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Now I've been using tirzepatide at 2.5mg for a few months and I started trt a month after. I feel great but I had crashed my estrogen a month ago using primo. My diet is in check and I hit the gym 5 days a week my cholesterol is fucked I have low test for some reason 222 to be exact. I read that tet can raise cholesterol in people with low test. But with the tirz I'd expect it to be better my hdl55 total cholesterol is 256 and ldl is 199 what the fuck ima stop trt and check my blood in a month or so.
 
Cholesterol is one of the most misunderstood elements of health of all time in my opinion. It has been incorrectly taught to be an indicator of CVD risk and is one of the most vital components of human health.

While it is certainly true you want a higher HDL, your LDL is not an indicator of risk whatsoever. LDL range levels have been consistently lowered by influence of pharma to sell more statins… plain and simple. All current thought as it pertains to LDL came from epidemiology data which can’t see the forest through the trees so to speak.

You will find a slew of cardiologists, heart surgeons, and even brain surgeons who understand the vital role. Simply YouTube search cholesterol myth and you’ll find hundreds of informational videos on the subject, but I’ll summarize for you below.

Cholesterol is so much more than just a number on a blood test—it’s actually a hugely important molecule that helps keep our bodies running smoothly. It’s essential for making vitamin D (which supports bone health, mood, and immunity), and it’s the building block for key hormones like testosterone, estrogen, and cortisol. Cholesterol also helps form bile acids so we can properly digest fats and absorb those fat-soluble vitamins (A, D, E, and K). At the cellular level, it’s a cornerstone of our cell membranes, keeping them sturdy and functional, and it’s especially critical in our brains—helping with nerve insulation, communication, and overall cognitive function. Plus, it’s involved in the immune response by traveling to areas of inflammation and even binding to certain pathogens. We often hear about “good” and “bad” cholesterol (HDL versus LDL), but really, they’re just different types of transport vehicles for cholesterol, both serving important roles in the body.


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Eating a good amount of healthy fats? You didn’t mention anything about cardio? Cardio would make a huge impact
 
Nood said:
Eating a good amount of healthy fats? You didn’t mention anything about cardio? Cardio would make a huge impact
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Yes I eat well try to eat nothing but healthy fats I occasionally eat Red meat and get some saturated fat but nothing major. And I also do cardio before working out as well as I'm a conductor/engineer for the railroad so I walk and get active pretty frequent throughout the week. I also am donating blood once a month to manage RBC and I heard doing that can also help lower total cholesterol.
 
BigMatt said:
Yes I eat well try to eat nothing but healthy fats I occasionally eat Red meat and get some saturated fat but nothing major. And I also do cardio before working out as well as I'm a conductor/engineer for the railroad so I walk and get active pretty frequent throughout the week. I also am donating blood once a month to manage RBC and I heard doing that can also help lower total cholesterol.
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Cardio like heart rate above 120-130 for 20-30min? If your doing that before your workout I’d move it to after so your not wearing your self out. For supplement you Can take fish oil, cq10 and citrus bergamot.
 
Nood said:
Cardio like heart rate above 120-130 for 20-30min? If your doing that before your workout I’d move it to after so your not wearing your self out. For supplement you Can take fish oil, cq10 and citrus
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I shoot for the 150s for my heart rate. And yes 2k mg a day fishoil. I also recently ordered some of that bergamot as i learned of it a few days ago.
 
Over read the fact that you were on primo.. how long? Usually takes 6-8 weeks for bloods to recover. What was your cholesterol pre-trt? Everyone is different my Hdl is usually 44 was before trt and still is
 
Nood said:
Over read the fact that you were on primo.. how long? Usually takes 6-8 weeks for bloods to recover. What was your cholesterol pre-trt? Everyone is different my Hdl is usually 44 was before trt and still is
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I took it for 6 weeks and stopped about a month ago.
 
BigMatt said:
Yes I eat well try to eat nothing but healthy fats I occasionally eat Red meat and get some saturated fat but nothing major. And I also do cardio before working out as well as I'm a conductor/engineer for the railroad so I walk and get active pretty frequent throughout the week. I also am donating blood once a month to manage RBC and I heard doing that can also help lower total cholesterol.
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Stop arbitrarily donating blood.
It isn't healthy or necessary to just do it just because you're taking gear.
Once a month is way too often.

You do not want to alter the quality of blood components. Youre fast tracking your way to anemia.

There's many reasons why rbc can be high. Its also not always an indicator of a health problem.
 
BigMatt said:
Yes I eat well try to eat nothing but healthy fats I occasionally eat Red meat and get some saturated fat but nothing major. And I also do cardio before working out as well as I'm a conductor/engineer for the railroad so I walk and get active pretty frequent throughout the week. I also am donating blood once a month to manage RBC and I heard doing that can also help lower total cholesterol.
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I eat 2+ lbs of red meat every day and have for many years. Saturated fat is not only healthy, it is the healthiest fat available.

