing more and more. People DM'ing me or seeking coaching and I ask what they are on and I get a huge list of peptides and have no idea what they are doing.
 
Meetketchup said:
100% There are a few that will give results BPC being one of them.

My major bitch is using claims of exercise mimetic, enhancing endurance, increasing metabolism, etc that are only done in mice and assume it automatically translates into humans which we've seen a billion times it doesn't and if it does do what it says, is "insignificant" in results. That's what people don't take into account. Nobody knows the correct dosing to even guess atm. It's never as easy as multiplying the dosage from the weight of mice to that of humans.

I'm all about people taking whatever they want drug wise. It's just something I'm seeing more and more. People DM'ing me or seeking coaching and I ask what they are on and I get a huge list of peptides.
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blows my mind people will inject this shit with zero strong evidence of it working.
i see people with the craziest fucking peptide cocktails. its like what are you doing?

these are the same people that wouldnt take the covid shot because they didnt trust whats in it, but at the same time will inject any fcking random chinese peptide willy nilly lol.

i dont get it, at least be consistent!
 
People that listen to any influencer and jump on their bandwagon on what they say deserve anything they get. I have never been able to understand why any one would think 1 persons opinion on something is the ultimate say. Mostly i find fads entertaining and let others be my guinea pigs.
 
ruffus said:
People that listen to any influencer and jump on their bandwagon on what they say deserve anything they get. I have never been able to understand why any one would think 1 persons opinion on something is the ultimate say. Mostly i find fads entertaining and let others be my guinea pigs.
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the sugar diet was the most retarded one lol that came and went fast lol
 
dcdogz said:
these are the same people that wouldnt take the covid shot because they didnt trust whats in it, but at the same time will inject any fcking random chinese peptide willy nilly lol.

i dont get it, at least be consistent!
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The big pharma has more incentive to harm and fleece you than a slightly athletic guy who runs a peptide shop out of his girlfriend's basement.
 
I used to follow some dude named King Tolo on IG. Seems like a cool guy but almost every video he put out had to do with peptides or SARMS and he rarely talked about training like he used to. When you make that your whole persona, then you really don’t have anywhere to go from that. I don’t know if he deleted his page or what, but I did notice that Swiss Chems disappeared from Instagram. Since he evolved his Instagram page into a platform for him to push products, he pretty much disappeared when the company did.
 
Hughmangoes said:
The big pharma has more incentive to harm and fleece you than a slightly athletic guy who runs a peptide shop out of his girlfriend's basement.
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Big Pharma is made up of people. People are greedy. Doesn't matter if it's the guy peddling Sarms on Instagram using a discount code or the CEO of Bayer trying to make money for his shareholders.

Big Pharma at least has given us all these great steroids and growth hormone. :)
 
I used to get asked at the gyms often about steroids and roughly the last year it has been mostly questions about peptides,when I ask why exactly they are considering peptides rather than steroids 100% of the time they mention some person online that talks about them and that peptides are safe and steroids are dangerous. The lack of doing any research nowdays for themselves kills me.
 
Meetketchup said:
Big Pharma is made up of people. People are greedy. Doesn't matter if it's the guy peddling Sarms on Instagram using a discount code or the CEO of Bayer trying to make money for his shareholders.

Big Pharma at least has given us all these great steroids and growth hormone. :)
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Growth Hormone is my favorite peptide.
 
It's pretty wild how much peptides have blown up.

HGH goat'd #1. GLPs help the rest of the ancillary peptides blow up and go off their anecdotal evidence vs true medical studies
 
WED said:
It's pretty wild how much peptides have blown up.

HGH goat'd #1. GLPs help the rest of the ancillary peptides blow up and go off their anecdotal evidence vs true medical studies
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I think people believe they are safer and they are easier to advertise/promote bc they aren’t demonized illegal gear. There’s literally a middle-aged housewife that I went to high school with who is promoting them on her Facebook page. Now try to imagine a middle-aged housewife on Facebook trying to promote Anavar.
 
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@rhe end of the day it’s HGH>peptides unless they’re free haha

I take that back, I think people will start to regret all these “fads” “trends” or whatever to lose weight, cut appetite all this nonsense wasn’t needed before and bodies have not changed just me guys doing new drugs

Test/HGH and you’re gold💯 imho
 
HFO4 said:
@rhe end of the day it’s HGH>peptides unless they’re free haha

I take that back, I think people will start to regret all these “fads” “trends” or whatever to lose weight, cut appetite all this nonsense wasn’t needed before and bodies have not changed just me guys doing new drugs

Test/HGH and you’re gold💯 imho
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Some of them are a quick fix that doesn’t address the root issue- kind of like how you’re supposed to go through counseling before you have bariatric surgery. Some people can take them and lose weight and continue on in life at a normal size but others don’t have that ability. They know that they can just inject themselves once a week to lose weight if they gain the weight back. I believe that people should have the right to do what they want to do as long as it doesn’t affect others negatively. Hell, I can’t sit here and judge others while I’m taking gear. But yeah, I do think sone will look back and regret it.
 
