Astro95 USP - Primo 100 & Masteron 200 BLIND TEST RESULTS

[yinjuju]

Absolutely great examples of people being total pussies and allowing this shit to happen with BS apologies and refunds. How many customers not on asf were proactively given refunds or apologies? My assumption is zero.

you’d like to hope if they are giving refunds they’re mass emailing these people out. I actually respect how HB handled their initial primo situation, all customers got a pop-up when they logged in and an email if they were effected. Not HB themselves considering it seems like there were other bad batches of product given out then they left, but this should be the standard practice. If you’re going to refund, don’t just give it to whatever customers “DM you” and see the forum thread. Go above and beyond and take the time and email each and every one of them and make note of everyone who should get a refund or credit.

It’s a shame this even has to be said lol

 

[Nood]

Absolutely great examples of people being total pussies and allowing this shit to happen with BS apologies and refunds. How many customers not on asf were proactively given refunds or apologies? My assumption is zero.

Don’t make assumptions that you know nothing about bro. Been a member for a very short time, We can all makes these assumptions and end up looking like assholes because we have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes. Give them time to make this right.

There already giving mass refunds and customers are keeping 5 free vials of mast.

 

[smittyville]

you’d like to hope if they are giving refunds they’re mass emailing these people out. I actually respect how HB handled their initial primo situation, all customers got a pop-up when they logged in and an email if they were effected. Not HB themselves considering it seems like there were other bad batches of product given out then they left, but this should be the standard practice. If you’re going to refund, don’t just give it to whatever customers “DM you” and see the forum thread. Go above and beyond and take the time and email each and every one of them and make note of everyone who should get a refund or credit.

It’s a shame this even has to be said lol

Wow, you are totally naive.

 

[Nood]

The amount of older, dormant alts that have become active lately is ridiculous. Or, are we supposed to believe these guys are legitimate members who were always here and for some reason, decided to start "contributing"?

Those along with new accounts that appear to just be here to stir the pot. Can’t help but laugh when you start checking members stats and see the shit that’s spewing out there mouths, like where to fuck did you come from

 

[Syntha Claus]

Those along with new accounts that appear to just be here to stir the pot. Can’t help but laugh when you start checking members stats and see the shit that’s spewing out there mouths, like where to fuck did you come from

These guys also chiming in haven’t bought, nor ever will, products from sponsors, least of all, USP.
I never bought many steroids from our sponsors, but I have patronized a few, meaning “bought” products from them.
I usually try to stay out of these threads because they don’t concern me. But I chime in for the sake of clarity because I have a decent amount of brewing and UGL experience.
Lots of people that chime into these threads are absolutely clueless on the subject.
Like saying “there should be a list” of labs that fucked people over. Clearly these posters are unaware that once these guys are discovered to be scamming, they close shop and start up immediately under another brand.
Or are we to believe that all these “new” shops are just getting started?

 

[JMT26]

Well, he claims he brews his own gear, which is not true.Because any homebrewer would send out raws that they purchase , especially if it's from an unknown source. This isn't done just to make sure that the seller hasn't been ripped off.But also to protect the consumer, who God only knows what they are injecting. If I get raws in from somebody that I have been doing business with for over a decade.I will brew and start to sell, but I will also send finished product out for testing.Just like we did with our last batch of primo.As you can see the results were picture perfect.
As you can see from one of my opening posts in this thread.I was hoping that USP was going to come out and say he is a reseller.Instead, he is taking the high road of not being fully honest, which in the long run will be his demise. Integrity is everything in this business, there are still a tremendous amount of guys that will buy from a drop shipper rather than a home brewer.
BTW my post was not directed towards you i just thought it was a good idea to quote you because more members were going to see it brother. Hope you weren't offended

so your thought was the same, the only other answer would be buying finished oils…

and nah dude, no offense taken at all. I appreciate that guys like you and marathon get upset over this kind of stuff. Shows that you are all taking an extra step to ensure things are being done right on your end - appreciate you saying that though

 

[JMT26]

It would be impossible to mistake mast raws for primo raws. You can see primo is primo immediately. Very distinctive appearance.

