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First Cycle advice 20yrs old

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Hi I'm 20yrs old, male 5'7", ~149 lb. And I wanted to get some advice/thoughts about my first cycle my goal is to maximize muscle and energy over the cycle, come off and recover natural production. I havent started or bought anything yet. im gonna do bloodwork every 6 weeks, 2700 calories tracked. I have diet, sleep, training and everything else pretty dialed in.

Questions
1. Is 20 weeks too long for a first cycle at 20, or is 12-16 the smarter call? Recovery is my main concern, not peak gains.
2. hCG — is back-loading from week 13 the right call, or should it run low-dose throughout? Is 12 days post-cycle at 1,000 IU EOD enough before the SERM?
3. Hct starting at 48.6% — how much headroom do I actually have at 200 mg/wk before I need to act?
4. Does the AST 60 / bili 1.4 need to be fully resolved before first pin, or is a clean recheck enough?
5. Anything on the buy list that's wrong, and anything missing?
6. PCT dosing — is 40/20 x4wk enough or should I extend to 6?
7. should i aim to run just test and wait until my first bloodwork to figure out what to do for pct, I my main fear is shutting down my natural testing production permanently

Hormones from my recent bloodwork:
  • Total T (LC/MS/MS): 466 ng/dL (250-1100)
  • Free T: 86.7 pg/mL (46-224)
  • Bioavailable T: 185.9 ng/dL (110-575)
  • SHBG: 21 nmol/L (10-50)
  • Albumin: 4.7 g/dL
  • LH: 3.4 mIU/mL (1.5-9.3)
  • FSH: 3.7 mIU/mL (1.4-12.8)
  • Estradiol: <30 pg/mL (immunoassay, ≤39)
  • DHEA-S: 476 mcg/dL (20-480)
  • IGF-1: 216 ng/mL, Z -0.5
  • TSH: 0.82 mIU/L
  • PSA: 0.9 ng/mL

CBC:
- WBC 6.4, RBC 5.59, Hgb 16.9, Hct 48.6, Plt 158

Lipids:
- TC 185, HDL 50, LDL 119, TG 65, non-HDL 135, TC/HDL 3.7

CMP:
  • Glucose 87, BUN 20, Creatinine 1.21, eGFR 88, Na 137, K 4.5, Cl 101, CO2 25, Ca 9.8
  • Total bili 1.4 (0.2-1.1), AST 60 (12-32), ALT 20 (8-46), ALP 78
  • Albumin 4.8, Total protein 6.9

I think my AST/bili were flagged after a hard swim and gym session the day before.

Planned cycle
  • Test C 200 mg/mL — 20 weeks at 200 mg/wk, pinned 100 mg E3.5D subq with slin pins
  • hCG: nothing weeks 1-12, then 500 IU Mon/Thu weeks 13-20, then 1,000 IU EOD for 12 days after last pin or do maintance at 250-500 IU 2x/wk for full 20weeks
  • Anastrozole 1 mg on hand only — no AI unless week 6 sensitive E2 comes back >60-70 or I get symptoms. 0.5 mg 2x/wk if needed.
  • No taper

PCT
  • Start 14-18 days after last injection
  • Tamoxifen 40 mg/day x14d, then 20 mg/day x14d
  • Clomid 25-50 mg/day optional alongside if I can source it

Monitoring
  • CBC, CMP, lipids, sensitive E2, total T at week 6; CBC + lipids + BP at weeks 12 and 18
  • Hct >52: hydrate, split dose, more cardio. Hct >54: donate, check ferritin

My Planned Purchases
  • Test C 200mg/mL x12mL x3 vials
  • hCG 10,000 IU x2 vials
  • Bac water 30 mL
  • Tamoxifen 20mg x30-42 tabs
  • Arimidex 1mg x1 box
  • 27-30g 1/2" slin pins x60, swabs, sharps bin
 
I guarantee if you put as much time and effort into your training, diet, and actually putting in work at the gym (none of which you bothered to mention) as you did putting together this fucking god-awful AI/ChatGPT-generated cycle protocol, you wouldn't even be considering a cycle.
 
I guarantee if you put as much time and effort into your training, diet, and actually putting in work at the gym (none of which you bothered to mention) as you did putting together this fucking god-awful AI/ChatGPT-generated cycle protocol, you wouldn't even be considering a cycle.
I second this. Also curious as why you test level is that low for a 20 year old.

PSA you’re victim weight man. Put the syringe down and pick up the fork and some weights.
 
