Yes,.... I am reiterating this again that you have proven to be a great group of guys. Some may have some very unhelpful thoughts and personal opinions and then there are those who have actually showed there out to help others. I am looking for the opinions and advice of those who have been respectful and helpful along our journey into the world of ASF. Heres my question(s)
I haven't really been able to find much info on HOW gyno is started and know that some can have gyno no matter what and yes...... there bitch tits as many have said. I know that my mother growing up was on drugs and don't know if anything she could have been doing or if it has anything to do with family genetics etc. Growing up was shit..... pure shit, physically, sexually, and emotionally abused for numerous years by the step dad (you know how the story goes). Many times growing up Id have to walk or ride my bike half a day if I wanted to get anywhere or go to friends etc so my legs have ALWAYS been massive, like gross massive in my opinion. Pants suck, some boots suck because of calve muscles etc...... I have always lifted some times heavier than others and have always had the love handles (smaller) and a layer of fat on the underside of my pecs. This is where many are thinking its all in your diet and exercise you idtiot....... Keep low blows in your head please. I am wondering if there are some of us out there with body types where you just don't get a six pack or you can get big as hell but you will never have that rock hard ripped up shredded look.
I really started using AAS in 07 after I was injured and medically discharged from the military. My knee had been jacked up and then the surgeons screwed up the surgery leaving me with nerve damage. Back to diet and exercise thoughts. If any of you have served you know how vigorous and demanding basic can be and then you get to your unit and for me it was even more. I was in an absolute bad ass platoon but with horrible leadership ultimately costing me two very close buddies. While even in the army I was a "thinner" person probably pushing 200 and I'm 5'8". All the time pt test were way above other 2 mins 86 sit-ups and 2 mins 110 pushups, I was a fucking animal. But yet again, never a six pack and always a layer of fat on the underside of my pecs. Legs solid as ever, I was a tank on the bottom side.
After getting out and running AAS I was able to build more muscle up top but never really got the "look" I was wanting. So that what when I started dabbling in the AAS world to make the gains. With all of this being said while on a cycle I deffinately get the the bulk in size, arms on average now are about a 16-17 and get maybe close to an 18 when on cycle but never really CUT. What I am wondering is are there others out there that have similar body types?? I can diet on the most strict diet known to man with a solid workout but that lower peck fat never leaves and the six pack never shows up for the party. My upper pecks get hard as hell but the lower man, it drives me nuts. So maybe overall I have been running the wrong cycles? The wrong gear? Bad sources, the list could go on and on but I can absolutely say that diet and exercise have been on point.
So with this ask away, give advice, thoughts, whatever you would like but all I ask is that you respect the fact that I am attempting to reach out to those who have happily lent a hand into your ASF world. Maybe Im not the only one with a body type like this? Or maybe I have just been running the wrong cycles. Who knows but hoping you can possibly shed some light with your thoughts.
Current stats before this cycle gets started is 5'8" 230 and I'm guessing about 15% bf if I had to venture a guess. Lower body is completely solid, arms, shoulders back are all solid but little fat on the abs and pecks....
I haven't really been able to find much info on HOW gyno is started and know that some can have gyno no matter what and yes...... there bitch tits as many have said. I know that my mother growing up was on drugs and don't know if anything she could have been doing or if it has anything to do with family genetics etc. Growing up was shit..... pure shit, physically, sexually, and emotionally abused for numerous years by the step dad (you know how the story goes). Many times growing up Id have to walk or ride my bike half a day if I wanted to get anywhere or go to friends etc so my legs have ALWAYS been massive, like gross massive in my opinion. Pants suck, some boots suck because of calve muscles etc...... I have always lifted some times heavier than others and have always had the love handles (smaller) and a layer of fat on the underside of my pecs. This is where many are thinking its all in your diet and exercise you idtiot....... Keep low blows in your head please. I am wondering if there are some of us out there with body types where you just don't get a six pack or you can get big as hell but you will never have that rock hard ripped up shredded look.
I really started using AAS in 07 after I was injured and medically discharged from the military. My knee had been jacked up and then the surgeons screwed up the surgery leaving me with nerve damage. Back to diet and exercise thoughts. If any of you have served you know how vigorous and demanding basic can be and then you get to your unit and for me it was even more. I was in an absolute bad ass platoon but with horrible leadership ultimately costing me two very close buddies. While even in the army I was a "thinner" person probably pushing 200 and I'm 5'8". All the time pt test were way above other 2 mins 86 sit-ups and 2 mins 110 pushups, I was a fucking animal. But yet again, never a six pack and always a layer of fat on the underside of my pecs. Legs solid as ever, I was a tank on the bottom side.
After getting out and running AAS I was able to build more muscle up top but never really got the "look" I was wanting. So that what when I started dabbling in the AAS world to make the gains. With all of this being said while on a cycle I deffinately get the the bulk in size, arms on average now are about a 16-17 and get maybe close to an 18 when on cycle but never really CUT. What I am wondering is are there others out there that have similar body types?? I can diet on the most strict diet known to man with a solid workout but that lower peck fat never leaves and the six pack never shows up for the party. My upper pecks get hard as hell but the lower man, it drives me nuts. So maybe overall I have been running the wrong cycles? The wrong gear? Bad sources, the list could go on and on but I can absolutely say that diet and exercise have been on point.
So with this ask away, give advice, thoughts, whatever you would like but all I ask is that you respect the fact that I am attempting to reach out to those who have happily lent a hand into your ASF world. Maybe Im not the only one with a body type like this? Or maybe I have just been running the wrong cycles. Who knows but hoping you can possibly shed some light with your thoughts.
Current stats before this cycle gets started is 5'8" 230 and I'm guessing about 15% bf if I had to venture a guess. Lower body is completely solid, arms, shoulders back are all solid but little fat on the abs and pecks....
