85lb weight loss down, ready for my first cycle (Need recomp advice)

[Jay_Keep_It_Real]

Hey everyone!

Wanted to share my progress and get some advice on setting up my first true cycle.

First, a quick background: I’ve been on TRT for 3 years. After going through a separation and a major life reset (left the corporate world, had to start over, and am now working blue-collar), I finally got my diet and discipline in check. Over the past year, I’ve been eating better, eating less (having no money helps, lol), and the weight has melted off. I've dropped 85 lbs so far.

Current Stats & Protocol:

• Age: 29
• Height: 5’9”
• Starting Weight: 280 lbs
• Current Weight: 195 lbs
• BF: 23%
• Protocol: 200mg/week Test Cyp (Pinned 100mg Monday/Thursday)
• Time on TRT: 3 years

My Goal:

I want to lean out, drop the remaining body fat (I’m not sure exactly what my BF% is right now), and fill out my frame with lean muscle. Basically, I'm going for that hard, lean look.

Since I already have a stable base with my 200mg/wk Test Cyp, what would you guys recommend for a solid beginner cycle to help with body recomposition?

 

[Sickxlost]

Hey everyone!

Wanted to share my progress and get some advice on setting up my first true cycle.

First, a quick background: I’ve been on TRT for 3 years. After going through a separation and a major life reset (left the corporate world, had to start over, and am now working blue-collar), I finally got my diet and discipline in check. Over the past year, I’ve been eating better, eating less (having no money helps, lol), and the weight has melted off. I've dropped 85 lbs so far.

Current Stats & Protocol:

• Age: 29
• Height: 5’9”
• Starting Weight: 280 lbs
• Current Weight: 195 lbs
• BF: 23%
• Protocol: 200mg/week Test Cyp (Pinned 100mg Monday/Thursday)
• Time on TRT: 3 years

My Goal:

I want to lean out, drop the remaining body fat (I’m not sure exactly what my BF% is right now), and fill out my frame with lean muscle. Basically, I'm going for that hard, lean look.

Since I already have a stable base with my 200mg/wk Test Cyp, what would you guys recommend for a solid beginner cycle to help with body recomposition?

Assuming the weight drop came from time in the gym as well as better eating habits?

Let’s say you are 23% BF there isn’t a lot that will get you that hard lean look.. just yet.

Id grind away at the cardio.. you could always add something if your just dead set on it but for the results your wanting you have to keep grinding that weight down.

Maybe add a drop of reta if that’s something your interested in…

 

[Jay_Keep_It_Real]

Assuming the weight drop came from time in the gym as well as better eating habits?

Let’s say you are 23% BF there isn’t a lot that will get you that hard lean look.. just yet.

Id grind away at the cardio.. you could always add something if your just dead set on it but for the results your wanting you have to keep grinding that weight down.

Maybe add a drop of reta if that’s something your interested in…

Might be a stupid question, would it be an option to bulk up a little more now that I have some fat and then shred? Or would you focus on dropping the weight first?

 

[dcdogz]

Might be a stupid question, would it be an option to bulk up a little more now that I have some fat and then shred? Or would you focus on dropping the weight first?

drop the weight first.

 

[Meetketchup]

Please post a physique pic. Doesn't sound like now is a good time to cycle.

 

[Jay_Keep_It_Real]

Please post a physique pic. Doesn't sound like now is a good time to cycle.

 

[Sickxlost]

Might be a stupid question, would it be an option to bulk up a little more now that I have some fat and then shred? Or would you focus on dropping the weight first?

It’s honestly whatever you’re wanting to achieve. You could go both ways. I’d say lean out a little more utilizing the fat on your body to put on some more muscle.

Lots of options for that based on where you currently are.

 

[TrojanTheGod]

I might get crucified for saying this but try 40-50mg tren e, pinned every 5 days. I got virtually no negative sides. And the recomp over 12 weeks was perfect after I personally lost 60 pounds myself. Actually lost n additional 15 pounds after tossing tren in.

My diet is incredibly dialed, I still do cardio on top of my training. This is what that test and tren can do for you though. Pure recomp

 

[Doug 64]

Personally, I think now is a good time to start a recomp and go from there. No disrespect bro, but I'd do the trim/comp before I planned any cycle. A GLP might be an excellent add to your TRT.

 

[TrojanTheGod]

Personally, I think now is a good time to start a recomp and go from there. No disrespect bro, but I'd do the trim/comp before I planned any cycle. A GLP might be an excellent add to your TRT.

