First cycle planning

[hemingwaymurder]

I am planning my first cycle. I am doing a lot of research concerning this. I have a few questions.
I am looking on running test-e 250. either 250 or 500 weekly for 10-12 weeks. Not sure which to start with as i want the most out of my first. Some say to include tne 50-75 mg. with each dose for a pre-workout boost. same say to add some tren with it as well. I am most likely gonna stick with just test as i want to see how i react with that alone and build of that. What does just test-e 250-500 week with 125 mg of tne for a pre-workout boost. 10 to 12 weeks with aromasin 12.5 daily while cycling. Waiting for 2 weeks after last dose and starting pct. any info on a good pct to run with this would be appreciated! Thanks to everyone, that we can share information freely, Hemingwaymurder

 

[DeathKnight]

i would run 500 mg for 12 weeks. The side effects will not be much different, and 250 is barely worth running.

I would not recommend running tren as the sides can be quite harsh and you should learn to manage some other things before you run it. Alot of people even reccomended me to use deca before, as it they are both 19-nors, and the side affects are the same but less intense. You will learn how to manage prolactin in your body among several other things.

You may want to research HCG to run with your cycle, it will prevent shutdown of your testes and prevents the post cycle crash some users experience.

 

[TartCherryChill]

I am planning my first cycle. I am doing a lot of research concerning this. I have a few questions.
I am looking on running test-e 250. either 250 or 500 weekly for 10-12 weeks. Not sure which to start with as i want the most out of my first. Some say to include tne 50-75 mg. with each dose for a pre-workout boost. same say to add some tren with it as well. I am most likely gonna stick with just test as i want to see how i react with that alone and build of that. What does just test-e 250-500 week with 125 mg of tne for a pre-workout boost. 10 to 12 weeks with aromasin 12.5 daily while cycling. Waiting for 2 weeks after last dose and starting pct. any info on a good pct to run with this would be appreciated! Thanks to everyone, that we can share information freely, Hemingwaymurder

500mg a week split up into eod shots over an 8 day period.
1mg arimidex eod on non injection days.
Wait 5 weeks for it to kick in.

 

[MidWest]

500mg a week split up into eod shots over an 8 day period.
1mg arimidex eod on non injection days.
Wait 5 weeks for it to kick in.

Lol, first cycle advice of dosing an Enanthate every other day.. totally unnecessary dude...

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[hemingwaymurder]

i am doing my research into hcg. what do you think about the tne prework twice a week. not sure about clomid dosing and length for my pct either.

 

[MidWest]

i am doing my research into hcg. what do you think about the tne prework twice a week. not sure about clomid dosing and length for my pct either.

There are quality stickies here regarding PCT protocol to include length, dosing etc.

TNE is your call. For a first time user a Test only cycle of 500mg EW will provide great results if in conjuction with proper diet and training.

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[hemingwaymurder]

thanx midwest

 

[TouaregV8]

There are quality stickies here regarding PCT protocol to include length, dosing etc.

TNE is your call. For a first time user a Test only cycle of 500mg EW will provide great results if in conjuction with proper diet and training.

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Agreed. Get the TNE and tren out of your mind. You are not there and will not be there (experience wise) for awhile. 500mg/wk of Test E for 12 weeks is a solid cycle. 12.5mg/day of aromasin should be plenty at that dose of test. You may even be able to run the asin EOD.

Diet is critical. Make sure you are eating. Make it your job.

Standard PCT is 4 weeks of clomid and tamoxifen dosed like this:
Weeks 1 and 2: 100mg clomid/40mg tamoxifen per day
Weeks 3 and 4: 50mg clomid/20mg tamoxifen per day

 

[TartCherryChill]

Lol, first cycle advice of dosing an Enanthate every other day.. totally unnecessary dude...

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Peaks blood plasma testosterone levels. Totally legitimate suggestion. Ma'am

 

[TartCherryChill]

i am doing my research into hcg. what do you think about the tne prework twice a week. not sure about clomid dosing and length for my pct either.

