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Hello and welcome to my first log on the site. I'm 6'1 (185cm), 29 years old and have been running anabolics since I was 23. I've competed naturally and was close to competing enhanced but covid put a stop to it. I've used Test E, Deca, Dianabol and Proviron (only one week). So will give a little bit of a background:

When shows were cancelled due to covid I stopped training, got a gf and couldn’t stop eating. I’m an all or nothing guy so when I eat like that I see no reason in training as progress is only hindered, looking back though I’ve basically wasted my prime.
I got back into the gym in March, weighing around 250lbs as your average dad bod basically. I’d been on 125mg since 2020 but in April I decided to blast. I opted for 500mg test e and 250mg deca. I enjoyed my blast a lot and got stronger than I ever was, even having not trained in 5 years. Should I have done this? Probably not but it motivated me to train hard and make the progress I have today. However this lengthly dieting phase ensures I won't be getting that fat again.

These pictures are from the peak of that bulk at 276lbs:

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I maintained that weight for around 5-6 weeks before deciding it was time to cut down. So at the end of October I started my diet and continued to run 125mg test e per week - one injection per week.

I came on this forum looking for advice and got what I needed in being told not to run tren to try to recomp and just to diet hard and that is going well so far. I implemented retatrutide at .5mg per week 3 weeks ago and since have dropped around 5lbs. I'm weighing in at 235lbs today and will probably run weekly check ins on here.

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I've no idea why those pictures look so big, apologies.

I had bloods pulled 2 weeks ago, unfortunately 3 days after my 125mg pin, I had to travel a long way but the test was free so can't complain. They messed up the red blood cell test so don't have results for that. My blood pressure is 109/73 and BPM is 71.

Urea (BUN): 6.2 mmol/L → ~17.4 mg/dL (US ref: 7-20 mg/dL)
Creatinine: 124 µmol/L → ~1.40 mg/dL (US ref: 0.74-1.35 mg/dL for adult males; often 0.7-1.3)
eGFR: 60 mL/min/1.73m² (same units; US ref: >90 normal, 60-89 mild decrease)
Sodium: 140 mmol/L (same; ref: 135-145 mEq/L)
Potassium: 4.3 mmol/L (same; ref: 3.5-5.0 mEq/L)
Bilirubin (total): 8 µmol/L → ~0.47 mg/dL (ref: 0.1-1.2 mg/dL)
ALT: 15 U/L (same; ref: 7-56 U/L)
Alkaline Phosphatase (ALP): 95 U/L (same; ref: 44-147 U/L)
GGT: 14 U/L (same; ref: 9-48 U/L)
Albumin: 38 g/L → 3.8 g/dL (ref: 3.5-5.0 g/dL)
Cholesterol (total): 6.4 mmol/L → ~247 mg/dL (ref: <200 desirable)
Triglycerides: 1.2 mmol/L → ~106 mg/dL (ref: <150 mg/dL)
HDL: 0.8 mmol/L → ~31 mg/dL (ref: >40-60 mg/dL desirable)
LDL: 5 mmol/L → ~193 mg/dL (ref: <100 optimal, <130 near optimal)
Chol:HDL Ratio: 7.7 (ref: <5 desirable)
LH: <0.3 U/L (same IU/L; ref: 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL)
FSH: <0.3 U/L (same; ref: 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL)
Prolactin: 160 mU/L → ~7.6 ng/mL (ref: 4-15.2 ng/mL)
Estradiol (E2): 366 pmol/L → ~100 pg/mL (ref: 10-40 pg/mL typical for men)
Testosterone (total): >52 nmol/L → >1500 ng/dL (ref: 300-1000 ng/dL)
SHBG: 35 nmol/L (same; ref: 10-57 nmol/L)
Free Test: Unable to calculate (same note)
PSA: 0.4 µg/L → 0.4 ng/mL (ref: 0-4.0 ng/mL)
TSH: 2.3 mU/L (same mIU/L; ref: 0.4-4.5 mIU/L)
Free T4: 17 pmol/L → ~1.32 ng/dL (ref: 0.8-1.8 ng/dL)

After those blood results I've gone to pinning test e twice per week, 62.5mg Monday and 62.5mg Thursday. I'm looking forward to the next tests to see if reta has benefitted me other than turning off my cravings for pancakes.

