How long should I run a cycle

[Novice882]

Hi all new to the community and I have been lifting for around 2 and a half years been taking test E for year and half of my bodybuilding journey and the last 6mths have up the dose to 250mg a week..I Have just got some test c and Decca with dbol also, would it be a good stack as I'm aware that dbol can have side affects as all the roids do but will it be enough to just use Decca and test c for straight size, I'm planning on running test c 300-600mg per week and Decca 300mg per week with one tablet of dbol 20.... total cycle 16 weeks then down one week and repeat...I'm 43 height 175cm weight 90kg...I eat alot of chicken rice, vegetables, and beef...any tips do's and don'ts would be greatly appreciated as it's my first run with Decca, and dbol....cheers

 

[Nood]

Stick to 12 weeks, Save the Deca and Dbol and just up the test 300-400 week. See how your body reacts and get bloods 6 weeks in and check estrogen to see if an AI is needed. Do to much at once and you won’t know how to handle the situation when it occurs

 

[Novice882]

Hi nood thanks for the information mate, as I've taken test E before hand I've started test c for now(300mg) and will add the dbol and Decca later on that was my first initial thought but thanks for confirming my strategy....

 

[Wiseguy]

I would keep it at 12 weeks max like Nood said. Drop Dbol after 6 weeks. Test at 400 is plenty. Blood work to make sure your estrogen is ok mid cycle. Also, you mention one week off and back at it again? Bad idea. Rule is time on equals time off. Need to give your body time to rest and recover. Final blood work 4 weeks after end of cycle to make sure your values are back to normal. Good luck.

 

[Meetketchup]

I would keep it at 12 weeks max like Nood said. Drop Dbol after 6 weeks. Test at 400 is plenty. Blood work to make sure your estrogen is ok mid cycle. Also, you mention one week off and back at it again? Bad idea. Rule is time on equals time off. Need to give your body time to rest and recover. Final blood work 4 weeks after end of cycle to make sure your values are back to normal. Good luck.

Great advice as always from WG, but time on = time off isn't the best indicator for recovery or when to start the next cycle. You go by blood work and blood work only. Some people take MUCH longer than the time on/off metric. Small minor detail.

 

[AA Solutions]

I might be misunderstanding, you have been on trt for a year, and increased that dose to 250 for 6months - And now you are considering a cycle with a total of 1gram of gear per week?

Do you plan on going completely off or cruising on trt after your cycle?

 

[Wiseguy]

Great advice as always from WG, but time on = time off isn't the best indicator for recovery or when to start the next cycle. You go by blood work and blood work only. Some people take MUCH longer than the time on/off metric. Small minor detail.

Agree my friend. I always get the bloods about 4 weeks after and like to stay off everything (with exception of trt) just to give the body a nice rest.

 

[George212]

Hi all new to the community and I have been lifting for around 2 and a half years been taking test E for year and half of my bodybuilding journey and the last 6mths have up the dose to 250mg a week..I Have just got some test c and Decca with dbol also, would it be a good stack as I'm aware that dbol can have side affects as all the roids do but will it be enough to just use Decca and test c for straight size, I'm planning on running test c 300-600mg per week and Decca 300mg per week with one tablet of dbol 20.... total cycle 16 weeks then down one week and repeat...I'm 43 height 175cm weight 90kg...I eat alot of chicken rice, vegetables, and beef...any tips do's and don'ts would be greatly appreciated as it's my first run with Decca, and dbol....cheers

One tab of dbol ?? Not sure for the Ed or the whole week? Which brands are you using I’m looking to do the same type of thing since I beeon trt for the past 3-4 years now I was doing 360 a week of test Cyp never used dbol or Deca bc Deca will stay ur system for a while 19 nor idk maybe be just try test npp primo first dbol I want to try or anavar but not sure how to use the yet !10 mg of dbol am and 10 at night for 20 mg a day or less to try or something like that I hate to guess bc whale nit ever done it or been on it coached by any one so ! It’s too costly for me to pay a cia h and buy stuff too !!

 

[Novice882]

Hi man the plan was too use dbol 20 twice a day but I think it's a trail an error to see how the body responds as we all different as the sides can vary, like alot of the pro's have said in the past,...I have reinziel dbol and reinziel Decca and the test c is nexnos all is the hype ATM....your dose of test is good maybe bump it up to 400 per week and I've been told that at my age 43 and the duration that I've already been on with the test I should be doing 600mg a week and 300 Decca plus the dbol 20 X 2 a day.....but don't take my word for it as like I said we are all different, I did do the dbol X 2 a day 300 Decca and 300 test to see how my body responds and I'm all fine but like noob said if you do all these at once and run into issues it's hard to eliminate what's at fault.

 

[Novice882]

I might be misunderstanding, you have been on trt for a year, and increased that dose to 250 for 6months - And now you are considering a cycle with a total of 1gram of gear per week?

