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New member here but I have been lurking for the last few months gathering helpful information. I am 23 years old BW 190 lbs height 6 feet. I know everyone in here is against younger people running a test cycle but for reference I have been training and eating clean for the last four years. Eating clean from Sunday-Friday in a calorie surplus. The reason I’m considering a test cycle is because for the last 18 months I’ve had three blood tests and my test level has been between 410-460 ng/dl. Obviously not low enough levels to get on trt especially at my age so I’m debating running a “beginner” test cycle at 250 mg for 12 weeks then maybe coming off with a pct or just cruising on a low dose. I definitely want to see gains In the gym but also would be great to see the cycle help with mental health. Just typical shit like anxiety and also could use the help with libido. My plan for the cycle would be 250 mg test a week with doing 2-3 injections per week. Have aromasin on hand just incase of high e2 side effects (hopefully with this low dose and spreading the injections out I will not have many side effects). Will also have hcg and inject twice a week to hopefully keep my nuts at full size. If I pct instead of cruise I will have nolvadex on hand. Going to get blood work before for a baseline then at 6 weeks then again at 12 weeks.

Questions I have
Should Inject Test e or Test c for first cycle?
Will doing three injections per week instead of two help minimize side effects?
How much hcg should I be using per week?
Planning on pinning glutes what size needle and gauge would be appropriate?

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
Test E or C it's really a personal preference. Try both and see what works better for you. You can use a 25 gauge 1" or try smaller. I'm using a 27 gauge 1" right now and you really don't even feel it
I experimented with injection frequently with Test C and for me I saw no advantages pinning more than 2 x a week on my labs. 250-300mg should be fine for a 1st cycle at 10-12 weeks. I have never used HCG and don't PCT so someone else can comment on that subject. Don't pin glutes your asking for misery. Just my opion.

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Powerhousehb said:
Test E or C it's really a personal preference. Try both and see what works better for you. You can use a 25 gauge 1" or try smaller. I'm using a 27 gauge 1" right now and you really don't even feel it
I experimented with injection frequently with Test C and for me I saw no advantages pinning more than 2 x a week on my labs. 250-300mg should be fine for a 1st cycle at 10-12 weeks. I have never used HCG and don't PCT so someone else can comment on that subject. Don't pin glutes your asking for misery. Just my opion.

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Thanks for the reply not wanting to pin quads. Delts?
 
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I much prefer sustanon over test cyp or test enan because it has 4 time released esters so it kicks in very quickly and is sustained much longer. Twice a week injects is a good way to go. Glutes or delts are both great injection sites.
500ius HCG twice a week taken the night before your testosterone injections is the protocol the big boys use. I think 250mg is plenty of testosterone to give you great gains if you eat right meaning get that protein and those complex carbs in 6 times a day. You can alternate food meals with protein/oat shakes. 👍
 
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I much prefer sustanon over test cyp or test enan because it has 4 time released esters so it kicks in very quickly and is sustained much longer. Twice a week injects is a good way to go. Glutes or delts are both great injection sites.
500ius HCG twice a week taken the night before your testosterone injections is the protocol the big boys use. I think 250mg is plenty of testosterone to give you great gains if you eat right meaning get that protein and those complex carbs in 6 times a day. You can alternate food meals with protein/oat shakes. 👍
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Thanks!
 
Imo, sustanon 250 split into two doses is ideal for what you are wanting to run.

HCG really jacked up my estrogen, so I am not a fan of running it, I have personally stop using hcg. Blood work will tell if it has the same effect on you.



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Draig said:
Imo, sustanon 250 split into two doses is ideal for what you are wanting to run.

HCG really jacked up my estrogen, so I am not a fan of running it, I have personally stop using hcg. Blood work will tell if it has the same effect on you.



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Thanks! I will probably give hcg a try and see what my blood work looks like at 6 weeks
 
Pinning glutes and with what needle depends on how lean you are… so how lean are you if you were to guess? I wouldn’t cruise after this “cycle” which ain’t really a cycle more like trt plus. This pinning for life thing gets old and if I didn’t have to, I wouldn’t.
 
Draig said:
Imo, sustanon 250 split into two doses is ideal for what you are wanting to run.

HCG really jacked up my estrogen, so I am not a fan of running it, I have personally stop using hcg. Blood work will tell if it has the same effect on you.



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Astro95 said:
Pinning glutes and with what needle depends on how lean you are… so how lean are you if you were to guess? I wouldn’t cruise after this “cycle” which ain’t really a cycle more like trt plus. This pinning for life thing gets old and if I didn’t have to, I wouldn’t.
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After being in a surplus I would say around 16-18%. The reason I said cruise at a lower dose is because I don’t necessarily want to come off and feel like shit again. From the last three blood tests it looks like trt is going to be in my future anyways. Thanks!
 
Bigman12 said:
After being in a surplus I would say around 16-18%. The reason I said cruise at a lower dose is because I don’t necessarily want to come off and feel like shit again. From the last three blood tests it looks like trt is going to be in my future anyways. Thanks!
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A 1inch should be sufficient that’s what I use. If you extra thick then 1.5 to be safe, but it’s over kill imo. There’s other ways to boost natural test other than jabbing and being able to sustain improved levels, but if trt is the way then I wish you luck. Welcome to asf!
 

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