Drug User/Dealer vs AAS User/Dealer

[Ninjas4Trump]

I’ll start by acknowledging my bias: I am an avid anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) user. I don’t use other recreational drugs like crack, cocaine, or marijuana. I don’t smoke, vape, and I rarely drink. I guess this shapes my perspective, but I believe there is a significant distinction between AAS use and the use or distribution of hardcore drugs.

Whenever I read about a steroid dealer being arrested, a small part of me feels sympathy. These individuals are often fulfilling a need created by the inaccessibility or high cost of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), helping people improve their lives or health. In stark contrast, when I hear about a meth or crack dealer being arrested, I feel no pity. These substances devastate communities, and the individuals involved often contribute to violence and broader criminal activity. I believe they should face the maximum penalty under the law.

This creates a strange dichotomy for me. On one hand, we like to believe that justice is blind and all crimes are treated equally. But in reality, they aren’t—and they shouldn’t be. A steroid dealer, typically a nonviolent individual meeting a demand for performance enhancement or therapeutic gaps, shouldn’t be viewed or punished the same way as someone profiting from addiction and societal harm. It’s a complex issue, but I believe the law must reflect these nuances.

This stark contrast is why I struggle when I see steroid dealers arrested and sentenced as though they’re comparable to those dealing crack or meth. While their actions are technically illegal, their motivations and impacts are vastly different. I’m not justifying breaking the law, but I do believe that anabolic steroid use and distribution exist in a gray area that doesn’t align with the same criminality associated with harder drugs.

Ok, rant over. Oh and before I forget, there's nothing wrong with a little of weed so please don't come for me...lol.

 

[Kpaul]

Somebody is getting really deep here....lol.

I whole heartedly agree with you one hundred and one percent agree!

 

[tommygunz]

A law is a law.
Just because you like one and not the other doesn’t mean anything.

 

[Ninjas4Trump]

Lol.... today is philosophical Sunday.

I wrote that piece because I’ve been thinking about a young man recently arrested at a local gym for selling anabolic steroids to an undercover cop. He’s in his late 20s, a typical gym bro, and someone I know personally as a kind and genuine person.

The whole situation feels unnecessary. It was a large sting operation, and I can’t help but feel resources could have been better used tackling more serious crimes. While I understand the legalities, it’s disheartening to see someone like him targeted, especially when he wasn’t hurting anyone. It just seems like a misplacement of priorities.

Somebody is getting really deep here....lol.

I whole heartedly agree with you one hundred and one percent agree!

 

[Ninjas4Trump]

A law is a law.
Just because you like one and not the other doesn’t mean anything.

I appreciate your perspective, and you’re absolutely right that personal feelings about a law don’t change its existence or enforceability. My intention wasn’t to suggest that laws should be ignored or selectively applied, but rather to encourage a conversation about proportionality and the prioritization of enforcement.

Specifically, I believe the use and distribution of AAS shouldn’t be a major priority for law enforcement. When we have more severe crimes happening in our communities—ones that pose significant risks to public safety—it’s worth questioning whether focusing on something like this is the best use of resources.

It’s not about liking or disliking a law; it’s about ensuring our efforts address the most pressing issues in a way that truly benefits society.

 

[aimanabolic]

Too many words, not enough pictures. Maybe I'll come back and read it once I'm fully awake.

 

[Kpaul]

Fuck, now that poor kid has a record. For what? Meanwhile the libtards allow our borders to be raided by hard core criminals

 

[tommygunz]

Fuck, now that poor kid has a record. For what? Meanwhile the libtards allow our borders to be raided by hard core criminals

“Poor kid”
SMH

 

[Kpaul]

We have two borders.
Nobody ever mentions the northern one.

Do you know how many outlaw maple syrup dealers stream across there everyday?

Lol...I used the word borders, plural. Never made a distinction between the northern or southern one.

 

[Glycomann]

It seems like the AAS using community is nearly self regulating. Bad UGLs get exposed pretty quickly. The drugs themselves are pretty safe to the point where some users inject grams and grams a week for over a decade before any severe health issues. Others use modestly for a lifetime and live long lives. Many many AAS users are over-achievers and successful in life especially compared to users of other illicit drugs. I think those points make AAS use very different compared to other illicit drug use.

 

[tommygunz]

OMG

The same Chinks making AAS are making Fentanyl

Are you really that naive?

 

[KrossOut]

It’s not about liking or disliking a law; it’s about ensuring our efforts address the most pressing issues in a way that truly benefits society.

Speeding. The amount of effort they put into catching people driving too fast vs the benefit to society.

 

[KrossOut]

OMG

The same Chinks making AAS are making Fentanyl

Are you really that naive?

No no. This is about the benevolent drug dealers. The ones that are just doing it to keep the rest of us healthy.

 

[Meetketchup]

Boils down to this: What people choose to put into their bodies is nobody else's business. Whether it be steroids, heroin, alcohol, cocaine, whatever. Most drug users of all kinds are functioning adults. A drug dealer is simply providing the drug to the demand of the user. It's not under any force. How about we put the responsibility on the user for once?