I also have been on Reta since March to lose all of my weight I should add. Of course going to the gym to maintain and accelerate weight loss. 4mg/week current dose, started at 1mg

 

[Jay_Keep_It_Real]

I might get crucified for saying this but try 40-50mg tren e, pinned every 5 days. I got virtually no negative sides. And the recomp over 12 weeks was perfect after I personally lost 60 pounds myself. Actually lost n additional 15 pounds after tossing tren in.

My diet is incredibly dialed, I still do cardio on top of my training. This is what that test and tren can do for you though. Pure recomp

Bro this is actually insane! Well done mate!

 

[Wardamn]

Might be a stupid question, would it be an option to bulk up a little more now that I have some fat and then shred? Or would you focus on dropping the weight first?

Drop the weight 1st.

 

[Sickxlost]

I might get crucified for saying this but try 40-50mg tren e, pinned every 5 days. I got virtually no negative sides. And the recomp over 12 weeks was perfect after I personally lost 60 pounds myself. Actually lost n additional 15 pounds after tossing tren in.

My diet is incredibly dialed, I still do cardio on top of my training. This is what that test and tren can do for you though. Pure recomp

Tren is a fat burning machine but there is a time and place for it for sure

 

[Nood]

It’s honestly whatever you’re wanting to achieve. You could go both ways. I’d say lean out a little more utilizing the fat on your body to put on some more muscle.

I agree, push for alittle bit longer and it will be way worth it in the long run. You’re almost there, great work so far man!

 

[Wardamn]

If you don't want to cut right now then you should eat at maintenance and train like an animal for 4 months. You should not bulk and eat in a surplus.

 

[Meetketchup]

Cut, cut and cut. Not close to recomping or gaining.

 

[Jay_Keep_It_Real]

If you don't want to cut right now then you should eat at maintenance and train like an animal for 4 months. You should not bulk and eat in a surplus.

I think this is the best strategy for me right now, so you recommend staying on just the 200mg/wk cyp for the 4 months and then reevaluate?

 

[elit3keraed]

I honestly stopped reading after someone recommended tren e…


Not sure what everyone else said but if you’re dead set on another injectable that isn’t something like mast or primo, run a short acting esther. Last thing you want is to be 3-4 weeks deep on tren e. Have it finally kicking in only to realize it doesn’t work for you at all and now you’re stuck for several weeks waiting for the sides to go away.


But honestly if you’re dead set on adding anything, just increase your test dosage. You’d be amazed how much you can gain just slowly reversing out of a diet. Especially after a long term drop.


Between me and you? I’d 100% give it a few more weeks of cutting. Get real tight in the calories and get as much fat off as possible then rebound into it. It’ll give you more runway to grow before youll need to cut again.

 

[Wardamn]

I think this is the best strategy for me right now, so you recommend staying on just the 200mg/wk cyp for the 4 months and then reevaluate?

Yes, training and nutrition should be the main focus.

 

[BigManT]

Maybe add a drop of reta if that’s something your interested in…

I would second this, if you aren’t already on a GLP.

 

[Jay_Keep_It_Real]

I honestly stopped reading after someone recommended tren e…


Not sure what everyone else said but if you’re dead set on another injectable that isn’t something like mast or primo, run a short acting esther. Last thing you want is to be 3-4 weeks deep on tren e. Have it finally kicking in only to realize it doesn’t work for you at all and now you’re stuck for several weeks waiting for the sides to go away.


But honestly if you’re dead set on adding anything, just increase your test dosage. You’d be amazed how much you can gain just slowly reversing out of a diet. Especially after a long term drop.


Between me and you? I’d 100% give it a few more weeks of cutting. Get real tight in the calories and get as much fat off as possible then rebound into it. It’ll give you more runway to grow before youll need to cut again.

great advice here! Thanks man, I really appreciate it!

 

[Theotherone55]

I literally cannnnnottt with how much "recomp" discussion goes on

"I lost an additional 15lbs" "recomp"...no, thats called a diet. Again, just cuz the word tren is in there doesnt mean we can start saying recomp for everything.

 

[Jay_Keep_It_Real]

I literally cannnnnottt with how much "recomp" discussion goes on

"I lost an additional 15lbs" "recomp"...no, thats called a diet. Again, just cuz the word tren is in there doesnt mean we can start saying recomp for everything.

Shit bud, could’ve just said that. I am obviously no bodybuilder. But hey, hope you feel better!

 

[Jay_Keep_It_Real]

Shit bud, could’ve just said that. I am obviously no bodybuilder. But hey, hope you feel better!

I literally cannnnnottt with how much "recomp" discussion goes on

"I lost an additional 15lbs" "recomp"...no, thats called a diet. Again, just cuz the word tren is in there doesnt mean we can start saying recomp for everything.

And you “help men 35+ with careers and families look like bodybuilders, not dads who used to lift.” get the fuck outta here!!!

