First cycle since TRT

[Double_J]

51yr old next month and I've been on TRT for around 9+ months. Currently on test e 80mg split twice a week. When doctor gives me 100mg my test and estrogen goes beyond reference ranges.

My doctor checks my blood every 3 months like clock work and if I'm over the range lowers my dosage (this has happened a couple of times with 100mg).

In about 6 months I want to do a blast because I'm confident I will be under 10% by then and will have had a chance to run a short calorie surplus and cut again.
Because of my 3 month blood intervals the blast needs to be short.

Please let me know if this would help out on lean muscle and still hit my labs.

80mg of test e (baseline TRT)
20mg of test prop daily for 10 weeks. This gives two weeks to flush out before blood test.

Repeat another round of above for 10 weeks right after blood draw.

This would give me 20 weeks of higher levels well over baseline with a 2 week gap to flush out the prop between.

I have AI on hand if needed. Was also thinking of trying mast or primo but wanted to keep compounds simple since prop is new to me plus legit mast and primo are harder to come by.

Open to alternatives as long as I can make my blood levels by check-in.

 

[Glycomann]

Can you change doctors or at least go to checkups every 6 months?

 

[Double_J]

Can you change doctors or at least go to checkups every 6 months?

Current doctor says they won't allow 6 months I've tried. I am exploring alternative doctors here in Canada but in the event I'm unsuccessful the above cycle is my workaround.

 

[MrWhisper]

Current doctor says they won't allow 6 months I've tried. I am exploring alternative doctors here in Canada but in the event I'm unsuccessful the above cycle is my workaround.

If you can’t work around with new Dr you can always control your own trt if you want to. If not then I think your plan works well. The Test Prop is a good idea bc it will allow you to get it out of your system quick.
If you are going to run this type of cycle then start with just that and see how it goes 1st. Then is all works out well and bloods are still good the next run you can try some Primo or Mast. Maybe Mast Prop with the Test Prop for the next round?

 

[Notnatty06]

I need some help I tried npp and tren but with each I was having pain in my gooch/taint while ejaculating or taking a shit has anyone seen this ?

 

[Glycomann]

I need some help I tried npp and tren but with each I was having pain in my gooch/taint while ejaculating or taking a shit has anyone seen this ?

Yes for a while many years go I would get that with deca. I figured it was prostate even though nandrolones are suppose to be less of an issue with prostate but there you go.

 

[Notnatty06]

Yes for a while many years go I would get that with deca. I figured it was prostate even though nandrolones are suppose to be less of an issue with prostate but there you go.

Is it something I should stop my cycle for does it subside or am I causing damage doing it ?

 

[Glycomann]

Ot OP, Andres Berry, one of the Youtube coaches, has his guys go off or lower test while staying on other stuff around the Dr appointment. I never did that but he claims it works. I would be concerned that the other blood work goes a bit out of range like lipids and hematocrit. But maybe it's worth a trial. you can get blood work outside of his practice through personalabs or one of the others. They are online. you buy your test and go to quest or Labcorp and get your bloods. Then you get your lab report online.

 

[ruffus]

I do daily injects with TC. My cycles are a more TC and primo. At the end of the cycle i skip a few days of injects then just go back to my usual TRT. 2 weeks gets me in range. 3 weeks on TRT gets all my blood work where i want it.

 

[Knarfster]

51yr old next month and I've been on TRT for around 9+ months. Currently on test e 80mg split twice a week. When doctor gives me 100mg my test and estrogen goes beyond reference ranges.

My doctor checks my blood every 3 months like clock work and if I'm over the range lowers my dosage (this has happened a couple of times with 100mg).

In about 6 months I want to do a blast because I'm confident I will be under 10% by then and will have had a chance to run a short calorie surplus and cut again.
Because of my 3 month blood intervals the blast needs to be short.

Please let me know if this would help out on lean muscle and still hit my labs.

80mg of test e (baseline TRT)
20mg of test prop daily for 10 weeks. This gives two weeks to flush out before blood test.

Repeat another round of above for 10 weeks right after blood draw.

This would give me 20 weeks of higher levels well over baseline with a 2 week gap to flush out the prop between.

I have AI on hand if needed. Was also thinking of trying mast or primo but wanted to keep compounds simple since prop is new to me plus legit mast and primo are harder to come by.

Open to alternatives as long as I can make my blood levels by check-in.

"When doctor gives me 100mg my test and estrogen goes beyond reference ranges." So? get a different doctor and order your own blood work. I do 500 mg a week test Cyp and drop back to 90 mg for 4 weeks and I test around 800-900 for the Dr.

 

[2bull]

51yr old next month and I've been on TRT for around 9+ months. Currently on test e 80mg split twice a week. When doctor gives me 100mg my test and estrogen goes beyond reference ranges.

My doctor checks my blood every 3 months like clock work and if I'm over the range lowers my dosage (this has happened a couple of times with 100mg).

In about 6 months I want to do a blast because I'm confident I will be under 10% by then and will have had a chance to run a short calorie surplus and cut again.
Because of my 3 month blood intervals the blast needs to be short.

Please let me know if this would help out on lean muscle and still hit my labs.

80mg of test e (baseline TRT)
20mg of test prop daily for 10 weeks. This gives two weeks to flush out before blood test.

Repeat another round of above for 10 weeks right after blood draw.

This would give me 20 weeks of higher levels well over baseline with a 2 week gap to flush out the prop between.

I have AI on hand if needed. Was also thinking of trying mast or primo but wanted to keep compounds simple since prop is new to me plus legit mast and primo are harder to come by.

Open to alternatives as long as I can make my blood levels by check-in.

Bro don’t play this game with this shitheal doctor who doesn’t know about hormones. Start doing it your way. 80mg a week of test is just plain sad. Find a better doc or do it yourself. You won’t get anywhere having to accommodate this nincompoops medical license protection model.

 

[2bull]

Test Prop 20mg a day is a rotten experience. It rifles thru you and fries off so fast and gives loads of side effects like water, estrogen and sleep problems.

Maybe keep this guy as your primary doctor and get an additional TRT guy. Or find a better doctor honestly at our age it’s a great investment.

It’s possible to look at bloodwork on your own. Plenty of guys know which are the important metrics to be checking and when. Some DIY.

It is dangerous and you can fuck yourself. You gotta be smart and you gotta be careful. Some guys need a doctor and there’s nothing wrong with that. Nothing beats having an expert physician who really knows his stuff.

 

[Knarfster]

Test Prop 20mg a day is a rotten experience. It rifles thru you and fries off so fast and gives loads of side effects like water, estrogen and sleep problems.

Maybe keep this guy as your primary doctor and get an additional TRT guy. Or find a better doctor honestly at our age it’s a great investment.

It’s possible to look at bloodwork on your own. Plenty of guys know which are the important metrics to be checking and when. Some DIY.

It is dangerous and you can fuck yourself. You gotta be smart and you gotta be careful. Some guys need a doctor and there’s nothing wrong with that. Nothing beats having an expert physician who really knows his stuff.

Since when does test Prop load water? I thought it had less water retention than Test Cyp.