Astro95 USP - Primo 100 & Masteron 200 BLIND TEST RESULTS

[Adi77x1]

I'll tell you right now the tren gold color will be tumeric

No MCT oil will be used either. Probably CSO instead (curry seed oil)

 

[sebLight80]

I'll tell you right now the tren gold color will be tumeric

Built in anti inflammatory properties. Genius.


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[JMT26]

To give USP the benefit, I don’t think the owner intentionally tried to dupe anyone with Mast…. I think his brewer/labeler is a complete turd and fucked him. If I was going to scam, I’m not doing it with the 2nd most expensive compound on the market. My opinion, the owner got dicked multiple times for entrusting the wrong person. He paid for mast raws, had mast raws brewed, now is giving refunds ON MAST because someone is a fool…

My opinion, everyone gonna bitch about a refund, get one, then enjoy the free mast and extra gear…. (And before people start complaining about “I didn’t get what I paid for”, I get that. So, those who got the mislabeled primo, what’s your plans with those vials?)

 

[MBW212]

Trusting India as a source for raws is worse than trusting China. Shifty, shady, unscrupulous, backstabbing, cut-throat, cunty “business-men”, if thats what you wanna call them. They’ll kiss your baby on the cheek, while sticking a knife in your back…. If India is the last resort, we’re all in trouble

Also, Dhalsim was the WORST fucking character from Street Fighter. From India, of course.

Ain’t that the truth

 

[YeahYou808]

I’m a gay guy pretending to be a women whose pretending to be a straight man

 

[US-pharmacies]

Hello again,


I hope I can give a general explanation to everyone because there’s really a lot to cover. I’ll start by saying that what happened has nothing to do with fraud, and there was never any intention to deceive. People who have worked with me or are currently working with me know what the purpose of our work has always been — quality first, and the client.


We ourselves encouraged people to conduct tests. Moreover, I personally didn’t pay anyone to prove the quality of this brand, which is the most important thing to me. If I wanted to cheat someone, I probably wouldn’t encourage them to test the products; moreover, we ourselves paid for the user to conduct the blind test — that was the purpose of this project.


What happened was a series of events that coincided over about two weeks. I can’t go into details here — I’m sure you understand why — because some of the things are very sensitive and need to be handled delicately. I will say that it was purely a human error over which I had no control, and as I repeat, a series of factors came together.


The result was a labeling error for one product, as is evident from the tests that were released. The entire batch of Primo Depot from the US domestic stock was withdrawn because mistakes occurred there. Please do not confuse this with international shipments — all of those products I make myself from scratch, and I have 20 years of experience in this.

I’ll go further — at this stage, all products we produce are made by us, including GH, peptides, tablets, and oils. I will soon publish fresh raw test results. Everything I have has been tested with Jano for many years. Over the past six months, we have conducted about 100 tests for this brand, including 10 HGH tests and 10 HCG tests. These tests were performed from stock without any interference or manipulation to eliminate any doubts that it could have been done intentionally for public perception, which is why the vials were sent without caps. My representatives can confirm this, and the results are published in our section — I’ll add that they came out excellent.


This is how much I care about this brand, and likewise, I care about the people here, because I know how it is nowadays when access to substances is limited and product quality is declining. Everyone in the community knows and agrees — I’ve been cheated on quality dozens of times, which is why I encourage testing and support people in this regard. Fake products must be eliminated. We pay for what we want to get, and this principle is what the brand was founded on.


I also understand people who are very upset about this situation. I myself would be extremely frustrated. Honestly, I am very frustrated too because I know how much work I put into this and what my approach is. On top of that, I am currently traveling and have limited access to the internet, which is why my response is delayed — I apologize, but this was beyond my control. I’ll be back on Tuesday, everyone will receive their refunds, and the rest have already been given options for exchanges or store credit. Everything is already in progress and will be 100% corrected.


Once again, I want to apologize to everyone on the forum and to the people who work with me, who also suffered because of this error, as they were signing off on it. The mistake happened, it was unintentional, and it will be corrected. I will make extra effort to ensure this never happens again. Once the new batch of Primo arrives in the US domestic stock, I will restart blind testing of this product, because my commitment to quality has not changed.