What I am gathering from his comments is that he doesn’t have a hand in the “domestic” line.
It has been stated that selling 200mg as 100mg primo would serve no purpose, as the cost per vial for hormones would be close. Close enough that there would be no profit/reason to do it. Maybe if you wanted to be the only lab that has primo so you dupe people with 200 mast to at least give the unknowing results.
I think the mislabeling makes sense. Things can get hectic in a lab, depending on volume and protocols/methods.
I once was bottling proviron and winstrol on the same day. A girl I knew wanted some winny and I dropped off a few bottles to her.

On the way home, it occured to me that I may have mislabeled some bottles. The way we had them laid out and were labeling, I thought that perhaps my helper might have grabbed the wrong bottles to label.
It was only about 50 for that day.
Because I wasn’t sure, I went there and threw out those bottles. There were either legit winny or legit proviron, neither would really be a problem for women at the low doses they use, but my conscience wouldnot allow me to risk this for others.
The cost of doing business is just that. Sometimes the cost and loss has to be over profit.
Trust me, the profit is so high with this (at least before the raw shortage) that losing a few bucks here and there just are part of the game.

Like when I blew through 500g of stanozolol trying to make winny suspension. I tried five times but never succeeded, even using several methods given to me by legit UGL labs.
I just gave up and passed the loss onto experience.

Like someone said, you are going to get a refund AND you get to keep vials of legit, tested Mast E.
The situation sucks but in the end, you didn’t lose $6k on a raw order where the supplier ghosted everyone for probably millions.

Yeah I didn’t/don’t think anyone mixed up raws lol - I simply don’t know and just a thought. Same as this China fiasco with Ssa/sry, people asking if they’ll be back like anyone has a single fckin clue lol. No dog in the fight so I don’t give a shit. Not my place to try and play detective. Was just a thought.

 

[Jbswole40]

AG All DAY, bro. Can't go wrong with AG.

We appreciate that bro.

 

[Jbswole40]

AG All DAY, bro. Can't go wrong with AG.

We appreciate that bro.

 

[Sector.]

We appreciate that bro.

we appreciate you bro

 

[JMT26]

we appreciate you bro

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[Marathon]

It's not about sales bro, it's about keeping the board legit. There are only a group of sponsors that will speak up and say what is really going on here. If Marathon was trying to increase sales he would put a special in these threads, which he never did. The people speaking up are actually the ones that are trying to protect you brother. When shit like this happens it damages the entire board. I think we all can agree we want to see asf grow not decrease and to be honest with you, without guys like marathon sponsors would be getting away with murder here.
In reality all of these home brewers have probably doubled in sales since all of this bullshit started over a month ago anyway.

Couldn't have said it any better myself. I have enough on my plate already, I post in these threads as a member who happens to have extensive knowledge of the industry. I definitely don't need the sales, and neither do you I'm sure. But you still have some people who are absolutely clueless, who want to make me out to be the bad guy. Probably the same ones sitting on a stash of gear with 100 different color tops and no clue wtf is inside the vials

 

[thebiggestdumbass]

Clearly these posters are unaware that once these guys are discovered to be scamming, they close shop and start up immediately under another brand.

This is the crazy part. And the people posting about it wouldn’t even see the similarities in branding if you spelled it out for then

 

[Jbswole40]

we appreciate you bro

Had to make sure this isnt a sponsor thread & i hope @Astro95
Doesn't mind ,so Azteca gold will reimburse any testing done on our compounds ..we also give store credit for blood work.

 

[Syntha Claus]

Couldn't have said it any better myself. I have enough on my plate already, I post in these threads as a member who happens to have extensive knowledge of the industry. I definitely don't need the sales, and neither do you I'm sure. But you still have some people who are absolutely clueless, who want to make me out to be the bad guy. Probably the same ones sitting on a stash of gear with 100 different color tops and no clue wtf is inside the vials

I see you guys posting simply because these kinds of things shit all over everybody. They create distrust that casts a cloud over every vendor, regardless of some being long standing, credible labs.

As I mentioned before, my interest is mostly to shed a light on some of the things that I would expect, most buyers would not know about.