Don't use clomid. Use hcg and Nolvadex. Clomid is out of date.

 

[TartCherryChill]

i am doing my research into hcg. what do you think about the tne prework twice a week. not sure about clomid dosing and length for my pct either.

Just so you're aware, everyone is going to make tren sound like suicide, but it's the MOST EFFECTIVE steroid. So learn about it and learn some more. Read on here for shits and learn about tren over on meso rx. Tren ace 50mg Ed or 100mg eod.

 

[MidWest]

Just so you're aware, everyone is going to make tren sound like suicide, but it's the MOST EFFECTIVE steroid. So learn about it and learn some more. Read on here for shits and learn about tren over on meso rx. Tren ace 50mg Ed or 100mg eod.

Don't you have a NAPS order to whine about somewhere?

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[Tmart]

Don't use clomid. Use hcg and Nolvadex. Clomid is out of date.

I totally disagree, I think clomid is the most effective thing you can take for recovery besides maybe torem. There have been a couple studies showing the importance of clomid, even more so then nolva.

Op, use hcg throughout cycle and your standard nolva clomid pct. don't take my word for it, research it and listen to others who will also likely echo my opinion

 

[TartCherryChill]

Don't you have a NAPS order to whine about somewhere?

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No I actually have a great private domestic source that has Simec testing done on all products and is referral only. I did my homework twat

 

[TartCherryChill]

I totally disagree, I think clomid is the most effective thing you can take for recovery besides maybe torem. There have been a couple studies showing the importance of clomid, even more so then nolva.

Op, use hcg throughout cycle and your standard nolva clomid pct. don't take my word for it, research it and listen to others who will also likely echo my opinion

Are you trying to desensitize his body to LH and FSH?
He only needs hcg 500iu eod last 6 weeks of cycle leading up to cycle.

 

[Tmart]

I find it better to run hcg the entire time to keep lh and fsh stimulated and avoid shutdown. It makes more sense in theory to me also, I'd rather run it the whole time rather then wait til you're already shutdown by the last six weeks and then trying to blast it

 

[TheComeback]

Just so you're aware, everyone is going to make tren sound like suicide, but it's the MOST EFFECTIVE steroid. So learn about it and learn some more. Read on here for shits and learn about tren over on meso rx. Tren ace 50mg Ed or 100mg eod.

I'm chiming in just to tell you not to listen to this guy. It looks like I'm the 4th or 5th guy now to completely disagree with him.

Long ester test EOD? Completely retarded.

Clomid out of date? That's almost more retarded. Clomid is fucking amazing! In addition, look at Toureg's damn legs in his picture...you think this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

And your suggesting Tren for a first cycle? Fuck dude, you are obviously trying to make this guy's first cycle as horrible as possible.

 

[hemingwaymurder]

I really do appreciate all the info. This is not something I am just jumping into. Anyone that would decide something like taking AAS from someones word of mouth is absurd. I am thoroughly researching everything and the advise is helping. I am truly learning alot as far as my diet and training is concerned. Poss. using AAS to get off the wall i am beating against. I have a Dr. appointment this week for full bloods (baseline). I will post my results after. I am looking to poss. run test-e 500 week for 10 weeks,.5 arimidex eod through two weeks after last pin then pct for 4 weeks clomid 100/100/50/50 and wait 4 weeks and get some more bloods done. I will get some bloods done midway through my test cycle just not sure at what point any input would be appreciated!

 

[roscoe221]

I find it better to run hcg the entire time to keep lh and fsh stimulated and avoid shutdown. It makes more sense in theory to me also, I'd rather run it the whole time rather then wait til you're already shutdown by the last six weeks and then trying to blast it

Hcg actually does not stimulate lh, it mimics it. In fact hcg on its own can suppress lh. It will keep the leydig cells stimulated in the testes.