Best regards to you all, and have a great day.

 

[Fat Mike01]

imagine that. same product as everyone else. shit happens. My only concern is, where is that MArathon guy. He usually in these threads going on a rage trashing the seller and selling his products

 

[Skylerjohnson1996]

imagine that. same product as everyone else. shit happens. My only concern is, where is that MArathon guy. He usually in these threads going on a rage trashing the seller and selling his products

I got you @Marathon where ya at

 

[302]

I got you @Marathon where ya at

He’s out golfing with SB and Nood

 

[SB Labs]

To give USP the benefit, I don’t think the owner intentionally tried to dupe anyone with Mast…. I think his brewer/labeler is a complete turd and fucked him. If I was going to scam, I’m not doing it with the 2nd most expensive compound on the market. My opinion, the owner got dicked multiple times for entrusting the wrong person. He paid for mast raws, had mast raws brewed, now is giving refunds ON MAST because someone is a fool…

My opinion, everyone gonna bitch about a refund, get one, then enjoy the free mast and extra gear…. (And before people start complaining about “I didn’t get what I paid for”, I get that. So, those who got the mislabeled primo, what’s your plans with those vials?)

You don't get it. He is not a home brewer he has nothing to do with buying raws. Home brewers do not sell WORLDWIDE. Go look at these menus Stada, Marathon, Azteca and us then look at his. The home brewers are a tight knit community that most would like to be associated with but can't. If you or anyone else needs further assistance just tag me here.

 

[Skylerjohnson1996]

e’s out golfing with SB and Nood

 

[Christoph3Robin]

imagine that. same product as everyone else. shit happens. My only concern is, where is that MArathon guy. He usually in these threads going on a rage trashing the seller and selling his products

Been waiting for this as well

 

[Skylerjohnson1996]

You don't get it. He is not a home brewer he has nothing to do with buying raws. Home brewers do not sell WORLDWIDE. Go look at these menus Stada, Marathon, Azteca and us then look at his. The home brewers are a tight knit community that most would like to be associated with but can't. If you or anyone else needs further assistance just tag me here.

You can definitely tell the difference like IKEA mass made furniture and the guy who personally makes his furniture big difference

 

[Nood]

He’s out golfing with SB and Nood

This is to fuckin funny

 

[Nood]

Double post

 

[JMT26]

You don't get it. He is not a home brewer he has nothing to do with buying raws. Home brewers do not sell WORLDWIDE. Go look at these menus Stada, Marathon, Azteca and us then look at his. The home brewers are a tight knit community that most would like to be associated with but can't. If you or anyone else needs further assistance just tag me here.

I think you got confused on what I was saying. I haven’t bought USP. I run @Marathon gear brotha…

He seems to insist he buys raws. If that’s the case, I was just giving my opinion that my thought was the guy who brewed/labeled his gear was most likely a turd… I just can’t imagine why he’d purposely sell mast as primo. I have heard of people getting mast raws when they ordered primo raws. What would be your thoughts on how/why this would occur?

 

[SB Labs]

I think you got confused on what I was saying. I haven’t bought USP. I run @Marathon gear brotha…

He seems to insist he buys raws. If that’s the case, I was just giving my opinion that my thought was the guy who brewed/labeled his gear was most likely a turd… I just can’t imagine why he’d purposely sell mast as primo. I have heard of people getting mast raws when they ordered primo raws. What would be your thoughts on how/why this would occur?

Well, he claims he brews his own gear, which is not true.Because any homebrewer would send out raws that they purchase , especially if it's from an unknown source. This isn't done just to make sure that the seller hasn't been ripped off.But also to protect the consumer, who God only knows what they are injecting. If I get raws in from somebody that I have been doing business with for over a decade.I will brew and start to sell, but I will also send finished product out for testing.Just like we did with our last batch of primo.As you can see the results were picture perfect.
As you can see from one of my opening posts in this thread.I was hoping that USP was going to come out and say he is a reseller.Instead, he is taking the high road of not being fully honest, which in the long run will be his demise. Integrity is everything in this business, there are still a tremendous amount of guys that will buy from a drop shipper rather than a home brewer.
BTW my post was not directed towards you i just thought it was a good idea to quote you because more members were going to see it brother. Hope you weren't offended

 

[Syntha Claus]

I think you got confused on what I was saying. I haven’t bought USP. I run @Marathon gear brotha…

I have heard of people getting mast raws when they ordered primo raws. What would be your thoughts on how/why this would occur?

