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Advice on Mast/Primo dosage.

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I’m about a month in on a cycle of Test/Mast 400/400 and wanting to raise my dosages.

I want to raise Test to 600mg but debating if I should raise Mast to 600mg or stay at 400mg and add Primo at 200mg? The total load would be the same.

Primo is a favorite of mine and did Test/Primo 600/600 last year.

I guess I could do 400/400/400 or 600/400/400 of all 3 also. I’m not completely set on dosages, I could leave Primo out this summer but it’s so hard to not use it when I have it…

What you guys think?
 
Without the basics being noted and me asking (your overall goal: gain a bit, lean out a bit, just get better feels and overall look etc.) and not knowing what your E2 is at now, If your estrogen can support it I've been close to 600 test 400 mast 200 primo cycles and it's a wicked tight run. I say add in the primo get some labs dial in based on test and e2 data.
 
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Without the basics being noted and me asking (your overall goal: gain a bit, lean out a bit, just get better feels and overall look etc.) and not knowing what your E2 is at now, If your estrogen can support it I've been close to 600 test 400 mast 200 primo cycles and it's a wicked tight run. I say add in the primo get some labs dial in based on test and e2 data.
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Thanks, that’s probably what I will do. Goal is always to be stronger, but I also want to feel and look good so I’m staying away from the harsher drugs. My estro seem to run pretty high so I haven’t had any issues with high Mast/Primo in the past, never ran them together though.
 
BBruce said:
I’m about a month in on a cycle of Test/Mast 400/400 and wanting to raise my dosages.

I want to raise Test to 600mg but debating if I should raise Mast to 600mg or stay at 400mg and add Primo at 200mg? The total load would be the same.

Primo is a favorite of mine and did Test/Primo 600/600 last year.

I guess I could do 400/400/400 or 600/400/400 of all 3 also. I’m not completely set on dosages, I could leave Primo out this summer but it’s so hard to not use it when I have it…

What you guys think?
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Personally I would just increase mast.
 
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Wardamn said:
A little NPP or Deca makes a nice addition at our ages.
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I wish I reacted like everyone else to Deca and NPP but every time I try them my estro gets out of control and it seems like I get more sides than results. I actually started adding 60mg Deca ew to my TRT and usually I don’t need to use an AI on that Test dose but the Deca have had me use a lot more AI than I would like to use on a TRT dose.

Test/Mast/Primo seems to be those drugs I respond to the best with minimal sides.
 
WED said:
I'm interested in running a high Test/Mast cycle and see how it goes.
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Well i can tell you i went from 245 at about 15-18% BF after my winter bulk to 202 right now on a static Test/Mast/Tren cycle and am sitting at 7-9% BF right now. Very vascular and capped. Highly recommend!

As always diet and training are first but i couldn't have lost any lean mass with this cycle.

As you can see I've put on about 10-15 pounds at a lower bf after the cut
 

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My current cut, 2 weeks in was 500/600/300 Test/Primo/Mast (after 8 weeks at just 500mg/week test C. But it tanked my E2 to 18.5 so I upped the test to 550, dropped the Primo to 400 and Mast E to 150. The Test Mast dosage for you depends a lot on how it affects your E2, among other factors. But that's the one I look at the most since my Hematocrit never goes above 46-48.
 
Howitza1 said:
Well i can tell you i went from 245 at about 15-18% BF after my winter bulk to 202 right now on a static Test/Mast/Tren cycle and am sitting at 7-9% BF right now. Very vascular and capped. Highly recommend!

As always diet and training are first but i couldn't have lost any lean mass with this cycle.

As you can see I've put on about 10-15 pounds at a lower bf after the cut
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How much mast/tren were you running. Was thinking of doing something like 700/500/100 or 150 Ace. Hoping the 500 mast will mask the estrogen sides enough. If not toss in like 200 primo
 
WED said:
How much mast/tren were you running. Was thinking of doing something like 700/500/100 or 150 Ace. Hoping the 500 mast will mask the estrogen sides enough. If not toss in like 200 primo
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700 mg weekly. Test E/Mast E/Tren A

I've never had any estrogen sides but I've never had issues with it so miles may vary.
 
BBruce said:
I’m about a month in on a cycle of Test/Mast 400/400 and wanting to raise my dosages.

I want to raise Test to 600mg but debating if I should raise Mast to 600mg or stay at 400mg and add Primo at 200mg? The total load would be the same.

Primo is a favorite of mine and did Test/Primo 600/600 last year.

I guess I could do 400/400/400 or 600/400/400 of all 3 also. I’m not completely set on dosages, I could leave Primo out this summer but it’s so hard to not use it when I have it…

What you guys think?
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What did you end up going with here?
 
Wouldn’t it be more beneficial to just add in some low dose npp?

Proclatin sides according to some might be an issue with npp but not for all…..
 
RaiderStrong said:
Wouldn’t it be more beneficial to just add in some low dose npp?

Proclatin sides according to some might be an issue with npp but not for all…..
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I have both Deca and NPP on hand but I have such a hard time to dial in my estrogen on them so it’s not for me unfortunately.
 
BBruce said:
I have both Deca and NPP on hand but I have such a hard time to dial in my estrogen on them so it’s not for me unfortunately.
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It's interesting NPP perks my mentals and my "perkies" in all the wrong bad ways. When I use good deca at around 120mg or less a week I love it and feel great and even get a bit bigger with very little sides. Even as low as 100mg a week NPP sends me. Although I do throw in a pre emptive anastrozole if/when using any Deca even low dose (.5mg twice maybe 3 times a week depending on if I have primo or mast in the mix, how much test I'm using and so on).
 
BBruce said:
I’m about a month in on a cycle of Test/Mast 400/400 and wanting to raise my dosages.

I want to raise Test to 600mg but debating if I should raise Mast to 600mg or stay at 400mg and add Primo at 200mg? The total load would be the same.

Primo is a favorite of mine and did Test/Primo 600/600 last year.

I guess I could do 400/400/400 or 600/400/400 of all 3 also. I’m not completely set on dosages, I could leave Primo out this summer but it’s so hard to not use it when I have it…

What you guys think?
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Would 200 primo even be beneficial? From what I recall primo needs to be run higher to see the benefits…..
 
BBruce said:
I’m about a month in on a cycle of Test/Mast 400/400 and wanting to raise my dosages.

I want to raise Test to 600mg but debating if I should raise Mast to 600mg or stay at 400mg and add Primo at 200mg? The total load would be the same.

Primo is a favorite of mine and did Test/Primo 600/600 last year.

I guess I could do 400/400/400 or 600/400/400 of all 3 also. I’m not completely set on dosages, I could leave Primo out this summer but it’s so hard to not use it when I have it…

What you guys think?
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200 Primo isn’t going to do anything.
 

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