Do you plan on going completely off or cruising on trt after your cycle?

Hi mate yes been on trt for year and half (test E)and increased the dose to 250 mg a week yeh I'm planning on cruising on trt dose or sustanon to keep gains, but I was told buy the guy I get the gear from to do 16 weeks on and a week down,( taking 300 Decca 600 test c a week and dbol 20 X 2 a day, so I was assuming he means one week break then back on it again which I thought was absolutely not viable considering the body needs to bounce back and fully recover. I do planning on getting bloods done to make sure everything is fine. Thanks for the information and help everyone....much appreciated.

 

[AA Solutions]

Hi mate yes been on trt for year and half (test E)and increased the dose to 250 mg a week yeh I'm planning on cruising on trt dose or sustanon to keep gains, but I was told buy the guy I get the gear from to do 16 weeks on and a week down,( taking 300 Decca 600 test c a week and dbol 20 X 2 a day, so I was assuming he means one week break then back on it again which I thought was absolutely not viable considering the body needs to bounce back and fully recover. I do planning on getting bloods done to make sure everything is fine. Thanks for the information and help everyone....much appreciated.

I think you might be better off asking here on the board than listening to "a guy at the gym", I don't know him but his advice sounds a bit off to me. And it makes a significant difference whether he's just doing his own thing and giving you advice based on what he has done, or if he's actually a coach and understands that people have different goals and timeframes.

Going from 250 to 600mg test a week is a significant increase in itself and will give you a solid boost. And you get the chance to see how you react to a higher dose of test without interference from other compounds.

Unless you have a very specific reason to be in a rush, take it step by step. Do a test only cycle, take bloods and figure out how your body responds - Take a break and make sure your values are good, then consider adding another compound next time.

 

[Novice882]

I think you might be better off asking here on the board than listening to "a guy at the gym", I don't know him but his advice sounds a bit off to me. And it makes a significant difference whether he's just doing his own thing and giving you advice based on what he has done, or if he's actually a coach and understands that people have different goals and timeframes.

Going from 250 to 600mg test a week is a significant increase in itself and will give you a solid boost. And you get the chance to see how you react to a higher dose of test without interference from other compounds.

Unless you have a very specific reason to be in a rush, take it step by step. Do a test only cycle, take bloods and figure out how your body responds - Take a break and make sure your values are good, then consider adding another compound next time.

Completely agree with you, that's why I joined this community, I think, we'll I know you guys are very knowledgeable on what to do etc so it's very valuable information and advice and much appreciated...yeh I was getting the impression that even though I know he is a gym freak and been doing it for a while I also get the feeling he is just trying to push for me to buy more gear etc, but telling me to do a 16 week cycle with test, Decca and dbol then down for a week then resume was a red flag for me hence why I joined this community... thanks heaps mate...

 

[Wardamn]

Hi mate yes been on trt for year and half (test E)and increased the dose to 250 mg a week yeh I'm planning on cruising on trt dose or sustanon to keep gains, but I was told buy the guy I get the gear from to do 16 weeks on and a week down,( taking 300 Decca 600 test c a week and dbol 20 X 2 a day, so I was assuming he means one week break then back on it again which I thought was absolutely not viable considering the body needs to bounce back and fully recover. I do planning on getting bloods done to make sure everything is fine. Thanks for the information and help everyone....much appreciated.

"one week break" . That should do it. Lol.

 

[Novice882]

Hi guys I got some bloods done and my liver and kidneys are fine my total testosterone is at 209 and my estrogen is way up at 344 is that something to be concerned about.? I don't really have any signs of high estrogen, only sign would be I get a bit anxious or irritable sometimes but that's just a side effect of taking juice which is very manageable...note I used to get anxious and short fused before I was taking peds so its hard to say.

 

[zwhit]

Lol, yes that's a huge concern. Your estrogen is way too high and test is way too low. Are you not using trt now? Were you actually on Dr. prescribed trt before cycling? How long have you been off? So much going on here.

You must feel like a mess with those numbers and losing gains. You need to get your test up and estrogen down. Either get back on your dr. prescribed trt/AI or get on an AI and get that estrogen down and hope your test eventually bounces back.

Retest in another 4-6 weeks and with the sensitive e2 test this time.

 

[Novice882]

Hi sorry I must have gotten it mixed up that would be 209 free testosterone, I still take 500mg test a week with 250 Decca. I was thinking about ai but slot guys say it can crash your estrogen and also have bad sides etc so I don't know what to do. I will post the blood test and a previous test so you can see the difference....cheers.

 

[Novice882]

In the pic where it sez total testosterone is way lower than free so I was under the impression that total was always a lower number.

 

[Novice882]

This is the latest test the other pics was done in November last year.