This is last weeks check in with coach regarding macros:

Week Number: Week 13/x
Macros: 191P 299C 50F TD
192P 42C 84F NTD
Lowest Weigh in (current week): 235.6lbs
Lowest Weigh in (prev week): 238lb

Once I hit 225lbs the plan is to double the test dose and add anavar at 50mg per day and 2iu GH for around 6 weeks to get down to around 205lbs. The GH will stay and I'll drop anavar then and maintain for a while before looking to grow.

Training is a simple push/pull/legs split over 5 days. I can't train Sundays but could do 6 days per week but unsure on recovery if I did it that way. At the end of sessions I'm doing cardio for 20 mins, just an incline walk. I work a very sedentary job so my steps are low but right now I'm not concerned about that as weight continues to drop.

The plan going forward is to compete again but I'm not entirely sure when, I think I need this year to grow and potentially get back on stage next year. I am a physique guy but would like to progress to classic physique.

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Week Number: Week 14/x
Macros: 191P 299C 50F TD
192P 42C 84F NTD
Lowest Weigh in (current week): 232lbs
Lowest Weigh in (prev week): 235.6lbs
Cardio: 20 min 5 incline 4.5 speed walk
Drugs: 62.5mg test enanthate + 20mg nolvadex mon/thurs + .5mg retatrutide weekly.

4 weeks deep into reta and I love it, no cravings and no cheat meal since 12.1.26, my birthday on Thursday so will have something off plan but not overdo it. training is going well, still not dropped any strength. not much else to report as I get closer to that 225lbs goal to start pushing harder.

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BP is 114/67 and rhr is 69.
 
Goals (Fatloss/muscle gain/maintenance/comp prep/other): fat loss
Week Number: Week 15/x
Macros: 191P 299C 50F TD
192P 42C 84F NTD
Lowest Weigh in (current week): 229lbs
Lowest Weigh in (prev week): 232lbs
Cardio: 20 min 5 incline 4.5 speed walk
Drugs: 62.5mg test enanthate + 20mg nolvadex mon/thurs + .5mg retatrutide weekly.
BP: 113 over 61 and RHR is 70

Not touched macros in 5 weeks now and the weight still continues to trend down. I'm excited to hit the 225lbs goal because then I can enhance my training as I'm doubling test dose and throwing in a compound I've never used before - anavar. Funny thing is that my weights in the gym haven't even gone down in the past month, I'm maintaining my strength.

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Goals (Fatloss/muscle gain/maintenance/comp prep/other): fat loss
Week Number: Week 16/x
Macros: 191P 299C 50F TD
192P 42C 84F NTD
Lowest Weigh in (current week): 229lbs
Lowest Weigh in (prev week): 229lbs
Cardio: 20 min 5 incline 4.5 speed walk
Drugs: 62.5mg test enanthate + 10mg nolvadex monday + .5mg retatrutide weekly.
BP: 113/70 and RHR 81.

No changes in the past week is not so promising and a little demotivating. I'm going to drop carbs on training days by around 50g this week and see how the fat loss goes. I will also start logging my training probably from the week I hit 225lbs as I up the ante. Feel weak just now so hopefully anavar gives me a little strength boost.

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Going to log 3 training sessions as I come towards hopefully the final straight of losing strength. It'll be interesting to see if my strength maintains or increases as I take the cut further considering I'm going to be doubling my test dose and using anavar for the first time in the next two weeks.

Push:

(any plate loaded machines/smith machine I count the plates on 1 side)

Plate loaded incline press wide grip: 20kg (45lbs) x 10, 40kg (90lbs) x 10, 60kg (135lbs) x 10
Plate loaded incline press narrow grip: 80kg (180lbs) x 8, 100kg (220lbs) x 6,6
Pec Fly machine: 138kg (305lbs) x 10,10
Behind the neck shoulder smith machine single arm press: 7.5kg (16.5lbs) x 7,7
Dumbbell lateral raise: 22kg (48.4lbs) x 8,8
Weighted dips: 20kg (45lbs) x 9,8
Tricep press down cable machine: 68kg (149.6lbs) x 8,8,8
Single arm tricep press down cable machine: 18kg (39.6lbs) x 6,6,6
Overhead single arm tricep press: 18kg (39.6lbs) x 7,7,7

Cardio 20 mins incline walk - 5 incline 4.5 speed.