GrindingGrey said:
Some of them are a quick fix that doesn’t address the root issue- kind of like how you’re supposed to go through counseling before you have bariatric surgery. Some people can take them and lose weight and continue on in life at a normal size but others don’t have that ability. They know that they can just inject themselves once a week to lose weight if they gain the weight back. I believe that people should have the right to do what they want to do as long as it doesn’t affect others negatively. Hell, I can’t sit here and judge others while I’m taking gear. But yeah, I do think sone will look back and regret it.
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I was not coming off as judging or I didn’t intend to do that if I did.

It’s just a money game and I see things by numbers and with math, it’s just how my mind works and what we shave is a world of adults connected to www and belive others who have discipline and good genetics to far wiser and they sell them products

If tomorrow they change something there’s gonna be a new peptide that’s better than the last one, it’s just out of hand imho

But yeah I agree do what you want, when I want I use HGH/ test and I’m doing the right now … no AI a couple bottles of supps, I really like ashwagana but I was mainly speaking supps like magnesium and kidney supps.

I believe in grounding, walking in the sun with no sunscreen and knowing who you are in Christ and what’s you’re body is capable of achieving when you’re disciplined. I also see that floor style calisthenics are underrated as well as ass to ankle body squats, man that’s just loosened me up by 10 years and I’m literally in what vid describe beginner stages of learning how to use my body in different ways

Now without HGH and test I’m a skinny mofo, I’m still a skinny mofo but it’s by choice haha

I know I got off topic, I had some caffeine late tonight haha
 
Meetketchup said:
It's getting out of hand. Vigorous Steve, Dean St Mart and even Nick Walker now to name a few. Pushing peptides such as Mot-C, SLU, now SS-31. No human studies in MOT-C or SLU and SS-31 just hit phase 2 which means starting human trials and it's for people with deficiency/disease lol NOT healthy bodybuilders.

Yeah, "well I felt it working, bla bla," ok.

Do some peptides work and have supporting evidence? That shit isn't cheap so do your due diligence in its efficacy in humans other than mice before buying.
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Isn't cheap at all,and i agree it has been out of hand..besides for the healing petides,i didn’t see anything spectacular, im saying good quality gh is out there, and $for$ it wins.hands down.
 
%100 !! Glps work , and maybe bpc/tb (I’ve been using the bpc/tb, and I might notice some benefit ) . GH is cheaper abd it works !!
 
Bigdaddyjak said:
%100 !! Glps work , and maybe bpc/tb (I’ve been using the bpc/tb, and I might notice some benefit ) . GH is cheaper abd it works !!
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Those do work..i never tried the blend,i just blended myself, a big dose of tb couple xs a week,and the bpc 2x day..it definitely helped..i have done this along w gh and by itself..
 
I'm skeptical on BPC/TB. I've done some sight injections and it seem to heal but couldn't tell if it was time or not. I've got a strained left glute that has been barking at me and will not heal and I've been blasting that wolverine stack for months and nothing.
 
I can only speak to the cosmetic ones and I can say for absolute certain the GHK CU works, like insanely well. Its taken years off my face. I had really inconsistent bowels since I was a kid, ran ghk-tb-bpc blend and I was absolutely shocked, normal bowel movements consistently and I have been off it for 3 months and still the same. I heard dr todd say anything that ends with “elin” or I guess secretagogues are completely snake oil. This is just my experience and the only ones I have messed with.
 
WED said:
I'm skeptical on BPC/TB. I've done some sight injections and it seem to heal but couldn't tell if it was time or not. I've got a strained left glute that has been barking at me and will not heal and I've been blasting that wolverine stack for months and nothing.
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I didn't find site injection was any different, i have broke over 7 vertebrae both tibia also tore about every other thing along w that.bad elbows was when i blasted the blend..it did heal..and yeah im dumb i also worked hard thru all that and never gave any breaks to actually heal..im creeping up on 50,and honestly just push foward,ignore pain..it gets better.3 upper rib fracture now is still a bitch..
Im rambling now,fuck pain..lol
 

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