Deca Mental Effects

[BCeagle]

Gearing up for my fall cycle and getting my diet and research in order.

Was set on a 500/250 ratio and assume that will help avoid Deca dick (my worst nightmare). But just read a post about guys having wild mental affects on DECA. Seems like anxiety and fear and lashing out. I don't have an issue with test causing any mental effects.

Anyone experience it or is it just at higher doses? Should I start at 150 and titrate up?

 

[Syxen]

Gearing up for my fall cycle and getting my diet and research in order.

Was set on a 500/250 ratio and assume that will help avoid Deca dick (my worst nightmare). But just read a post about guys having wild mental affects on DECA. Seems like anxiety and fear and lashing out. I don't have an issue with test causing any mental effects.

Anyone experience it or is it just at higher doses? Should I start at 150 and titrate up?

Everyone is different and react differently to each compound. If you never tried it always start low and ride it out for 3-4 weeks and adjust from there.

19nor compounds can alter mood and rationality for sure ..

 

[chadmack]

Run npp first & see how that goes.

 

[Nood]

Save the Deca and run Npp for your first 19Nor compound to see how you respond. Deca will take about a month for the sides to dissipate, Npp about a week.

 

[Hablooblah]

All great advice above. Run the short ester first and gauge reaction to nandralone.

 

[Syxen]

Keeping in mind they won’t act the exact same as each other. I get weird on deca but feel great on npp

 

[RoidRage69]

If you run deca or NPP u must use proviron for the mental sides. Proviron was originally developed as an anti anxiety med.

 

[Big91mike]

Deca calms me down!

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

I'm a Deca fan, but drop the deca, run the NPP. It's just copy and paste in a different. Doesn't have near the side effects, shorter ester, quicker saturation time, you can run shorter cycles and still make noticeable gains, nowhere near the water weight, no moon face, etc. The list goes on.

With a 19-Nor, you do have to watch your Prolactin.

 

[chaostheory]

If you run deca or NPP u must use proviron for the mental sides. Proviron was originally developed as an anti anxiety med.

Have had zero mental sides from therapeutic deca dosage or NPP blast dosage. Love proviron but fucks my hdl. As everyone said, run NPP instead of deca.

 

[Lustyscripps]

I ran Deca for the first time about a year ago. Had Masteron in there for mental sides as a precaution. Felt amazing- full as a house, and the libido was out of control. Not everyone wants to add another compound which is completely fine. Like the others recommended- try NPP first, but just my two cents- Deca/Mast

 

[19NorFan]

I'm going to make a few posts on 19nors in the coming week, one of which will cover this topic specifically.

Whether nandrolone causes mental sides is individual dependent. There are things you can do through supplementation to mitigate those sides to a degree as well. For example, nandrolone influences the body's demand for certain nutrients, particularly neurotransmitter precursors like tyrosine and tryptophan. For some people, taking more of these nutrients through supplements will mitigate nandrolone sides. With this example, the mental sides are just the result of an inadequate amount of neurotransmitter or dopamine precursors present.

Taking nandrolone in place of testosterone as a base is also a way that some people get around the mental sides. I find that my mood on nandrolone is highly dependent on how much testosterone I am taking with it. Ideally, I take nandrolone as the solo androgen with hcg for estrogen OR 5-10mg test prop or test ace daily or eod for estrogen. With this approach, I can take over a gram of nandrolone per week and feel perfectly fine. And I will have none of the dht and androgen sides of an equivalent amount of testosterone (like acne, oily skin, prostate enlargement, hair thinning).

The same is true of trenbolone. My tolerance for trenbolone is much higher in the complete absence of testosterone. This is because testosterone can be converted into neuroactive metabolites that may have stimulating and depressive effects. With testosterone present you also have aromatization to contend with, which can stimulate prolactin. Since both nandrolone and trenbolone have a higher binding affinity for the AR, there's a higher likelihood of unbound test floating through your system converting to other hormones causing chaos.

In your situation as a new user, I'd start with NPP at 15mg per day. Do that for 3 weeks, if you feel fine, bump it up to 25mg per week for another 3 weeks and repeat. I would not start with decanoate because if the depressive sides hit you hard, that's going to be a rough next 3-4 weeks and it does take some people out for a month like that, which can disrupt your work or whatever else it is that you're doing. With NPP, it's effectively out of your system in about a week and half after cessation of use.

 

[FearsomeCOR]

As others have said it’s user dependent. I personally feel no difference mentally on any 19 nors.

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

Deconate depression is still very much a topic of debate because its only been in recent years that it has become a "side effect." I think some of it is legitimate and some is psychosymatic. I could give someone a snickers bar and if everyone says that's snickers have been known to cause "mental sides, " there are many that would swear that the snickers bar made them feel depressed only because they were already primed up. It's the power of suggestion.

