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Disappointing bloodwork results

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Downsouth

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Had bloods pulled on 400 mg of test c, didnt do a protocol as i was really trying to see where i was not testing potency. Came in at 742 which seems fairly low for 400 mg. Had taken 200mg every Tuesday and friday for 6 weeks before pulling bloods, last pin before the bloodwork was roughly 75 hour, Tuesday morning pin friday morning pull.

Seems low, maybe its not, thoughts?
 
That seems low. In my experience with athletes, 3-5x the test dosage (enanthate mostly) is about where you’d expect total testosterone to be. Lab results could be off or your test is likely under-dosed. Do you know what your e2 level was ?
 
Mhoughton said:
That seems low. In my experience with athletes, 3-5x the test dosage (enanthate mostly) is about where you’d expect total testosterone to be. Lab results could be off or your test is likely under-dosed. Do you know what your e2 level was ?
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25, just for transparency I was on 200 mg of primo as well aoni expected a lower e2 but that shouldn't have effected the testosterone level.
 
Everybody reacts different of different compound, even on test. I'm above 1200ng/dl tot. Test when pinning 180mg. But first of all, where you got your gear? There are a lot of fake products out there, even test! Did you ordered from one of the sponsors here? Because they're all legit and real quality products.
 
mae_geri said:
Everybody reacts different of different compound, even on test. I'm above 1200ng/dl tot. Test when pinning 180mg. But first of all, where you got your gear? There are a lot of fake products out there, even test! Did you ordered from one of the sponsors here? Because they're all legit and real quality products.
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It was a well respected sponsor here, I'm choosing to not slander anyone until I kinda make sure it isn't something else first. Ive tested in the 1400 range on 250mg previously as I know numbers can be subjective.
 
Downsouth said:
It was a well respected sponsor here, I'm choosing to not slander anyone until I kinda make sure it isn't something else first. Ive tested in the 1400 range on 250mg previously as I know numbers can be subjective.
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It does seem kind of low, but again could be many things. I would do it again just to make sure the test was accurate. How did the other markers look? RBC, Estrogen, Lipids?
 
Yeah, that seems pretty low, your TT is a bit higher than mine at 100 mg per week. What was your FT ?
 
Wiseguy said:
It does seem kind of low, but again could be many things. I would do it again just to make sure the test was accurate. How did the other markers look? RBC, Estrogen, Lipids?
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Everything was in range, cholesterol was slightly high. Liver values, RBC. WBC etc were good, free test was 250ish. Ill post it when I get on my laptop and can snip out personal info. Plan is to retest march 2nd to double check it.
 
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Ok, your FT is in line with what mine is and seems consistent with the TT . I guess if you really want to know, test it again.
 
J.S. said:
Ok, your FT is in line with what mine is and seems consistent with the TT . I guess if you really want to know, test it again.
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Yeah, im going to blind test with Jano as well as repull bloods. I absolutely do not want to make a wrongful accusation, plus it let's me know what everything is for certain.
 
Downsouth said:
It was a well respected sponsor here, I'm choosing to not slander anyone until I kinda make sure it isn't something else first. Ive tested in the 1400 range on 250mg previously as I know numbers can be subjective.
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Testing at 742, 3 days after pinning 200mg isnt unreasonable either depending on your body.

I would probably pull bloodwork 24hours after pinning just to see what the high level looks like.

If you arent satisfied, reach out to the rep for that sponsor via DM and voice your concerns with them. Most of the sponsors here are very willing to help. If you cant get satisfaction from a rep, contact an admin. I dont recommend going straight to the forum. There is a process.
 
Big_Jimmy434 said:
Testing at 742, 3 days after pinning 200mg isnt unreasonable either depending on your body.

I would probably pull bloodwork 24hours after pinning just to see what the high level looks like.

If you arent satisfied, reach out to the rep for that sponsor via DM and voice your concerns with them. Most of the sponsors here are very willing to help. If you cant get satisfaction from a rep, contact an admin. I dont recommend going straight to the forum. There is a process.
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I agree, thats why no sponsor is named nor implied. This was to get a community opinion on if i was outlandish for thinking there may be an issue, perhaps someone would see something I dont.

But yeah, no sponsor will be named regardless of outcome without private conversations with them prior to that.
 
Everyone is different, that being said im at or around 900 on 180mg of pharma cyp per week. Id def be looking further into it with some testing.
 
Yeah, looking back at previous bloodwork I've tested at >1500 on 250mg Cyp 48 hours post pin, which I understand isn't apples to apples considering a protocol wasn't followed this time. Seems like at 400mg and only an additional 27 hours between pin and pull it wouldn't drop out that far.

I'll do proper testing and find an answer.
 
We like to be transparent as everyone knows so it is SBL that the OP used.
As most already know we do the most hplc testing out of all the sponsors here and the last 2 months we have done more testing than all the sponsors combined. I told Downsouth to go retest as I've seen this happen a dozen times. Here are the hplc reports of the raws and finished oil he is using. They match up with his order number. As you can see we tested 2 batches of raws.
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FWIW my testosterone came back close to 4000 consistently on 750/week of SB Sustanon last summer. Nothing but good things to say about their products. Everyone responds different. Id def retest though
 
grock23 said:
FWIW my testosterone came back close to 4000 consistently on 750/week of SB Sustanon last summer. Nothing but good things to say about their products. Everyone responds different. Id def retest though
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First time I've used them, but i doubt 95% of the board is wrong on them being solid. Was really testing to get a base for test to primo ratio to control estrogen, not to check them.

Im sure everything will work out, of course I will still do my due diligence.
 
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Downsouth said:
Yeah, looking back at previous bloodwork I've tested at >1500 on 250mg Cyp 48 hours post pin, which I understand isn't apples to apples considering a protocol wasn't followed this time. Seems like at 400mg and only an additional 27 hours between pin and pull it wouldn't drop out that far.

I'll do proper testing and find an answer.
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Keep in mind, you're not pinning 400mg, you're pinning 200mg every 3 days and thats not the same.

250mg of Sust 48hrs later and 200mg Test C 3 days later are completely different.

Let us know about the retest.
 
celrin321 said:
Did not expect the SB labs plot twist.

For what its worth I'm running SB laps test-e 200mg and primo-e ~100mg.

Actually did labs as well this Friday on a trough and my test came back at 2000 and e2 at 35 so exactly on point for what I'm taking.
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Thanks for the information brother 🙏
 
For what it counts I’ve had bad labs from random vials from a sponsor or 2. Ran multiple vials with great labs then boom, bad labs. Toss bottle and start new one. Retest and everything is where it should be. No sponsor is immune to these things in my experience.
 
Just an update. I have not received my new bloodwork results as of yet but that will be irrelevant. Jano report that is attached confirms SB is completely fine. Probably a bad blood pull or the lab screwed something up. Thanks to SB for keeping a calm demeanor and selling quality products.
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It would be wise for the sources that are on top of the food chain here to sticky this especially when someone cries bunk on a product they know is 💯 they want a refund or this and that, get blood work and come talk to us after that. That door opens the same way it closes when it comes to this particular subject.
 

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