It would be impossible to mistake mast raws for primo raws. You can see primo is primo immediately. Very distinctive appearance.

What I am gathering from his comments is that he doesn’t have a hand in the “domestic” line.
It has been stated that selling 200mg as 100mg primo would serve no purpose, as the cost per vial for hormones would be close. Close enough that there would be no profit/reason to do it. Maybe if you wanted to be the only lab that has primo so you dupe people with 200 mast to at least give the unknowing results.
I think the mislabeling makes sense. Things can get hectic in a lab, depending on volume and protocols/methods.
I once was bottling proviron and winstrol on the same day. A girl I knew wanted some winny and I dropped off a few bottles to her.

On the way home, it occured to me that I may have mislabeled some bottles. The way we had them laid out and were labeling, I thought that perhaps my helper might have grabbed the wrong bottles to label.
It was only about 50 for that day.
Because I wasn’t sure, I went there and threw out those bottles. There were either legit winny or legit proviron, neither would really be a problem for women at the low doses they use, but my conscience wouldnot allow me to risk this for others.
The cost of doing business is just that. Sometimes the cost and loss has to be over profit.
Trust me, the profit is so high with this (at least before the raw shortage) that losing a few bucks here and there just are part of the game.

Like when I blew through 500g of stanozolol trying to make winny suspension. I tried five times but never succeeded, even using several methods given to me by legit UGL labs.
I just gave up and passed the loss onto experience.

Like someone said, you are going to get a refund AND you get to keep vials of legit, tested Mast E.
The situation sucks but in the end, you didn’t lose $6k on a raw order where the supplier ghosted everyone for probably millions.

 

[Marathon]

imagine that. same product as everyone else. shit happens. My only concern is, where is that MArathon guy. He usually in these threads going on a rage trashing the seller and selling his products

Sorry, I've been too busy serving all my new customers. I'll let SB take the reigns on this one

 

[Marathon]

It would be impossible to mistake mast raws for primo raws. You can see primo is primo immediately. Very distinctive appearance.

This I can agree on though, I have already been fucked with mast p raws that were supposed to be primo. I knew as soon as I opened the package I knew it was not primo. The only difference is, it will be sold as mast p from my shop and not primo like some others here on asf

 

[Oakley6575]

The only difference is, it will be sold as mast p from my shop and not primo like some others here on asf

That seems fair.

 

[smittyville]

Well, he claims he brews his own gear, which is not true.Because any homebrewer would send out raws that they purchase , especially if it's from an unknown source. This isn't done just to make sure that the seller hasn't been ripped off.But also to protect the consumer, who God only knows what they are injecting. If I get raws in from somebody that I have been doing business with for over a decade.I will brew and start to sell, but I will also send finished product out for testing.Just like we did with our last batch of primo.As you can see the results were picture perfect.
As you can see from one of my opening posts in this thread.I was hoping that USP was going to come out and say he is a reseller.Instead, he is taking the high road of not being fully honest, which in the long run will be his demise. Integrity is everything in this business, there are still a tremendous amount of guys that will buy from a drop shipper rather than a home brewer.
BTW my post was not directed towards you i just thought it was a good idea to quote you because more members were going to see it brother. Hope you weren't offended

This 100 percent. .It boggles my mind how the users on this site are so willing to take some BS mea culpa, and let these clowns off the hook. There's another well known seller who also recently had a botched situation. But everyone seems to think he's such a good guy by providing refunds.

This should be one strike and you're out.

 

[SB Labs]

imagine that. same product as everyone else. shit happens. My only concern is, where is that MArathon guy. He usually in these threads going on a rage trashing the seller and selling his products

It's not about sales bro, it's about keeping the board legit. There are only a group of sponsors that will speak up and say what is really going on here. If Marathon was trying to increase sales he would put a special in these threads, which he never did. The people speaking up are actually the ones that are trying to protect you brother. When shit like this happens it damages the entire board. I think we all can agree we want to see asf grow not decrease and to be honest with you, without guys like marathon sponsors would be getting away with murder here.
In reality all of these home brewers have probably doubled in sales since all of this bullshit started over a month ago anyway.