Or, it turns out that the the guy's grandma died, dog died, lost his job, got evicted, and his truck got repossessed while he was taking Deca so Nandrolone gets the blame for his depression. Let's be completely honest, every man thats running around these days isnt all flowers and rainbows as it is, but they just aren't aware of how shitty they really feel until they become hyper-aware of it.

... and so the legend continues.

Then again people have bad days and good days with Deca and no Deca. I think there is some legitimacy to it, but I also don't think it's actually as prevalent as it gets credit for.

 

[BCeagle]

I actually have anti anxiety meds from when I couldn't breathe after my deviated septum surgery.

 

[BCeagle]

Run npp first & see how that goes.

I'll give it a shot and put another order in. Didn't see it on their stock list but I'll check again.

 

[BCeagle]

I'm going to make a few posts on 19nors in the coming week, one of which will cover this topic specifically.

Whether nandrolone causes mental sides is individual dependent. There are things you can do through supplementation to mitigate those sides to a degree as well. For example, nandrolone influences the body's demand for certain nutrients, particularly neurotransmitter precursors like tyrosine and tryptophan. For some people, taking more of these nutrients through supplements will mitigate nandrolone sides. With this example, the mental sides are just the result of an inadequate amount of neurotransmitter or dopamine precursors present.

Taking nandrolone in place of testosterone as a base is also a way that some people get around the mental sides. I find that my mood on nandrolone is highly dependent on how much testosterone I am taking with it. Ideally, I take nandrolone as the solo androgen with hcg for estrogen OR 5-10mg test prop or test ace daily or eod for estrogen. With this approach, I can take over a gram of nandrolone per week and feel perfectly fine. And I will have none of the dht and androgen sides of an equivalent amount of testosterone (like acne, oily skin, prostate enlargement, hair thinning).

The same is true of trenbolone. My tolerance for trenbolone is much higher in the complete absence of testosterone. This is because testosterone can be converted into neuroactive metabolites that may have stimulating and depressive effects. With testosterone present you also have aromatization to contend with, which can stimulate prolactin. Since both nandrolone and trenbolone have a higher binding affinity for the AR, there's a higher likelihood of unbound test floating through your system converting to other hormones causing chaos.

In your situation as a new user, I'd start with NPP at 15mg per day. Do that for 3 weeks, if you feel fine, bump it up to 25mg per week for another 3 weeks and repeat. I would not start with decanoate because if the depressive sides hit you hard, that's going to be a rough next 3-4 weeks and it does take some people out for a month like that, which can disrupt your work or whatever else it is that you're doing. With NPP, it's effectively out of your system in about a week and half after cessation of use.

Thanks, really appreciate the advice. I'll try the npp and save the deca until next year.

 

[Wally954]

U will probably be fine on such a low dose , i dont get the mental sides until around 300 mg of npp until about 6-8 weeks in. And it’s not too bad ,just realize it’s the nandralone fucking with u when u start thinking negative shit about your wife for no reason . Besides that nandralone makes me chill out in every other aspect of life, but thinking crazy shit about your wife will start to go round n round in your head if you stay on too long. You should start with npp tho just in case shit goes south, not only does it kick in a ton faster, but it will be out of your system pretty quick in comparison, plus I don’t have any libido issues on npp, it actually makes me horny as hell

 

[Meetketchup]

It seems like the majority of cases involving Deca and mental sides are usually in guys over 40. I’ve seen it more and more over the last five years probably because more people over 40 are running it. Lol. In all seriousness, I’ve noticed it with myself as well in that I used to be able to run it perfectly fine and haven’t over the last few years because I can’t handle it like I used to.

You’ve gotten great advice from a number of guys regarding running NPP first.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Gearing up for my fall cycle and getting my diet and research in order.

Was set on a 500/250 ratio and assume that will help avoid Deca dick (my worst nightmare). But just read a post about guys having wild mental affects on DECA. Seems like anxiety and fear and lashing out. I don't have an issue with test causing any mental effects.

Anyone experience it or is it just at higher doses? Should I start at 150 and titrate up?

I run Deca at a 1:1 ratio with my Test (usually Sust, but sometimes Cyp) and I've never had any issues with "deca dick".

I've also ran Deca as high as 600mgs per week (not anymore) and I've never had any mental issues. Obviously, everybody reacts differently to different compounds. I've actually never really heard of anybody having mental issues with Deca in my twelve or so years dabbling with AAS. That's moreso Tren IMO. People have all kinds of issues with that shit

I do like what a couple people already stated. You can always run NPP first and see how you like it at different doses. The cool thing is, if you start having mental issues, Deca dick, or any issues at all, you can stop the NPP or lower it and those issues will dissipate in 7-10 days.

Good luck with whatever you choose bro!!!

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[BCeagle]

shit about your wife will start to go round n round in your head if you stay on too long. You should start with npp tho just in case shit g

You are the second person that I heard say thinking shit about your wife. I can only imagine what would be going through my head since my first wife cheated on me. Im going to save the DECA for the spring and see how I react to the NPP.

Thanks. Now I can shift my research obsession to NPP. lol