Similarly to the demonizing of cholesterol, I really wish folks would understand the fallacy that saturated fat is any shape or form “unhealthy”.

Humans have solely preferred saturated fat since the beginning of time… we literally evolved to the state we currently exist as a result of getting better at hunting and obtaining saturated fat.


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Red meat is mostly monosaturated fat. If you want to talk about our ancestors, who ate deer, elk, and bison, wild, that grazed on grass, were much leaner meat than the fattened cattle we eat today.

Although I agree you shouldn't be so concerned about cholesterol levels. These studies are mostly funded by pharmaceutical companies pushing statin drugs, which are basically only say "look these people are unhealthy, must be their cholesterol." Correlation is not causation. I remember one study funded by the AHA that basically went to peoples houses doing surveys that asked them what they ate. Since most people eat eggs, they correlated that the cholesterol in eggs causes heart disease. ScIeNcE.

Many studies showing extremely low ldl causes higher mortality rates. But the Jeff Nippard lovers will say otherwise.
 
Battousai said:
Red meat is mostly monosaturated fat. If you want to talk about our ancestors, who ate deer, elk, and bison, wild, that grazed on grass, were much leaner meat than the fattened cattle we eat today.

Although I agree you shouldn't be so concerned about cholesterol levels. These studies are mostly funded by pharmaceutical companies pushing statin drugs, which are basically only say "look these people are unhealthy, must be their cholesterol." Correlation is not causation. I remember one study funded by the AHA that basically went to peoples houses doing surveys that asked them what they. Since most people eat eggs, they correlated that the cholesterol in eggs causes heart disease. ScIeNcE.

Many studies showing extremely low ldl causes higher mortality rates. But the Jeff Nippard lovers will say otherwise.
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Agreed, however - regardless of the “fattier” state of our current cattle, there is still not a single causal link one can point to for any amount of saturated fat and CVD.


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MidWest said:
Agreed, however - regardless of the “fattier” state of our current cattle, there is still not a single causal link one can point to for any amount of saturated fat and CVD.


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I definitely don't think it does. I just like to eat as lean as possible to keep my digestability up because of the amount of food I eat, and it also keeps me looking leaner. You can still eat red meat but with good choices like leaner cuts that are trimmed of fat. Round eye is my go to, or if getting ground beef I stick to 96/4.
 
Battousai said:
I definitely don't think it does. I just like to eat as lean as possible to keep my digestability up because of the amount of food I eat, and it also keeps me looking leaner. You can still eat red meat but with good choices like leaner cuts that are trimmed of fat. Round eye is my go to, or if getting ground beef I stick to 96/4.
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I stay in ketosis so I focus on 80/20 ground and the fattiest cuts such as chuck and ribeye, but on that front to each their own.


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Battousai said:
Red meat is mostly monosaturated fat. If you want to talk about our ancestors, who ate deer, elk, and bison, wild, that grazed on grass, were much leaner meat than the fattened cattle we eat today.

Although I agree you shouldn't be so concerned about cholesterol levels. These studies are mostly funded by pharmaceutical companies pushing statin drugs, which are basically only say "look these people are unhealthy, must be their cholesterol." Correlation is not causation. I remember one study funded by the AHA that basically went to peoples houses doing surveys that asked them what they ate. Since most people eat eggs, they correlated that the cholesterol in eggs causes heart disease. ScIeNcE.

Many studies showing extremely low ldl causes higher mortality rates. But the Jeff Nippard lovers will say otherwise.
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Thank you brother
 
Modern standards for "Healthy" cholesterol levels are total SHIT, skewed on purpose to sell drugs to people who don't need them.
Its not the individual HDL/LDL #s that matter, its the RATIO... much like test and E2.

Don't get me started on GLP-1s, the junkies will lynch me. Smfh

Don't fuck with your THYROID.

Support your thyroid and let it do its job.

 
Fletcher said:
Modern standards for "Healthy" cholesterol levels are total SHIT, skewed on purpose to sell drugs to people who don't need them.
Its not the individual HDL/LDL #s that matter, its the RATIO... much like test and E2.

Don't get me started on GLP-1s, the junkies will lynch me. Smfh

Don't fuck with your THYROID.

Support your thyroid and let it do its job.

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Yeah we dont need to detoxify. If youre not then you need to see a dr immediately because your liver and kidneys are failing

We dont carry loads of toxins
 
D3vilson said:
Yeah we dont need to detoxify. If youre not then you need to see a dr immediately because your liver and kidneys are failing

We dont carry loads of toxins
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I dont know why that is a response to anything I said... but its funny you say "snake oil" bc GLP-1s are literally venom peptides.