 

[smittyville]

It's not about sales bro, it's about keeping the board legit. There are only a group of sponsors that will speak up and say what is really going on here. If Marathon was trying to increase sales he would put a special in these threads, which he never did. The people speaking up are actually the ones that are trying to protect you brother. When shit like this happens it damages the entire board. I think we all can agree we want to see asf grow not decrease and to be honest with you, without guys like marathon sponsors would be getting away with murder here.
In reality all of these home brewers have probably doubled in sales since all of this bullshit started over a month ago anyway.

Here is a serious suggestion.There should be a forum or a list that is maintained of all the guys that got caught with their pants down. Whether they made good to clean up the mess isn't important. It would be a running list of documented incidents that anyone could reference. That would be a huge deterrent, because any new user would instantly see a bunch of negative experiences and know who to avoid.

 

[Sector.]

Agree with SB

Short term, source mess up might net sales for other sources with a longer track record, as people switch to those sources

Longer term, it hurts every source here if there’s constant mess ups and credibility goes out the window. People might be less inclined to trust the board or other sources on the board if there’s constant problems and errors or scams

I mean there was the apex fiasco, then H&B fiasco, now this with primo and mast “mixup”. Eventually the mess ups will hurt the ones that are doing things right

 

[smittyville]

Agree with SB

Short term, source mess up might net sales for other sources with a longer track record, as people switch to those sources

Longer term, it hurts every source here if there’s constant mess ups and credibility goes out the window. People might be less inclined to trust the board or other sources on the board if there’s constant problems and errors or scams

I mean there was the apex fiasco, then H&B fiasco, now this with primo and mast “mixup”. Eventually the mess ups will hurt the ones that are doing things right

I'm not going to name names and get in trouble. But you're missing 2 prominent sponsors.

 

[Sector.]

I'm not going to name names and get in trouble. But you're missing 2 prominent sponsors.

Most likely I haven’t really kept track of it all. Just seems to be a lot of errors

 

[Nobodyishere]

Agree with SB

Short term, source mess up might net sales for other sources with a longer track record, as people switch to those sources

Longer term, it hurts every source here if there’s constant mess ups and credibility goes out the window. People might be less inclined to trust the board or other sources on the board if there’s constant problems and errors or scams

I mean there was the apex fiasco, then H&B fiasco, now this with primo and mast “mixup”. Eventually the mess ups will hurt the ones that are doing things right

dont forget Farmaton (Fletcher/h&b), aspen, juice daddy, world of roids

Ummmm who else was there

 

[yinjuju]

You guys being soft on sources is why we’re in the this situation. Dutch has been fucking people for who knows how long and everyone’s cool with a few refunds and some sorries.

Buying UGL gear shouldn’t be 50/50, ever. Start airing out sources with bad testing, floaters, and whatever other issues arise and I guarantee we’ll see an uptick in quality sources that send what they advertise.

every source at one point or another has faked a product here and there. I would put money on it. Some more than others

illegal unregulated drugs on the internet, unless there’s multiple people anonymously testing every product from every source at all times it will forever be an issue. you take the risk by injecting Chinese raw materials on the internet, it’s gonna forever be more than just a 50/50 risk. just because a source has 1000 good logs and 1000 good tests doesn’t mean they’re still safe, you’re taking a gamble no matter what. That’s just the sad reality. Also the raw materials themselves nowadays are untrustworthy. And no source is testing every raw materials they receive even if they say they are.

 

[smittyville]

Yeah

every source at one point or another has faked a product here and there. I would put money on it. Some more than others

illegal unregulated drugs on the internet, unless there’s multiple people anonymously testing every product from every source at all times it will forever be an issue. you take the risk by injecting Chinese raw materials on the internet, it’s gonna forever be more than just a 50/50 risk.

Absolutely great examples of people being total pussies and allowing this shit to happen with BS apologies and refunds. How many customers not on asf were proactively given refunds or apologies? My assumption is zero.