How can I manage the definition

[Episodes]

Hello everyone,

MY PERSONAL INFORMATION:

173 82 kg

90 cm waist circumference

130 cm shoulder

35 cm biceps

My previous cures:

1. MY CURE CONTENT:

Ostarin

Cardarin

Yohimbe

2. MY CURE CONTENT:

Fragment

Yohimbe

3. MY CURE CONTENT:

500 mg testo e

400 mg train e

The only cure I benefited from was the testo train cure, I reached the form I wanted, then I was away from sports and nutrition due to an accident, as a result of a sedentary life, I became worse than my old self, my total testo value before my last course was 450, my current testo value is 290. I'm waiting for your valuable suggestions, fatigue, weakness, unhappiness, which I think depends on my testo level or fat situation, where, how, what job do I need to start, I started bodybuilding again, it's been 1 month

MY NEWLY PLANNED CURE HK:

Testo p

Reta

But I don't know if it's worth it, I need to do something, but I can't start, I can't decide.

 

[elit3keraed]

What is train? You mean tren?

I don’t think you need tren at all right now. I wouldn’t even waste my time with ostarine and if you’re talking about HGH frag I definitely wouldn’t waste it either.

Test and Reta will do wonders for you. Get your shit under control then taper back on the Reta to manage cravings, up your test and bulk slowly.

If you’re really wanting to spend more money then maybe some hgh depending on age and goals. I’m assuming you want to get lean?

 

[Episodes]

What is train? You mean tren?

I don’t think you need tren at all right now. I wouldn’t even waste my time with ostarine and if you’re talking about HGH frag I definitely wouldn’t waste it either.

Test and Reta will do wonders for you. Get your shit under control then taper back on the Reta to manage cravings, up your test and bulk slowly.

If you’re really wanting to spend more money then maybe some hgh depending on age and goals. I’m assuming you want to get lean?

Oops, I'm sorry, translation error, I think my most effective cycle was testo train, but I can't do a heavy cure again, I want to get rid of my oils, I think the most logical one is reta and testo, so how should the doses be, how long should it last?

 

[Phill]

The only thing you really need is exactly what you said: train!

Train hard! At the stage you’re at right now, you don’t need anything else.

 

[Episodes]

The only thing you really need is exactly what you said: train!

Train hard! At the stage you’re at right now, you don’t need anything else.

Wouldn't Reta and 250 mg testo make a big difference? Also, I'm a victim of the missing pct from my previous cycle. I need to do pct, so I thought I'd use 250 mg testo when I was going to do pct.

 

[Phill]

Wouldn't Reta and 250 mg testo make a big difference? Also, I'm a victim of the missing pct from my previous cycle. I need to do pct, so I thought I'd use 250 mg testo when I was going to do pct.

So you’re not doing PCT and you’re going back on cycle instead.

 

[Episodes]

So you’re not doing PCT and you’re going back on cycle instead.

Yes ıkı going back on cycle and than doing pct

 

[elit3keraed]

Since you could just do a PCT instead of hoping on cycle but you’re insistent on hoping on cycle then sure just do 250mg of test a week and titrate up the Reta starting somewhere between .5 and 1mg every week and going up as you see fit/tolerate sides

 

[OlePhart]

You didn't state your age. Dependent on age pct might be fruitless. I came all the way off recently, did a full on pct, waited two weeks for compounds to clear and got labs done. It wasn't pretty so I'm back on and will be on trt for the rest of my life. But I'll be 60 in July so fwiw. You might be young enough to recover. If not it's something to consider. Only one way to find out.

 

[Episodes]

Since you could just do a PCT instead of hoping on cycle but you’re insistent on hoping on cycle then sure just do 250mg of test a week and titrate up the Reta starting somewhere between .5 and 1mg every week and going up as you see fit/tolerate sides

You didn't state your age. Dependent on age pct might be fruitless. I came all the way off recently, did a full on pct, waited two weeks for compounds to clear and got labs done. It wasn't pretty so I'm back on and will be on trt for the rest of my life. But I'll be 60 in July so fwiw. You might be young enough to recover. If not it's something to consider. Only one way to find out.

Which would make more sense, should I do pct now and continue my life or should I go into a cycle and then do pct, I'm 30 years old

 

[OlePhart]

Which would make more sense, should I do pct now and continue my life or should I go into a cycle and then do pct, I'm 30 years old

You said you skipped the last one. I wouldn't push my luck by just diving right back in not knowing. It'll take a little longer but yeah, I'd get it done then get labs so you have a decent baseline and know where you stand on the rest of your labs.

 

[elit3keraed]

Which would make more sense, should I do pct now and continue my life or should I go into a cycle and then do pct, I'm 30 years old

It’s much better to PCT than to not. I would run a long PCT and see where you wind up. I only recommend the cycle because you seemed very insistent on just running one.

Get your stuff all normalized before you jump into the deep end again

 

[Episodes]

It’s much better to PCT than to not. I would run a long PCT and see where you wind up. I only recommend the cycle because you seemed very insistent on just running one.

Get your stuff all normalized before you jump into the deep end again

So you say do pct first then start cycle

 

[elit3keraed]

I’d say do PCT then wait a few months to see where you’re at. Low dose Reta could help with insulin sensitivity while your hormones are fucked up (.5 to 1mg)

It’s not just

“Okay PCT done time to jump on”. You do pct, then pull bloods after a few weeks to see where you’re at without all the drugs boosting your bodies lh and FSH output. Then go from there.

Take it from someone who just did whatever for years, patience is the game. Hell even now I’m contemplating going from 3mg Reta to 3.5 or 4…I’ve been on almost 12 weeks which is way slower than the clinical trials dosage escalation wise (I’d be at 8 by now).

If you want kids in the future, PCT. If you don’t care about it being harder then just cruise indefinitely and blast when you want.

 

[Episodes]

PCT yapın ve sonra nerede olduğunuzu görmek için birkaç ay bekleyin derim. Düşük doz Reta, hormonlarınız berbatken insülin duyarlılığına yardımcı olabilir (.5 ila 1 mg)

Sadece değil

"Tamam PCT atlama zamanı geldi". Pct yaparsınız, ardından vücudunuzu artıran tüm ilaçlar olmadan nerede olduğunuzu görmek için birkaç hafta sonra kan çekersiniz lh ve FSH çıktısı. O zaman oradan devam et.

Yıllarca ne yaparsa yapsın, sabır oyundur. Kahretsin şimdi bile 3 mg Reta'dan 3,5 veya 4'e gitmeyi düşünüyorum... Neredeyse 12 haftadır, bu da klinik denemelerin dozaj artışından çok daha yavaş (şimdiye kadar 8'de olurdum).

Gelecekte çocuk istiyorsanız, PCT. Daha zor olmasını umursamıyorsanız, o zaman süresiz olarak seyir yapın ve istediğiniz zaman patlayın.

Son döngü 02.01.2025

First 2 weeks 1 full clomen, the other 2 weeks half clomen enough for pct

 

[elit3keraed]

Honestly I would run 4 weeks minimum. Idk if you can get your hands on enclo but that would be my choice.

Run Clomid 4 weeks. I’d probably go extreme and add Nolva alongside.

I’d run a minimum of 25mg of Clomid a day maybe taper to 12.5 on the last week.

Idk how bad your shutdown is or what your LH/FSH look like right now (the data on the photos doesn’t translate).

Ideally if you cycle you want to run hCG the duration of your cycle to keep your cells sensitized to make pct easier