Acetropin IGF results

[quinn a]

this is from last time i ran orange tops at 3.3iu a day, right over 3 months in , during a blast test/tren/mast (not sure if that would affect IGF readings)

 

[Montego]

this is from last time i ran orange tops at 3.3iu a day, right over 3 months in , during a blast test/tren/mast (not sure if that would affect IGF readings)

I would recommend retesting the ace gh.

He says he'll pay for half so take him up on it.

 

[GarlicChicken]

this is from last time i ran orange tops at 3.3iu a day, right over 3 months in , during a blast test/tren/mast (not sure if that would affect IGF readings)

That's more like what I would expect from 5iu

The increased test will bring up IGF-1 marginally, unless you're a freak like mighty mouse. Then it would be in the 800's from the GH lol

 

[BombDotCom]

That's more like what I would expect from 5iu

Tren raises IGF also right?

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[GarlicChicken]

Tren raises IGF also right?

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No I'm pretty sure it just increases IGF receptor density, not actually raising IGF-1. Nandrolone increases IGF, as well as EQ, anavar, and some others. There's a lot of misconception out there about that. I'll have to dig up the study I found a long time ago on using tren E for test replacement that had info on it

 

[quinn a]

I would recommend retesting the ace gh.

He says he'll pay for half so take him up on it.

product itself or another blood test?

 

[Montego]

product itself or another blood test?

Either.

 

[lifter6973]

Provider orange tops? How much water did you put in each vial? Those are supposed to be 20IU I believe. If you only put 1 mil per vial you supposedly would be taking 6.6 IU equivalent a day.

this is from last time i ran orange tops at 3.3iu a day, right over 3 months in , during a blast test/tren/mast (not sure if that would affect IGF readings)

 

[1337gainz]

Generally curious here, and I am not at all doubting OP's ability or trying to be disrespectful, but isn't reconstituting the hgh a pretty important process? Isn't HGH pretty fragile in itself? Improperly mixing it, shaking it, or leaving it in too much heat can destroy it if I am not mistaken. Ace's HGH could be what he says it is, but can't low numbers also just simply be human error sometimes? I guess the only way to really know if to have the product tested, but ACE seems to be very confident in his product.

 

[GarlicChicken]

Generally curious here, and I am not at all doubting OP's ability or trying to be disrespectful, but isn't reconstituting the hgh a pretty important process? Isn't HGH pretty fragile in itself? Improperly mixing it, shaking it, or leaving it in too much heat can destroy it if I am not mistaken. Ace's HGH could be what he says it is, but can't low numbers also just simply be human error sometimes? I guess the only way to really know if to have the product tested, but ACE seems to be very confident in his product.

He reconstituted the other stuff fine. And every sponsor is confident in their product. Right up until there's a failed test

 

[AceLabs]

He reconstituted the other stuff fine. And every sponsor is confident in their product. Right up until there's a failed test

You won't find a dissatisfied customer of ours. I don't cheat anyone or lie about anything and we always try to do the right thing. You won't find a person anywhere who says we've ever done anything that's not been 100%.

Of course blasting sterile water or BAC water directly into an HGH vial could damage it.

I'm a little tired of having vets here accuse us of having bunk anything. I offered to pay half for a real lab test. What else should I do? What would you do?

Bones

 

[AceLabs]

product itself or another blood test?

You already have the blood test. Get a lab test. I already PM'd you and am still awaiting your reply.

Bones

 

[AceLabs]

I'm not having a go

I'm just saying this test is low.

You can justify whatever testing you've had done, that's fine, but, this test wouldn't be considered good by any means

I'm also not a sponsor. I'm a mod. I have the responsibility of educating and protecting the community.

With all due respect, you are a Super Moderator with links to 2 sponsors in your signature which implies you vouch for them and not other sponsors?

Please read this thread from ProMuscle https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/lab-results/145277-testing-my-hgh-via-blood.html

Bones

 

[Montego]

With all due respect, you are a Super Moderator with links to 2 sponsors in your signature which implies you vouch for them and not other sponsors?