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Pull

Wide grip lat pull down: 100kg (220lbs) x 7,7
Barbell row: 120kg (264lbs) x 7,7
Plate loaded single arm pull down: 80kg (176lbs) x 6,6
Plate loaded single arm row: 75kg (165lbs) x 6,6
Rear delt machine fly: 120kg (265lbs) x 8,8
Reverse grip pre-loaded bar curl: 40kg (88lbs) x 9,9
Single arm cable hammer curl: 23kg (50lbs) x 9,9
Ez bar cable curl: 50kg (110lbs) x 9,9,9

Cardio: 20 min 5 incline 4.5 speed walk

Motivation is a bit low right now, not seeing much visual change in my body and I'm hurting in a few places. Think I may need some BPC-157. Not so sure why I have some niggling injuries as I'm not lifting heavy weights for lots of reps.
 
Goals (Fatloss/muscle gain/maintenance/comp prep/other): fat loss
Week Number: Week 17/x
Macros: 206P 233C 50F TD
170P 75C 45F NTD
Lowest Weigh in (current week): 227.2lbs
Lowest Weigh in (prev week): 229lbs
Cardio: 20 min 5 incline 4.5 speed walk
Drugs: 62.5mg test enanthate + 10mg nolvadex monday + .5mg retatrutide weekly.
BP: 113/70 RHR 83

Bumped up protein and dropped carbs in the past week and the scale is moving in the right direction. I got IGF-1 tested on the 27th to get my natural baseline before I implement IL GH at 2ius on the mini blast once I hit 225lbs.

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Legs

Adductor machine: 59kg (130lbs) x 10,10
Abductor machine: 100kg (220lbs) x 10,10
Laying hamstring curl single leg: 32kg (70lbs) x 7,7
Hack squat: 20kg (45lbs) x 8, 40kg (90lbs) x 8, 60kg (135lbs) x 8, 80kg (180lbs) x 8,8
Leg extension single leg: 32kg (70lbs) x 8,9
Leg extension: 93kg (205lbs) x 9,10
Hamstring curl: 93kg (205lbs) x 9,8
Calf raise: 107kg (235lbs) x 13,13 superset facing toes out/in

I hurt my left leg where I have a pain running from my hip deep into my quad around January time. Not too sure what caused the injury but I was squatting beforehand on both leg days twice per week. To be honest my leg days were harder/heavier 3 months ago but since hurting myself I've toned it down. Used BPC-157 at 250mg per day for 30 days and it helped the issue but now with any leg press or squat movement (other than hacks) the pain comes back and is persistent.
 
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Goals (Fatloss/muscle gain/maintenance/comp prep/other): fat loss
Week Number: Week 18/x
Macros: 209P 249C 51F TD
204P 81C 68F NTD
Lowest Weigh in (current week): 226.2lbs
Lowest Weigh in (prev week): 227.2lbs
Cardio: 20 min 5 incline 4.5 speed walk on training days.
20 min 4 speed walk everyday fast in morning.
Drugs: 62.5mg test enanthate + 10mg nolvadex monday/thursday + .5mg retatrutide weekly.
BP: 109/65
RHR: 70

so this past week I've felt a training dip, and cravings are hitting hard towards the end of the week. I have considered upping reta to .75mg per week but as weight is dropping I may just keep at .5mg. also going to up fasted cardio to 4.5 speed every day. I'm thinking of utilising a refeed considering I'm 5 months deep into the cut and have had two cheat days this year, a controlled refeed should do me some good. Going to aim for 220P, 700C and 60F this coming Wednesday to see what happens.

I've decided regardless if I hit 225lbs I'm starting the mini blast next Monday and I'm pretty excited for it. I'd like some advice though, the original plan was 250mg test e Mon/Thurs, 50mg anavar daily and 2iu gh daily, is this overkill? maybe drop down anavar? the plan from this mini blast is to get to 205lbs in the next 8-10 weeks, maintain for 2-4 then start a proper blast.

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Reached one of my targets yesterday, weighed in at 224.8lbs. The plan was to activate mini blast when reaching 225lbs so it begins on Monday. Going with 300mg test e (switching to prop when it arrives) 50mg anavar and 2iu gh to start. Will be running ASK Labs gh as I'm booked in for testing next Friday. Will pin 10iu intra musc 2 hours prior for the best reading.

Also was rewarded (felt it at the start of the day, less so at the end) with a heavy refeed. I haven't adjusted my macros on MFP in a long time, so they are not accurate. As you can see my usual macros above, this is what I hit today:

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To say I'm expecting an improvement in body composition over the coming weeks is an understatement and I'm so excited for it. Will get a list of my daily supplements posted up on Monday's check in too. Currently I've only been using creatine and eaas.
 
