Cycle rn for cutting.

[Dell henderson]

On about 160mg a week test, 2mg Reta, 4iu HGH, currently 30ish mcg clen. Everything is going well. Not feeling the clen but doesn’t mean it’s not working I like to think. Gonna keep titrating up little by little. About this clen though, been hearing a lot about just staying on and cycling. Not using keto so should I cycle on and off? 2-3 on, 2-3 off. Been having thoughts on adding something else but I’ll hold off on that.

 

[Nood]

On about 160mg a week test, 2mg Reta, 4iu HGH, currently 30ish mcg clen. Everything is going well. Not feeling the clen but doesn’t mean it’s not working I like to think. Gonna keep titrating up little by little. About this clen though, been hearing a lot about just staying on and cycling. Not using keto so should I cycle on and off? 2-3 on, 2-3 off. Been having thoughts on adding something else but I’ll hold off on that.

Don’t have to cycle off, just Increase dose by 20mcg every few weeks if your fatloss stalls. I typically top it off at 80mcg, everyone has different tolerances

 

[Wardamn]

On about 160mg a week test, 2mg Reta, 4iu HGH, currently 30ish mcg clen. Everything is going well. Not feeling the clen but doesn’t mean it’s not working I like to think. Gonna keep titrating up little by little. About this clen though, been hearing a lot about just staying on and cycling. Not using keto so should I cycle on and off? 2-3 on, 2-3 off. Been having thoughts on adding something else but I’ll hold off on that.

Don't cycle off the clen. Continue to run it straight. Up the dosage as needed.

 

[Nood]

Can also run it for a 4-6 weeks and switch to a ECA stack for 4-6 weeks and then reintroduce the Clen back in 20mcg higher then what you initially started at if need be

 

[Meetketchup]

You do not cycle clen. Low dose clen and ECA stack is king.

 

[Dell henderson]

Don't cycle off the clen. Continue to run it straight. Up the dosage as needed.

Sounds good, I take in morning with breakfast and that’s it. Been titrating up every 2-3 days until I feel sides but I should probably stop that and just look at the scale lol and when it stalls up by 20.

 

[Dell henderson]

You do not cycle clen. Low dose clen and ECA stack is king.

I’ll probably run that later on, maybe when I up my dosage and feel sides I may change my mind lol.

 

[Dell henderson]

Don’t have to cycle off, just Increase dose by 20mcg every few weeks if your fatloss stalls. I typically top it off at 80mcg, everyone has different tolerances

Sounds good. At 30ish rn, been titrating every 2-3 days but should probably just look at the scale annd up when stall. Everything has been great atm, no sides at all.

 

[19NorFan]

You do not cycle clen. Low dose clen and ECA stack is king.

ECA + 2-3mg rauwolscine for the a2-adrenergic receptor antagonism and it’s perfect.

 

[Nood]

Sounds good. At 30ish rn, been titrating every 2-3 days but should probably just look at the scale annd up when stall. Everything has been great atm, no sides at all.

Yeah that’s to quick, I’d bump it to 40mcg and stay there for atleast 2-4 weeks before making adjustments. Just supposed to assist getting off the stubborn fat. Majority of your fatloss should have already happened before implementing Clen, from cardio and diet

 

[Meetketchup]

ECA + 2-3mg rauwolscine for the a2-adrenergic receptor antagonism and it’s perfect.

The Yohimbe is like taking the governor modulator off and the clen is pressing on the gas.

 

[Dell henderson]

Yeah that’s to quick, I’d bump it to 40mcg and stay there for atleast 2-4 weeks before making adjustments. Just supposed to assist getting off the stubborn fat. Majority of your fatloss should have already happened before implementing Clen, from cardio and diet

Exactly why I got it. hard for me to get the actual 40 because it’s overdosed at 76 for 1 pill. I just split in half and get 30ish. Diet on point rn. 2200 cals, moderate carbs, high pro, low fat. Need to implement fasted cardio so I can have 45 minutes total cardio a day. Do 30 after each workout

 

[Slowsol]

ECA + 2-3mg rauwolscine for the a2-adrenergic receptor antagonism and it’s perfect.

Never heard of this before. Would you elaborate?

 

[Slowsol]

The Yohimbe is like taking the governor modulator off and the clen is pressing on the gas.

So the rauwolscine is yohimbine? I’m currently taking the ECA stack twice a day and would be interested to try this. What dosage should I be looking at?

 

[Meetketchup]

So the rauwolscine is yohimbine? I’m currently taking the ECA stack twice a day and would be interested to try this. What dosage should I be looking at?

Very similar in chemical structure but Raulowascine is more selective so you need less. Usually less sides too. In the ECA Stack I prefer Yohimbe though.

 

[19NorFan]

Never heard of this before. Would you elaborate?

You can think of it as a more refined yohimbine. You get all of the benefits of yohimbine without feeling cracked out (some people have this as a side).

I actually go further and don't even use regular caffeine. I use paraxanthine, which is a breakdown product of caffeine. This allows me to run the dose high, get all of the fat loss benefits of the caffeine without the sides.

This is my favorite fat loss protocol and I shred fat, seemingly day to day doing this.

Day Prior:
Last Meal at 6PM
Inject 3iu HGH SubQ at 11pm
Go to sleep

Then:
Inject 3iu HGH IM at 4am
If still tired, go back to sleep but wake up by 6pm
At 6PM Take: 500mg Paraxanthine, 25mg Ephedrine, 5mg Rauwolscine, 5mg Albuterol (optional)
Wait 30 minutes
1 Hour Fasted Cardio

Then fast for another 1.5-2 hours after that before the first meal.

 

[Slowsol]

You can think of it as a more refined yohimbine. You get all of the benefits of yohimbine without feeling cracked out (some people have this as a side).

I actually go further and don't even use regular caffeine. I use paraxanthine, which is a breakdown product of caffeine. This allows me to run the dose high, get all of the fat loss benefits of the caffeine without the sides.

This is my favorite fat loss protocol and I shred fat, seemingly day to day doing this.

Day Prior:
Last Meal at 6PM
Inject 3iu HGH SubQ at 11pm
Go to sleep

Then:
Inject 3iu HGH IM at 4am
If still tired, go back to sleep but wake up by 6pm
At 6PM Take: 500mg Paraxanthine, 25mg Ephedrine, 5mg Rauwolscine, 5mg Albuterol (optional)
Wait 30 minutes
1 Hour Fasted Cardio

Then fast for another 1.5-2 hours after that before the first meal.

Thanks man I’m definitely gonna check this out. How many times a day do you take the stack?

 

[19NorFan]

Thanks man I’m definitely gonna check this out. How many times a day do you take the stack?

During cuts, the hgh is always in there at 3-6iu/day, taken fasted. Sometimes I split it. Sometimes I just inject it at 4am where half is IM and half is sub q (this gives me faster fat oxidation window from the IM + a prolonged fat oxidation window from the subq) and then do the cardio at 6-7am.

So that's constant but as far as that type of stimulant load, I might do that one every 3 days. And that's only the early part of the day; in that stack I'll still take more ephedrine later in the day. 3 doses at 12.5mg - 25mg per dose, depending on the other stimulants involved. I cycle my stimulants, I don't just go full boar with it. Some of my fat loss stacks have no stimulants. There are different fat loss pathways, same as with anabolism.