Please read this thread from ProMuscle https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/lab-results/145277-testing-my-hgh-via-blood.html

Bones

And what's your point?

You think I am biased?

Or, am I commenting because this bloodwork was bad? Like I do in every thread with both bad bloods and good ones as well.

Call em how I see em fella.

 

[frank zazz]

Generally curious here, and I am not at all doubting OP's ability or trying to be disrespectful, but isn't reconstituting the hgh a pretty important process? Isn't HGH pretty fragile in itself? Improperly mixing it, shaking it, or leaving it in too much heat can destroy it if I am not mistaken. Ace's HGH could be what he says it is, but can't low numbers also just simply be human error sometimes? I guess the only way to really know if to have the product tested, but ACE seems to be very confident in his product.

He said it “you pinned it wrong” but just this shop I guess you pinned it right on the other bloods * . I’m thinking that if they need to be tested than ace needs to retest the things and update their purity numbers .

 

[AceLabs]

And what's your point?

You think I am biased?

Or, am I commenting because this bloodwork was bad? Like I do in every thread with both bad bloods and good ones as well.

Call em how I see em fella.

Ok fella.

Bones

 

[malfeasance]

Provider orange tops? How much water did you put in each vial? Those are supposed to be 20IU I believe. If you only put 1 mil per vial you supposedly would be taking 6.6 IU equivalent a day.

Orange tops are 10 iu. They have a grey top that is 15 iu.

 

[Jswole220]

You won't find a dissatisfied customer of ours. I don't cheat anyone or lie about anything and we always try to do the right thing. You won't find a person anywhere who says we've ever done anything that's not been 100%.

Of course blasting sterile water or BAC water directly into an HGH vial could damage it.

I'm a little tired of having vets here accuse us of having bunk anything. I offered to pay half for a real lab test. What else should I do? What would you do?

Bones

That’s blown out of proportion that “blasting bac water or sterile water”’will damage the high. There’s a member here who conducted several high test. Hgh reconstituted and the vial shaken vigorously, left in the heat for 30 days, reconstituted and left to sit for over a week before testing in room temperature. The only test that significantly affected the blood test was the vial left in the heat for 30 days

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You won't find a dissatisfied customer of ours. I don't cheat anyone or lie about anything and we always try to do the right thing. You won't find a person anywhere who says we've ever done anything that's not been 100%.

Of course blasting sterile water or BAC water directly into an HGH vial could damage it.

I'm a little tired of having vets here accuse us of having bunk anything. I offered to pay half for a real lab test. What else should I do? What would you do?

Bones

That’s blown out of proportion that “blasting bac water or sterile water”’will damage the high. There’s a member here who conducted several high test. Hgh reconstituted and the vial shaken vigorously, left in the heat for 30 days, reconstituted and left to sit for over a week before testing in room temperature. The only test that significantly affected the blood test was the vial left in the heat for 30 days

 

[Jswole220]

You won't find a dissatisfied customer of ours. I don't cheat anyone or lie about anything and we always try to do the right thing. You won't find a person anywhere who says we've ever done anything that's not been 100%.

Of course blasting sterile water or BAC water directly into an HGH vial could damage it.

I'm a little tired of having vets here accuse us of having bunk anything. I offered to pay half for a real lab test. What else should I do? What would you do?

Bones

Also to add I personally know two guys who no longer use your hgh because they were not satisfied with their bloods. No source here or anywhere has 100% of its customers that are satisfied so I’m not even sure why you would make that outlandish claim. I don’t believe you intentionally sell anyone what you think is less than what you advertise but obviously theirs been issues pop up from time to time with your hgh. Theirs numbers that are great and numbers like these that should probably get the man a refund. I know you do take pride in what you do and you do treat your customers well or at least you did with me I can’t speak for everyone but I think that same pride is getting in the way of your logical thinking that theirs absolutely no way you could receive a bad batch of hgh and going off of hplc test that are several months old. That hgh that was tested is not the same hgh that’s currently being sold point blank

 

[quinn a]

Im not going to split the test cost at the same lab that tested it originally, i really dont care to do that, I will be running 10IU as I finish off the 9 kits I bought. Buying that many upfront it would be ridiculous to think I didn’t have the correct BAC water on deck, this is not my first or second run with GH. I will be getting bloods again near the end of the year and will post them. I don’t understand the argument of “its good, it just doesn’t test good for a lot of people when they use it” but hey that’s the game, we are buying hormones off the internet its not a regulated process so this is always a risk.

