1st cycle advice

[Drewski]

so here it is. been reading thoroughly, done lots of research. i feel like i could still do more. but this is just a rough draft looking for revisions from more experienced guys on here. im 26 looking for size and strength gains. im an old fashioned kindof lifter with deads, squats, and bench being my base for everything. been lifting seriously for years now. ive made up my mind, im ready to take the step. heres my cycle so far.
weeks 1-12
test e at 500mgs via two 250mg shots weekly
hcg 500mgs at two 250mg shots(week 2-15) weekly
aromasin 25mgs daily through pct.
weeks 15-20
nolva 40/40/20/20/10

then im not sure if i should or shouldnt include clomid. im still researching on labs. im a newb but hopefully ill get 10 replies for a pm. im most certainly open for suggestions. help a brother out.

drew

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[Gymratt]

I would say drop HCG during cycle and run a several 1,000-2,000mg shots to start pct.
PCT should be:
clomid 50mg for 4 weeks (100mg for first two weeks optional)….
HCG 2000mg E3D for a couple weeks…
Nolv (optional)

Just my advice. Lets get some more info

I personally stay away from hcg while on cycle so that its perhaps more potent/my body is more responsive during pct. However, some say it helps prevent shut down blah blah so its a tough call. As far as PCT, I LOVE CLOMID and HCG as a stack, and see no added benefit when using nolva during these phases

 

[endomorph47]

To me it is a waste of HCG to use it during cycle, I use to pin it from the day after I stop my cycle. You are just confusing your body running it the same time as your cycle, Run it for the 2 weeks after cycle and then run PCT after that.

 

[Gymratt]

To me it is a waste of HCG to use it during cycle, I use to pin it from the day after I stop my cycle. You are just confusing your body running it the same time as your cycle, Run it for the 2 weeks after cycle and then run PCT after that.

This. Two weeks after your last test e pin, Pin 1500-2000units EOD or E3d for a week or two. Start clomid 50/50/50/50 for 4 weeks during HCG time too. That should be all you need.