As with anything we hear about the minority not being able to handle it. Legalizing abolishes need for cartels due to the user buying the product from well tested sources, which I hate any government intervention but it's a reality can be regulated for purity as any other drug and taxed to cover the costs of addiction if needed. No more fentanyl deaths or OD'ing on misleading or badly cut stuff.

But it's really about freedom of choice. Some people simply don't want it and would rather have some 70-year-old in Congress or the Senate tell them what they can and cannot do. F that.

 

[Veneficus]

Unless an activity is directly violating the rights to life, or property of another person, it should not be illegal. Period.
If I want to take stuff to make me physically better than I could be naturally and I'm only risking my own health, the government has no right to punish me for it. Likewise if some crack head wants to kill themselves with crack, that's on them. Only if they steal or assault someone to get their drugs, should they be punished. And if their drug use makes them unhealthy and kills them, that's on them. No tax money should be used to help them. You take the drug, you pay the consequences. If you die, tough luck.

 

[Kpaul]

Chinks, huh?

So much for making America gracious again

OMG

The same Chinks making AAS are making Fentanyl

Are you really that naive?

 

[tommygunz]

Boils down to this: What people choose to put into their bodies is nobody else's business. Whether it be steroids, heroin, alcohol, cocaine, whatever. Most drug users of all kinds are functioning adults. A drug dealer is simply providing the drug to the demand of the user. It's not under any force. How about we put the responsibility on the user for once?

As with anything we hear about the minority not being able to handle it. Legalizing abolishes need for cartels due to the user buying the product from well tested sources, which I hate any government intervention but it's a reality can be regulated for purity as any other drug and taxed to cover the costs of addiction if needed. No more fentanyl deaths or OD'ing on misleading or badly cut stuff.

But it's really about freedom of choice. Some people simply don't want it and would rather have some 70-year-old in Congress or the Senate tell them what they can and cannot do. F that.

That’s all fine, but the reality is WE still end up paying for it.

 

[aimanabolic]

Okay I read it all, I agree with your view 100%

 

[tommygunz]

Chinks, huh?

So much for making America gracious again

I’m glad someone around here can read
My bad

 

[Disarm]

One is to alter mood, perception and consciousness

The other, aesthetics

Both are against the law in many places, but I do not view them as being less or more

It would be like comparing a protein shake to junk food. Junk food has no value truly to health and can cause many issues that lead to death and yet people keep eating it. A protein shake offers great benefits, but when used in the wrong way or even in excess can absolutely cause health issues, and some being irreversible

Those that are caught with AAS know the risks. It is just like driving home at 130mph every day on a busy road. Some day, some time, you just won't make it.

 

[Ninjas4Trump]

No no. This is about the benevolent drug dealers. The ones that are just doing it to keep the rest of us healthy.

The benevolent drug dealer. Now that's rich.

 

[Meetketchup]

That’s all fine, but the reality is WE still end up paying for it.

I'm an anarcho-capitalist as I don't believe in gov't, but we live in reality and the most logical situation is legalization at the moment. Alternative? How's the drug war working for us?

One is to alter mood, perception and consciousness

The other, aesthetics

Both are against the law in many places, but I do not view them as being less or more

It would be like comparing a protein shake to junk food. Junk food has no value truly to health and can cause many issues that lead to death and yet people keep eating it. A protein shake offers great benefits, but when used in the wrong way or even in excess can absolutely cause health issues, and some being irreversible

Those that are caught with AAS know the risks. It is just like driving home at 130mph every day on a busy road. Some day, some time, you just won't make it.

Yeah, using your analogy then... eating junk food is a choice, correct? So is everything else we put in our bodies. What you or I consider to be unacceptable with no value or unnecessary shouldn't impact the legality of something. Maybe someone else disagrees. I doubt have the hubris to think I know what's best for everyone including you. And there are idiots in here who are certainly impacting their health which could lead to serious conditions and early death. That's on them.

 

[tommygunz]

One is to alter mood, perception and consciousness

Spoken like an experienced tren user

 

[Kpaul]

I’m glad someone around here can read
My bad

Not for long.....Come Monday, January 20, 2025, all that weak shit stops.

 

[aimanabolic]

Yeah, using your analogy then... eating junk food is a choice, correct?

I literally compare sugar/sweets to drugs.

They aren't healthy, they are addictive, and they can literally rewire the brain.

 

[tommygunz]

But it's really about freedom of choice. Some people simply don't want it and would rather have some 70-year-old in Congress or the Senate tell them what they can and cannot do. F that.

We have to stop putting those people on our tax funded payroll.

 

[Ninjas4Trump]

This I can get behind...I agree

We have to stop putting those people on our tax funded payroll.

 

[tommygunz]

I'm an anarcho-capitalist as I don't believe in gov't, but we live in reality and the most logical situation is legalization at the moment. Alternative? How's the drug war working for us?

There’s many variations of this around the country/world and I’m not versed on it with the exception of cannabis. As long as there are 50 opinions being enforced instead of one central guideline, it’s impossible to draw a conclusion on legalization.

The “drug war” was lost before it started.

 

[tommygunz]

@Ninjas4Trump

Serious question.
Who really buys AAS from a 20yr old except cops lol

 

[Kpaul]

I’m glad someone around here can read
My bad

Just love the use of the word "Chink."

Was so gracefully used.