If your goal is to preserve your natural production, 200mg of Test won't do what you hope its going to do in 12-16 weeks. It also will not do what you hope it will do in 20 weeks. It will, however, do exactly what you dont what it to do in that short period of time; negatively impact your natural production, raise your already sub-optimal LDL, raise your already borderline RBC. Basically, you won't get the gains that you want, and all of the negatives that you dont. You'd be lucky, really damn lucky, to put on 3-4lbs of lean muscle in those time frames. You'd be even more lucky if you even noticed it in the mirror, and if you did, its likely just the extra water retention.

As others have said, your time, effort, and money would be better served using it for a good diet and some structured training. You'd see more results without the negatives.

In other words, 200mg of Test isn't shit and isn't gonna do shit for you. You'd have to run a hell of alot more which would only compound the problems. It ain't worth it.

Take the pass on the gear, keep your body healthy, and there are alot of people here that if you listen to, can easily help you start a diet and training program that would far exceed that 200mg. Start a log in the log forum, people will help you.
 
Hi I'm 20yrs old, male 5'7", ~149 lb. And I wanted to get some advice/thoughts about my first cycle my goal is to maximize muscle and energy over the cycle, come off and recover natural production. I havent started or bought anything yet. im gonna do bloodwork every 6 weeks, 2700 calories tracked. I have diet, sleep, training and everything else pretty dialed in.

Questions
1. Is 20 weeks too long for a first cycle at 20, or is 12-16 the smarter call? Recovery is my main concern, not peak gains.
2. hCG — is back-loading from week 13 the right call, or should it run low-dose throughout? Is 12 days post-cycle at 1,000 IU EOD enough before the SERM?
3. Hct starting at 48.6% — how much headroom do I actually have at 200 mg/wk before I need to act?
4. Does the AST 60 / bili 1.4 need to be fully resolved before first pin, or is a clean recheck enough?
5. Anything on the buy list that's wrong, and anything missing?
6. PCT dosing — is 40/20 x4wk enough or should I extend to 6?
7. should i aim to run just test and wait until my first bloodwork to figure out what to do for pct, I my main fear is shutting down my natural testing production permanently

Hormones from my recent bloodwork:
  • Total T (LC/MS/MS): 466 ng/dL (250-1100)
  • Free T: 86.7 pg/mL (46-224)
  • Bioavailable T: 185.9 ng/dL (110-575)
  • SHBG: 21 nmol/L (10-50)
  • Albumin: 4.7 g/dL
  • LH: 3.4 mIU/mL (1.5-9.3)
  • FSH: 3.7 mIU/mL (1.4-12.8)
  • Estradiol: <30 pg/mL (immunoassay, ≤39)
  • DHEA-S: 476 mcg/dL (20-480)
  • IGF-1: 216 ng/mL, Z -0.5
  • TSH: 0.82 mIU/L
  • PSA: 0.9 ng/mL

CBC:
- WBC 6.4, RBC 5.59, Hgb 16.9, Hct 48.6, Plt 158

Lipids:
- TC 185, HDL 50, LDL 119, TG 65, non-HDL 135, TC/HDL 3.7

CMP:
  • Glucose 87, BUN 20, Creatinine 1.21, eGFR 88, Na 137, K 4.5, Cl 101, CO2 25, Ca 9.8
  • Total bili 1.4 (0.2-1.1), AST 60 (12-32), ALT 20 (8-46), ALP 78
  • Albumin 4.8, Total protein 6.9

I think my AST/bili were flagged after a hard swim and gym session the day before.

Planned cycle
  • Test C 200 mg/mL — 20 weeks at 200 mg/wk, pinned 100 mg E3.5D subq with slin pins
  • hCG: nothing weeks 1-12, then 500 IU Mon/Thu weeks 13-20, then 1,000 IU EOD for 12 days after last pin or do maintance at 250-500 IU 2x/wk for full 20weeks
  • Anastrozole 1 mg on hand only — no AI unless week 6 sensitive E2 comes back >60-70 or I get symptoms. 0.5 mg 2x/wk if needed.
  • No taper

PCT
  • Start 14-18 days after last injection
  • Tamoxifen 40 mg/day x14d, then 20 mg/day x14d
  • Clomid 25-50 mg/day optional alongside if I can source it

Monitoring
  • CBC, CMP, lipids, sensitive E2, total T at week 6; CBC + lipids + BP at weeks 12 and 18
  • Hct >52: hydrate, split dose, more cardio. Hct >54: donate, check ferritin

My Planned Purchases
  • Test C 200mg/mL x12mL x3 vials
  • hCG 10,000 IU x2 vials
  • Bac water 30 mL
  • Tamoxifen 20mg x30-42 tabs
  • Arimidex 1mg x1 box
  • 27-30g 1/2" slin pins x60, swabs, sharps bin
1. Is 20 weeks too long for a first cycle at 20 Yes , 1 week is too long.
 

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