Using myself for an example, when I started selling shit in Mexico, as expected, most people figured it was just another bullshit, fake or under dosed brand, meaning that the long run of scammers had jaded the entire "industry" there.
It took a very long time to overcome that and to justify the significantly more expensive costs than every other bullshit Mexican brand.
Covid struck and I got out, but the experience lingers in my mind.

I would have thought that the raw shortage would have presented us with even better products, albeit a a significantly higher (justifiably so). Vendors would have stepped up, made it clear that although the prices increased, the adherence to quality would stay the same, if not increase. Instead, we have seen a pretty big uptick in dodgy products, intentional or "accidental".

I would hope going forward, all sponsors would have their finished products tested before presenting for sale...ALL batches. I know it is a PITA and will delay profits, but I think it would be worth it for everyone.

I will tell you one thing for sure, my whole "If I don't make it, I don't take it" thing has taken a new level of meaning and significance for me. If only I could get raws as easily as before.
I am about to go natural it seems...

 

[Marathon]

I see you guys posting simply because these kinds of things shit all over everybody. They create distrust that casts a cloud over every vendor, regardless of some being long standing, credible labs.

As I mentioned before, my interest is mostly to shed a light on some of the things that I would expect, most buyers would not know about.

Using myself for an example, when I started selling shit in Mexico, as expected, most people figured it was just another bullshit, fake or under dosed brand, meaning that the long run of scammers had jaded the entire "industry" there.
It took a very long time to overcome that and to justify the significantly more expensive costs than every other bullshit Mexican brand.
Covid struck and I got out, but the experience lingers in my mind.

I would have thought that the raw shortage would have presented us with even better products, albeit a a significantly higher (justifiably so). Vendors would have stepped up, made it clear that although the prices increased, the adherence to quality would stay the same, if not increase. Instead, we have seen a pretty big uptick in dodgy products, intentional or "accidental".

I would hope going forward, all sponsors would have their finished products tested before presenting for sale...ALL batches. I know it is a PITA and will delay profits, but I think it would be worth it for everyone.

I will tell you one thing for sure, my whole "If I don't make it, I don't take it" thing has taken a new level of meaning and significance for me. If only I could get raws as easily as before.
I am about to go natural it seems...

Very well said, one bad apple ruins the bunch. Think of how many people read these threads that do not post, then leave and never come back because of these half ass labs fucking over anyone and everyone. It brings down the entire forum.

 

[Syntha Claus]

Yeah I didn’t/don’t think anyone mixed up raws lol - I simply don’t know and just a thought. Same as this China fiasco with Ssa/sry, people asking if they’ll be back like anyone has a single fckin clue lol. No dog in the fight so I don’t give a shit. Not my place to try and play detective. Was just a thought.

Well, I wish they'd come back. Six grand to a company that had been around and solid for years, then dis-a-fucking-peared. My biggest leap of faith to date, so I guess I can count myself lucky.
I am afraid of even buying peptides now from any of these outfits. The prices are amazing and I have people making many, many inquiries back at home. But even losing a couple of grand would sting, in light of my experiences from January.

 

[GainzMaverick]

@Astro95 and @Andrewgen_Receptors seem like fine young lads. Been lurking here for about 10 days and finally wanted say how nice it is to see this as a new member.

 

[Sector.]

Well, I wish they'd come back. Six grand to a company that had been around and solid for years, then dis-a-fucking-peared. My biggest leap of faith to date, so I guess I can count myself lucky.
I am afraid of even buying peptides now from any of these outfits. The prices are amazing and I have people making many, many inquiries back at home. But even losing a couple of grand would sting, in light of my experiences from January.

Yeah QSC went down in nov/dec

Sry and SSA just arrested. A lot of other China vendors laying low right now, still a couple shipping but I wouldn’t trust it either

Word is SSA and sry used the same manufacturer and that the manufacturer was involved with AAS and the manufacturer got raided and shut down too

And there’s probably less than 5 total manufactures in China so that’s really bad news. The rest are just middlemen

I wouldn’t trust anything right now either

 

[Jbswole40]

Yeah QSC went down in nov/dec

Sry and SSA just arrested. A lot of other China vendors laying low right now, still a couple shipping but I wouldn’t trust it either

Word is SSA and sry used the same manufacturer and that the manufacturer was involved with AAS and the manufacturer got raided and shut down too

And there’s probably less than 5 total manufactures in China so that’s really bad news. The rest are just middlemen

I wouldn’t trust anything right now either

Alot of info there..who r u lol..
Just fn w ya bro..