Man I absolutely love the log! It’s proper. Is there anything in particular you wanted my opinion on?
 
Man I absolutely love the log! It’s proper. Is there anything in particular you wanted my opinion on?
Thank you!

Yeah I'll pose 2 questions if you don't mind:

I'm new to anavar and haven't run it in the past, would you personally start lower than 50mg? Say 30mg for first few weeks and as weight tapers down and gym perfomance maybe stalls, then bump it up to 50mg? Or would you go straight in at the deep end with 50mg from the start.

I've also never used an ai before but the more I research the more I see people advocating to try and stay "in range". I've got aromasin on hand and I have bloods booked for the 20th April. Would you start the mini blast with a low dose of aromasin every other day - knowing that your estrogen already goes high on only 125mg test e - or would you hold off until those blood tests? I will run tamoxifen daily from the get go because obviously we wish to prevent gyno.
 
Goals (Fatloss/muscle gain/maintenance/comp prep/other): fat loss
Week Number: Week 19/x
Macros: 209P 249C 51F TD
204P 81C 68F NTD
Lowest Weigh in (current week): 224.8lbs
Lowest Weigh in (prev week): 226.2lbs
Cardio: 20 min 5 incline 4.5 speed walk on training days.
20 min 4.5 speed walk everyday fast in morning.
Drugs: 62.5mg test enanthate + 10mg nolvadex monday/thursday + .5mg retatrutide weekly.
Refeed Thursday: 242P 1008C 76F
BP: 109/68
RHR: 73
Blood glucose: 5.1mmol/L or 92mg/dL

So now things get exciting! Test this week is going to 250mg split over Monday/Thursday, next week the prop should arrive. 50mg anavar daily split 25mg am and 25mg pm. 2iu gh before bed.

Krill Oil — 2 softgels
Cod Liver Oil — 2 softgels
TUDCA — 1 capsule (500 mg)
NAC+ — 1 capsule (600 mg)
Turmeric — 1 capsule (500 mg)
Liposomal Glutathione — 1 serving (250–500 mg) — take on empty stomach first if possible
Zinc & Magnesium — half the bottle serving (Zinc 15–25 mg + Mag 150–200 mg)
Vitamin D3 — 1 softgel (2000–5000 IU)
Daily Multi — 1 tablet
Greens Complex — 1 serving

Krill Oil — 2 softgels (total 4/day)
TUDCA — 1 capsule (500 mg — total 1000 mg/day)
NAC+ — 1 capsule (600 mg — total 1200 mg/day)
Turmeric — 1 capsule (500 mg — total 1000 mg/day)
Zinc & Magnesium — remaining half serving (total Zinc 30–50 mg + Mag 300–400 mg)
Ashwagandha — 1–2 capsules (300–600 mg)
Milk Thistle — 1–2 capsules (200–400 mg)
Psyllium Husk — 1 scoop (5 g — total 10 g/day)
Taurine — 1 scoop (3–5 g)
Creatine Monohydrate — 2 scoops (10g)
CoQ-10 — remaining 2 scoops (total 200–300 mg/day)

Anyone have views on the supplement list? @01dragonslayer , you're a supplement whizz 😉 Is it overkill, obviously I'd rather not blow money on supplements that are not essential. I have ezetimibe and telmisartan but this low dose mini blast doesn't call for them until I get bloods checked again next month.

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Essential supps on trt big game changers:
-magnesium glycinate 400-500mg
-fish oil: 3-4000mg
-D3 + K2 5000IU + 125mcg

Extras—-

For Heart:
CoQ10 200mg
Baby aspirin 81mg
Nattokjnase 2000FU

Cholesterol:
Red yeast rice 1200mg
Citrus bergamot 500-1000mg

liver:
Tudca 300-1000mg
NAC 1200-1800mg
Milk thistle 300-1000mg


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Essential supps on trt big game changers:
-magnesium glycinate 400-500mg
-fish oil: 3-4000mg
-D3 + K2 5000IU + 125mcg

Extras—-

For Heart:
CoQ10 200mg
Baby aspirin 81mg
Nattokjnase 2000FU

Cholesterol:
Red yeast rice 1200mg
Citrus bergamot 500-1000mg

liver:
Tudca 300-1000mg
NAC 1200-1800mg
Milk thistle 300-1000mg


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My list for anyone to use this is just my opinion what will help bloods the best


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Cholesterol:
Red yeast rice 1200mg
Citrus bergamot 500-1000mg

I don't have these, interested to see if reta is making any changes to my cholesterol and I have bloods booked in next month. Only using coq10 as well from your heart list but as this is a moderate blast I'm not too worried. Will be adding supps if bloods are a bit out of whack and when I transition to main blast.
 
