I really want to love its such a great compound, ran it for a year from 100mg to 600mg, sometimes throwing in some NPP laso and no issues so I thought, then I learned it was what was giving me nipple sensitivity not the e2 boogyman I thought it was, finally discovered caber fixed it so it must of been my issue, I am really prone to prolactin issues especially high dosages (of any compound really) but deca was the first to do this nipple thing to me, my nipple got so hard and sensitive I thought I had gyno, something a bit strange when I finally went off my joints started to ache but it quickly went away, so I have a theory that I believe it is making people think its relieving their joint issues cause they go off and then feel the aches then they think they need to stay on it. so like I said I want it to work for me so I do plan to give NPP a solid go and just have caber on hand one day, I think it will be a good bulk.