 

[Sector.]

Alot of info there..who r u lol..
Just fn w ya bro..

 

[FearsomeCOR]

it’s gonna forever be more than just a 50/50 risk.

With a little proper vetting of your source it should absolutely not be these terrible of odds…

 

[lefty556]

Funny how its never masteron getting mislabeled and getting sent out with 100mg/ml primo in the vial. If truly mislabeling human errors, we'd see that just as common as what we are seeing now.

But it's telling its always one sided on the more expensive item getting replaced with the cheaper of the two.

 

[US-pharmacies]

Hello everyone
I see the thread is taking on a life of its own. I just wanted to give an update and let you know that I’m here as well, observing everything. To summarize, each of you has a point, but only I know what the situation really was and how it came about — of course, also after my little investigation, which I had to do to find out why masteron got mixed with primo.As I mentioned, many circumstances contributed to this, but the main problem was human error and haste. I don’t agree with what the colleague above wrote, that it’s always masteron being mixed with primo, because what’s happening now with raws depends only on sources, how much they cost, and how hard they are to get.But I’ll tell you one thing — if I wanted to give masteron at a 200 mg dose instead of 100 mg primo, it would not have been profitable for me business-wise. That’s a fact, and a few people have already mentioned it here.I don’t want to whitewash anything — it was still a mistake, and it’s our fault — but it was not intentional
Best regards
USP

 

[Omoplata]

Hello everyone
I see the thread is taking on a life of its own. I just wanted to give an update and let you know that I’m here as well, observing everything. To summarize, each of you has a point, but only I know what the situation really was and how it came about — of course, also after my little investigation, which I had to do to find out why masteron got mixed with primo.As I mentioned, many circumstances contributed to this, but the main problem was human error and haste. I don’t agree with what the colleague above wrote, that it’s always masteron being mixed with primo, because what’s happening now with raws depends only on sources, how much they cost, and how hard they are to get.But I’ll tell you one thing — if I wanted to give masteron at a 200 mg dose instead of 100 mg primo, it would not have been profitable for me business-wise. That’s a fact, and a few people have already mentioned it here.I don’t want to whitewash anything — it was still a mistake, and it’s our fault — but it was not intentional
Best regards
USP

Consistency and accountability. You’re not Fletcher, lol.

 

[WED]

Consistency and accountability. You’re not Fletcher, lol.

Honestly think we see this multiple times since the H&B fall out.

If you're a sponsor and fuck up, don't be heavily aggressive and attacking towards anyone bring a concern, not a complete and utter dick, then defend said dick....you get a decent bit of leeway

 

[snood]

Loved how fletcher was all “the truth will come out and you all are going to look like fools when it does”. Interesting look in to the human psychology. Just completely fucking lie your ass off and attack people to try and make it go away. He truly thought that would work. “Wait, wait guys. Fletcher is yelling at me and telling me I’m dumb. We should just not test anything and believe him”.


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[Lustyscripps]

Loved how fletcher was all “the truth will come out and you all are going to look like fools when it does”. Interesting look in to the human psychology. Just completely fucking lie your ass off and attack people to try and make it go away. He truly thought that would work. “Wait, wait guys. Fletcher is yelling at me and telling me I’m dumb. We should just not test anything and believe him”.


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I swear everytime I see that cunts name it makes my blood boil. What a cocksucking piece of shit. Fuck him

 

[Inkniron87]

Just wanna say I received email this mornjng from the man saying refund was sent and had the transaction id. I did in fact receive it this morning. Communication has been great through the entire thing and I gotta respect that and the fact that he honored his word. Goes a long way on how things are handled. I’m sure the rest of you will be getting a similar email, so heads up. Thanks again us-pharmacy

 

[Vee]

Got my refund as well! Just a few minutes ago! This was professionally handled and in a timely fashion. I think they are a good company still, and I gotta get my hands on that overdosed Mast E lol