 

[AceLabs]

Im not going to split the test cost at the same lab that tested it originally, i really dont care to do that, I will be running 10IU as I finish off the 9 kits I bought. Buying that many upfront it would be ridiculous to think I didn’t have the correct BAC water on deck, this is not my first or second run with GH. I will be getting bloods again near the end of the year and will post them. I don’t understand the argument of “its good, it just doesn’t test good for a lot of people when they use it” but hey that’s the game, we are buying hormones off the internet its not a regulated process so this is always a risk.

I will put this to rest right now. I will pay for the lab test of your vials.

Nowhere did I state “its good, it just doesn’t test good for a lot of people when they use it”.

Bones

 

[lifter6973]

3 posts? EDITED by Bones

Generally curious here, and I am not at all doubting OP's ability or trying to be disrespectful, but isn't reconstituting the hgh a pretty important process? Isn't HGH pretty fragile in itself? Improperly mixing it, shaking it, or leaving it in too much heat can destroy it if I am not mistaken. Ace's HGH could be what he says it is, but can't low numbers also just simply be human error sometimes? I guess the only way to really know if to have the product tested, but ACE seems to be very confident in his product.

 

[lifter6973]

guess it depends on who we are talking about- I believe you are talking bout IL- I am talking about The Provider- all these different colored tops- who knows whats what anymore- gonna have to put concentration on vials

Orange tops are 10 iu. They have a grey top that is 15 iu.

 

[lifter6973]

If you had the right BAC water, then you pinned it wrong- but only with this stuff- with the other GH that had higher igf1, you probably pinned it right

Im not going to split the test cost at the same lab that tested it originally, i really dont care to do that, I will be running 10IU as I finish off the 9 kits I bought. Buying that many upfront it would be ridiculous to think I didn’t have the correct BAC water on deck, this is not my first or second run with GH. I will be getting bloods again near the end of the year and will post them. I don’t understand the argument of “its good, it just doesn’t test good for a lot of people when they use it” but hey that’s the game, we are buying hormones off the internet its not a regulated process so this is always a risk.

 

[malfeasance]

guess it depends on who we are talking about- I believe you are talking bout IL- I am talking about The Provider- all these different colored tops- who knows whats what anymore- gonna have to put concentration on vials

You are correct. I was providing information relating to IL. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[AceLabs]

3 posts? EDITED

You can take that welcome to another sub-forum mate, I don't tolerate that here.

Bones

 

[lifter6973]

I get it. Apologies to gainz for being hostile without any real reason and to you for doing it on the subforum- I need to keep my sarcasm and hostility isolated to the pit. I have no 'bone' to pick with either of you Mr. Bones.

You can take that welcome to another sub-forum mate, I don't tolerate that here.

Bones

 

[Soldier3]

I'm wondering if there is a difference in igf-1 if you injected subq rather than IM? I read somewhere on another forum that the difference is slightly better subq but not too great. Can anyone verify this or is it broscience?

 

[GarlicChicken]

I'm wondering if there is a difference in igf-1 if you injected subq rather than IM? I read somewhere on another forum that the difference is slightly better subq but not too great. Can anyone verify this or is it broscience?

From my knowledge that would be broscience. Mostly because IM has slightly greater bioavailability as compared to sub-q. More bioavailability should, in theory, equal higher IGF-1 production

 

[Soldier3]

From my knowledge that would be broscience. Mostly because IM has slightly greater bioavailability as compared to sub-q. More bioavailability should, in theory, equal higher IGF-1 production

That's how I do it, IM, but I am not surprised that it does have higher bioavailability. It makes sense to me.