 

[Hablooblah]

And you “help men 35+ with careers and families look like bodybuilders, not dads who used to lift.” get the fuck outta here!!!

Hey man...the guy youre talking shit to is as legit as they come. Might want to check out that blue text at the bottom of his sig. Lots of dumbasses on this site, that aint 1 of em. Just friendly advice.
Apart from all that Congrats on the Weight-loss. Id keep cutting a few more months then start your push phase. Leaner the better, the more insulin sensitive the better. And FFS dont start tren e! @elit3keraed said it already but if youre deadset on adding, add a short ester, in quick out quick, easier to mitigate potential sides.

 

[Jay_Keep_It_Real]

Hey man...the guy youre talking shit to is as legit as they come. Might want to check out that blue text at the bottom of his sig. Lots of dumbasses on this site, that aint 1 of em. Just friendly advice.
Apart from all that Congrats on the Weight-loss. Id keep cutting a few more months then start your push phase. Leaner the better, the more insulin sensitive the better.

Thanks for the advice man! Honestly, I am new to this that is why I am posting here for help. I see a lot of those guys disrespecting new guys. He can go on or respectfully tell me I used the wrong term. Instead he tryna be a smartass about it and then claims he “helps” people. Nah man, have some mutual respect or go on.

 

[Theotherone55]

Thanks for the advice man! Honestly, I am new to this that is why I am posting here for help. I see a lot of those guys disrespecting new guys. He can go on or respectfully tell me I used the wrong term. Instead he tryna be a smartass about it and then claims he “helps” people. Nah man, have some mutual respect or go on.

Man, i wasn't even talking about you LOL but you do you buddy.
I'm too deep in prep to have an internet disagreement right now

 

[elit3keraed]

Thanks for the advice man! Honestly, I am new to this that is why I am posting here for help. I see a lot of those guys disrespecting new guys. He can go on or respectfully tell me I used the wrong term. Instead he tryna be a smartass about it and then claims he “helps” people. Nah man, have some mutual respect or go on.

To be fair 99% of the “disrespected new guys” don’t even deserve respect to begin with. Rarely will you see a new member get shit on for asking good questions and having adult discussions.

It’s usually the looksmaxxers taking anadrol as an “anti estrogen” and “TRT” for height or dudes coming in saying “I’m 300lbs give me a cycle and tell me why” because they’re too lazy to do the work themselves.

The number of new guys coming on, demanding we give them a cycle, hold their hand and explain everything and then basically tell us to go fuck ourselves cuz they’re going to run something totally different and suddenly know more than the collective hundreds of years of experience that they’ll get from all of us is significantly higher than the number of new guys who are genuine and just get shit on by the vets

I mean even in this case, dude wasn’t talking to you so there wasn’t disrespect there.

You asked a good question, you replied appropriately and you he only disrespect was a legit criticism of what someone else had said, not you.

 

[elit3keraed]

Hey man...the guy youre talking shit to is as legit as they come. Might want to check out that blue text at the bottom of his sig. Lots of dumbasses on this site, that aint 1 of em. Just friendly advice.
Apart from all that Congrats on the Weight-loss. Id keep cutting a few more months then start your push phase. Leaner the better, the more insulin sensitive the better. And FFS dont start tren e! @elit3keraed said it already but if youre deadset on adding, add a short ester, in quick out quick, easier to mitigate potential sides.

I’ll never understand the “run a long Esther for your first cycle” mindset. At least for 19nors. Cuz shit deca dick was fucking horrendous and it took almost 2 full months to feel remotely normal again.

Even long esthers can bite you in the ass somewhat despite responding great to short esthers…I can run the same amount of prop per week as I do cypionate but the estrogen sides on cypionate are worse. Gyno at 350mg a week of cyp but zero issue on prop.

 

[elit3keraed]

Hey man...the guy youre talking shit to is as legit as they come. Might want to check out that blue text at the bottom of his sig. Lots of dumbasses on this site, that aint 1 of em. Just friendly advice.
Apart from all that Congrats on the Weight-loss. Id keep cutting a few more months then start your push phase. Leaner the better, the more insulin sensitive the better. And FFS dont start tren e! @elit3keraed said it already but if youre deadset on adding, add a short ester, in quick out quick, easier to mitigate potential sides.

I’ll never understand the “run a long Esther for your first cycle” mindset. At least for 19nors. Cuz shit deca dick was fucking horrendous and it took almost 2 full months to feel remotely normal again.

Even long esthers can bite you in the ass somewhat despite responding great to short esthers…I can run the same amount of proper per week as I do cypionate but the estrogenic sides on cypionate are worse. Gyno at 350mg a week of cyp but zero issue on prop