Kindly sent these items from @Steroidify Rep . Going to be running these from Monday onwards at 50mg prop and 50mg anavar daily. I have bloods getting pulled tomorrow for IGF-1 levels 3 hours after a 10iu IM GH shot from one of the sponsors here. I have also booked in for a full blood panel in around 30 days to see how I respond to these products - the anavar will have run out by then but I have more coming in the next few weeks to keep up the daily dose of 50mg from Steroidify. I think my bird approves, thanks a lot Steroidify!

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week 1 of the mini blast down.

Goals (Fatloss/muscle gain/maintenance/comp prep/other): fat loss
Week Number: Week 20/x
Macros: 209P 249C 51F TD
204P 81C 68F NTD
Lowest Weigh in (current week): 224.2lbs
Lowest Weigh in (prev week): 224.8lbs
Cardio: 20 min 5 incline 4.5 speed walk on training days.
20 min 4.5 speed walk everyday fast in morning.
Drugs:
250mg test enanthate weekly
50mg anavar daily
20mg nolvadex daily 500mcg retatrutide weekly
2iu GH daily
BP: 122/70
RHR: 70

So I dropped a little bit of weight last week but since upping the drugs my weight has consistently increased to yesterday weighing 229lbs. Coach grok says not to worry as it will be water weight whatwith upping the dosages and potentially due to last weeks refeed still clearing out. It's a bit of a mind fuck to see the scale go up but I don't see any fat gain so I'm not at the panic station yet.

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Now that the prop has arrived I'll be switching to that 50mg daily other than Sundays so I can get in 300mg per week. Will also be switching to the supplied Anavar. Bloods on the 20th April.

Krill Oil — 2 softgels
Cod Liver Oil — 2 softgels
TUDCA — 1 capsule (500 mg)
NAC+ — 1 capsule (600 mg)
Turmeric — 1 capsule (500 mg)
Liposomal Glutathione — 1 serving (250–500 mg) — take on empty stomach first if possible
Zinc & Magnesium — half the bottle serving (Zinc 15–25 mg + Mag 150–200 mg)
Vitamin D3 — 1 softgel (2000–5000 IU)
Daily Multi — 1 tablet
Greens Complex — 1 serving

Krill Oil — 2 softgels (total 4/day)
TUDCA — 1 capsule (500 mg — total 1000 mg/day)
NAC+ — 1 capsule (600 mg — total 1200 mg/day)
Turmeric — 1 capsule (500 mg — total 1000 mg/day)
Zinc & Magnesium — remaining half serving (total Zinc 30–50 mg + Mag 300–400 mg)
Ashwagandha — 1–2 capsules (300–600 mg)
Milk Thistle — 1–2 capsules (200–400 mg)
Psyllium Husk — 1 scoop (5 g — total 10 g/day)
Taurine — 1 scoop (3–5 g)
Creatine Monohydrate — 2 scoops (10g)
CoQ-10 — remaining 2 scoops (total 200–300 mg/day)
 
Goals (Fatloss/muscle gain/maintenance/comp prep/other): fat loss
Week Number: Week 21/x
Macros: 218P 256C 48F TD
183P 51C 71F NTD
Lowest Weigh in (current week): 226.4lbs
Lowest Weigh in (prev week): 224.2lbs
Cardio: 20 min 5 incline 4.5 speed walk on training days.
20 min 4.5 speed walk everyday fast in morning.
Drugs:
300mg test prop weekly
50mg anavar daily
20mg nolvadex daily 500mcg retatrutide weekly
2iu GH daily
BP: 130/70
RHR: 74
Fasted Glucose: 3.6mmol/l

So the weight has gone up this week but I know I don't look any fatter. Imagine it to just be water retention from switching to propionate this week and increasing the dose. Had my IGF-1 Level tested this morning so shall have the results of how legit one of the sponsors GH may be for my body - I still have another one to test down the line. Not much to report, I got stronger on a few exercises last week which I was happy with as I've maintained my strength for the last 4 months quite well. No changes for this coming week regarding nutrition/reta/cardio. That being said I'll get my back shaved for next weeks pic. 🤣

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