EQ for contest prep?

[GasmanX]

This is directed at anybody who has used EQ for contest prep. Any unique challenges managing EQ in this context? Since mast/primo availability is unreliable I was considering using it for my upcoming prep. Used EQ for the first time this last push phase and really liked the experience.

I have heard of pros using it but seems like they would pull it very early on and swap in preferred DHT derivative. Curious to hear any experiences.

 

[Meetketchup]

Wouldn't be my first choice, but you can certainly use EQ up until 6-10 weeks out or whenever you want to introduce the DHT/shorter esters. You just have to pull no later than that due to the ridiculous long half-life. So beginning prep with EQ or NPP and switching is all good. Usually an NPP to Mast/Primo would be my first choice.

 

[lottalead]

Wouldn't be my first choice, but you can certainly use EQ up until 6-10 weeks out or whenever you want to introduce the DHT/shorter esters. You just have to pull no later than that due to the ridiculous long half-life. So beginning prep with EQ or NPP and switching is all good. Usually an NPP to Mast/Primo would be my first choice.

that stuff stays in you forever seems like it would screw up a lot of prep--

 

[Meetketchup]

eems like it would screw up a lot of prep--

It doesn't when you pull at 6-10 weeks.

Just better options IMO

 

[GasmanX]

Wouldn't be my first choice, but you can certainly use EQ up until 6-10 weeks out or whenever you want to introduce the DHT/shorter esters. You just have to pull no later than that due to the ridiculous long half-life. So beginning prep with EQ or NPP and switching is all good. Usually an NPP to Mast/Primo would be my first choice.

But what is the reason for pulling it If the look is good and doing what you want? Is it purely an estrogen issue or something else?

 

[Meetketchup]

But what is the reason for pulling it If the look is good and doing what you want? Is it purely an estrogen issue or something else?

If you look good and want to run it, run it through.

Why cut it? Usually increases hunger which as you've been through a prep, is the last thing you want when calories get really low trying to push through workouts. Estrogen is not an issue as it "usually" suppresses it most guys. However, it does retain water. Varies on the individual obviously, but common and some hold a good amount. If you want to pull for any reason as the show gets close it will stay in your system and you're stuck. It's not nearly as dry as Mast or Primo.

So switching to a DHT like Mast ensures less water retention, a tighter look, no hematocrit worries as you have enough problems at this point and you can pull or tweak at any time with no increased appetite issues. You also make more room to add tren if needed. You should only run so many mg's of gear and I'd rather go in with a combo of let's say Mast and Tren for "the look" rather than EQ. Another thing I find are orals like var, Winny and Halo work better with the dryness of injectable DHTs.

Few other minor things but you get the idea.

Just my opinion. No right or wrong way to do it man.

 

[GasmanX]

If you look good and want to run it, run it through.

Why cut it? Usually increases hunger which as you've been through a prep, is the last thing you want when calories get really low trying to push through workouts. Estrogen is not an issue as it "usually" suppresses it most guys. However, it does retain water. Varies on the individual obviously, but common and some hold a good amount. If you want to pull for any reason as the show gets close it will stay in your system and you're stuck. It's not nearly as dry as Mast or Primo.

So switching to a DHT like Mast ensures less water retention, a tighter look, no hematocrit worries as you have enough problems at this point and you can pull or tweak at any time with no increased appetite issues. You also make more room to add tren if needed. You should only run so many mg's of gear and I'd rather go in with a combo of let's say Mast and Tren for "the look" rather than EQ. Another thing I find are orals like var, Winny and Halo work better with the dryness of injectable DHTs.

Few other minor things but you get the idea.

Just my opinion. No right or wrong way to do it man.

Thank you for the detailed response brother! This was what I was looking for.

 

[Meetketchup]

Thank you for the detailed response brother! This was what I was looking for.

You can hit me up via DM any time man. You know that.

 

[Knarfster]

This is directed at anybody who has used EQ for contest prep. Any unique challenges managing EQ in this context? Since mast/primo availability is unreliable I was considering using it for my upcoming prep. Used EQ for the first time this last push phase and really liked the experience.

I have heard of pros using it but seems like they would pull it very early on and swap in preferred DHT derivative. Curious to hear any experiences.

I have no idea why people say Primo and Mast are hard to get. Maybe if you are cheaping out, but I have had no problem getting either from Very reputable sources on here.

 

[balin]

Due to the long ester in EQ i used bold cyp once it became available.

 

[Wardamn]

This is directed at anybody who has used EQ for contest prep. Any unique challenges managing EQ in this context? Since mast/primo availability is unreliable I was considering using it for my upcoming prep. Used EQ for the first time this last push phase and really liked the experience.

I have heard of pros using it but seems like they would pull it very early on and swap in preferred DHT derivative. Curious to hear any experiences.

Possibly not get as dry on EQ as Mast. But if dryness and conditioning is easy EQ can help add a little more fullness and roundness compared to mast.

 

[GasmanX]

Possibly not get as dry on EQ as Mast. But if dryness and conditioning is easy EQ can help add a little more fullness and roundness compared to mast.

i appreciate your input

 

[Theotherone55]

Im using EQ right now, at the beginning of prep. No problems at all. Ill eventually transition to more DHT stuff at like 10 weeks out ish. But i'll trade that dry look for the nice round fuller one these first 7 or so weeks.

that stuff stays in you forever seems like it would screw up a lot of prep--

what does that even mean? "screw up a lot of prep" ?

 

[GasmanX]

Im using EQ right now, at the beginning of prep. No problems at all. Ill eventually transition to more DHT stuff at like 10 weeks out ish. But i'll trade that dry look for the nice round fuller one these first 7 or so weeks.


what does that even mean? "screw up a lot of prep" ?

Thanks for the feedback. I hear a lot of people think mast flattens their look. You more of a primo guy for fullness or mast doesnt flatten you out?

 

[Wiseguy]

Thanks for the feedback. I hear a lot of people think mast flattens their look. You more of a primo guy for fullness or mast doesnt flatten you out?

My go to contest stack that works perfect

Test/Mast/Primo/Var. Two weeks prior to stepping on stage 20ml Halo.

 

[celrin321]

If you know exactly how it's tolerated in the athlete then sure. Imo EQ has among the largest variance in side effect profile(e2, rbc, kidneys, anxiety etc); some people it causes all kinds of problems and others it's just phenomenal smooth sailing. So if you've run it a lot and know exactly what it does, go for it. if you have never or only once I would stay away

 

[Theotherone55]

Thanks for the feedback. I hear a lot of people think mast flattens their look. You more of a primo guy for fullness or mast doesnt flatten you out?

Mast, as high enough doses, does seem to flatten guys out a bit. But its just an effect you are willing to live with for the rewards of being dry as fuck and looking crazy during prep. Hopefully you are refeeding enough to not make it tooo noticeable.