Not here to argue, the Darwin effect is always at play. 😉
 
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Fletcher said:
I dont know why that is a response to anything I said... but its funny you say "snake oil" bc GLP-1s are literally venom peptides.

Not here to argue, the Darwin effect is always at play. 😉
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The supplement you posted is what I'm referring to. It's snake oil.

No not from snake venom. exadin 4 is a hormone similar to the hormone glp1 found in humans. It was originally found in a gila monsters venom.
Not sure your point. We discover and isolate things all the time. Did you know water is also found in their venom?
What we currently have is synthetic glp1
 
D3vilson said:
The supplement you posted is what I'm referring to. It's snake oil.

No not from snake venom. exadin 4 is a hormone similar to the hormone glp1 found in humans. It was originally found in a gila monsters venom.
Not sure your point. We discover and isolate things all the time. Did you know water is also found in their venom?
What we currently have is synthetic glp1
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Whatever you say 🤷 sure, why not? 🤦
 
D3vilson said:
The supplement you posted is what I'm referring to. It's snake oil.

No not from snake venom. exadin 4 is a hormone similar to the hormone glp1 found in humans. It was originally found in a gila monsters venom.
Not sure your point. We discover and isolate things all the time. Did you know water is also found in their venom?
What we currently have is synthetic glp1
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Theres water in Draino too, I dont recommend injecting it. 😄

Lets do it this way...
Name 2-3 sources of medical info that you trust to make decisions regarding what you do or don't intake/utilize.
 
"Snake oil"... 😐

Iodine is one of the most common nutrient deficiencies and is estimated to affect 35–45% of the world's population.Aug 24, 2022
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According to the World Health Organization (WHO), iodine deficiency can cause a range of health issues, including:

Brain damage:

Iodine deficiency is the main cause of brain damage in children, and can lead to impaired cognitive and motor development.

Hypothyroidism:

Iodine deficiency can lead to hypothyroidism, which is when the thyroid gland doesn't produce enough thyroid hormones.

Goiter:

Iodine deficiency can cause the thyroid gland to enlarge, which can lead to a bulge in the neck.

Reduced growth:

Iodine deficiency can lead to reduced growth.


Intellectual disability:

Iodine deficiency can lead to severe intellectual disability. 😉

The WHO recommends that all food-grade salt be fortified with iodine to help prevent iodine deficiency. The WHO also recommends that adults and adolescents consume 150 micrograms of iodine per day.

Other ways to address iodine deficiency include:
Monitoring iodine levels in salt and the iodine status of the population
Creating a network of resource laboratories to provide technical support to national laboratories
Raising awareness about the importance of iodine through World Iodine Deficiency Day, which is observed annually on October 21

Iodine is essential because it's a key component of thyroid hormones, which control many important functions in the body:

Metabolism:

Iodine helps control the body's metabolism.
Brain and bone development: Iodine is essential for proper brain and bone development during pregnancy and infancy.


Growth and energy use:

The body uses thyroid hormones for growth and energy use.
Heart rate and digestion: Thyroid hormones control the rate of heartbeats and digestion.
Iodine deficiency can cause serious problems, including:
Stunted growth: In young children, iodine deficiency can cause stunted growth.

Goiter:

In adults, iodine deficiency can cause an enlarged thyroid gland, also known as a goiter.

Hypothyroidism:

When the thyroid gland doesn't work as well as it should, it's called hypothyroidism. Symptoms include fatigue, joint pain, and fertility issues.

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Iodine overview for health professionals. Research health effects, dosing, sources, deficiency symptoms, side effects, and interactions here.
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"Snake oil"...

The thyroid gland produces and releases two hormones: thyroxine (T4) and triiodothyronine (T3). These hormones work together to regulate many bodily functions, including:
Metabolism
Energy levels
Body temperature
Weight
Skin, hair, and nail growth
Muscle and bone health
Brain development
The pituitary gland controls how much T4 and T3 the thyroid produces by releasing thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH). When TSH levels are high, it means the body doesn't have enough thyroid hormone, and when TSH levels are low, it means the body has too much.
The body gets iodine from certain foods, and in developed countries, iodine is added to table salt to ensure people have enough to make thyroid hormones.
Blood tests can measure thyroid levels and assess how well the thyroid is working. These tests include: Total T4 (thyroxine) test, Free T4 (FT4) test, Total T3 (triiodothyronine) test, Free T3 (Ft3) test, and Thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH) test.
 
D3vilson said:
People harp on how pharma is evil and just wants money but push snake oil.
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I agree especially on things like blood pressure meds. Saves lives in this sport but is somehow demonized as “big pharma”

Just take the pill and save your kidneys if you want to blast??
 
I don't have an issue with bp meds bit I do have an issue with statins. Some of the most toxic shit you can put on your body and it does absolutely nothing to lower mortality rates. It can actually even increase risks of heart attack because it depletes coq10.
 

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