178 E2 on 400:200 Test E/Primo E

[Synergy]

I'm a high aromatizer even at TRT dosages, and at 17-18% BF. 5'11" 207lbs. I'm assuming moving down to 300:300 test/primo wont be enough and will need aromasin at least once a week? I do also supplement DHEA/Pregnenolone. DHEA 25mg morning. Pregnenolone 12.5mg evening too. And take 20mg var pre workout 4x per week. Currently cutting.

 

[WED]

You sure that primo is real?

 

[Swoleflaim011]

Exactly my thoughts

 

[Meetketchup]

AI time.

 

[Synergy]

You sure that primo is real?

Yeah, HPLC test of same batch.

 

[FearsomeCOR]

Get on an ai. Why the DHEA and preg?

 

[Synergy]

Vigorous Steve says it backfills neurosteroids, especially good on cycle for a good mental state.

 

[Conmike41]

Yeah… get on an AI for now

When you’ve run test solo in the past how was your E2 at other dosages ?

 

[FearsomeCOR]

Vigorous Steve says it backfills neurosteroids, especially good on cycle for a good mental state.

I’d stop watching vigorous Steve and drop them personally unless you feel they’ve benefited you.

 

[Synergy]

He's the best resource for anything AAS. Have learned a lot from him.

 

[FearsomeCOR]

He's the best resource for anything AAS. Have learned a lot from him.

I disagree and think he overcomplicates things a lot, but feel free to do what you’d like of course bro.

 

[Jk4eva12]

The thing with Steve and alot of them I've noticed is they say 1 thing and do another. Don't use sarms or talk about it or ill ban u, then I'm trying injectable sarm to try it out. I've heard them all say the same with trest, eq etc. I read comments and no one calls them out they just bs things and then do it themselves

 

[Bolan]

The thing with Steve and alot of them I've noticed is they say 1 thing and do another. Don't use sarms or talk about it or ill ban u, then I'm trying injectable sarm to try it out. I've heard them all say the same with trest, eq etc. I read comments and no one calls them out they just bs things and then do it themselves

Just look at the guy, should tell you everything right there.

 

[Jk4eva12]

Just look at the guy, should tell you everything right there.

Gets me is they make money on the views then people donating 5, 10, 20 or 50 bucks plus it's crazy for a question. Then if it's say sarms or something they hate they say thanks for the money then ban them lol

 

[Bolan]

Gets me is they make money on the views then people donating 5, 10, 20 or 50 bucks plus it's crazy for a question. Then if it's say sarms or something they hate they say thanks for the money then ban them lol

I always tell him to fuck off in his comments on YouTube. I don't even watch
the vids. I just see em pop up, and I just go directly to the comments section. He's a fuckin idiot....

 

[Markenarten]

I'm a high aromatizer even at TRT dosages, and at 17-18% BF. 5'11" 207lbs. I'm assuming moving down to 300:300 test/primo wont be enough and will need aromasin at least once a week? I do also supplement DHEA/Pregnenolone. DHEA 25mg morning. Pregnenolone 12.5mg evening too. And take 20mg var pre workout 4x per week. Currently cutting.

Dhea raises e2...

 

[Synergy]

Dhea raises e2...

Sure but insignificantly so at that dose per meta analsysis. Worth the mental gains imo. I just need an AI and adjust 1:1, but will still need asin once a week I bet. Shame Im not lucky enough for primo to crush E2 lol. Or perhaps lucky depending on how we look at it ha!

 

[Sirchon]

If you knew you were high aromatizerand taking those compounds. Why no AI to start?

 

[Wally954]

If you haven’t tested your Primo yourself and sent it to jano you can’t be sure it’s not bunk, I’m willing to bet you are probably taking more test than you think and the Primo is not real

 

[Synergy]

If you knew you were high aromatizerand taking those compounds. Why no AI to start?

First time with primo, assumed it would crush, I was wrong. For kicks, switching PSL primo 100 to SB labs primo 200, but the batch # matches for what PSL HPLC tested legit... I had PSL in my system during bloods.

 

[9Major Open]

First time with primo, assumed it would crush, I was wrong. For kicks, switching PSL primo 100 to SB labs primo 200, but the batch # matches for what PSL HPLC tested legit... I had PSL in my system during bloods.

switch the primo and see if that works out better.. buy def keep an AI in hand def soon.

 

[Synergy]

E2 so high, been having water retention in joints and pain lol. I literally thought i had low E2 until bloods came back and was like holy shit. Definitely the highest E2 Ive had.

 

[sepknight]

I would say the primo is fake but using DHEA is one way to raise estrogen and 2:1 might already be a high ratio for you. Who knows - I’m running PSL primo right now also and will be getting my bloods done soon.

 

[Trippy802]

He's the best resource for anything AAS. Have learned a lot from him.

This is false. He will say anything for likes. Sure some of it is valid but most is verbal diarrhea.

 

[LeanMachineAsh]

Yeah, some of us are just more sensitive to aromatization than others, even at lower doses and body fat percentages. Good luck dialing it in!

 

[Synergy]

The PSL primo from this barch # was verified with Janoshik by 2 different users, so not even the vendor. I just dont get good AI effects from it it seems, shame. All good, AI it is, or perhaps I need primo much higher than test. At this point, easiest seems to take an AI regularily on cycle... Thanks everyone for your inputs.

 

[Hapanelo]

I’m a high aromarizer too and have always needed an AI with test/primo. I’ve tried different dosages and many different vendors.

 

[Synergy]

I’m a high aromarizer too and have always needed an AI with test/primo. I’ve tried different dosages and many different vendors.

I had Grok pull a bunch of data and it seems like its more common than I realized. I guess anecdotally having a friend not be in that boat, skewed my perspective. Lesson learned, we all respond differently. How much AI do you seem to require on a 1:1 test/primo of simlar dosage? Would just be curious.

 

[celrin321]

That seems like extremely high e2 for that much primo. Other people have pointed out it seems like the gear might not be what you think it is, some option

i) Get leaner. 18% is pretty high for someone who is enhanced. Aromatization happens mostly in adipose tissue (fat guys aromatize more) so getting to lower bf will help keep your e2 in check.
ii) Try higher primo and see what happens to your e2. If it goes up then you know 100% it is fake
iii) Aromasin 12.5mg 3xtimes a week (you mentioned once a week and it should be dosed more often)

To the extent you aren't getting side effects (gyno, mood swings or feeling like an emotional women, erectile dysfunction etc.) high e2 isn't necessarily a huge problem and some guys let it ride high

 

[FearsomeCOR]

high e2 isn't necessarily a huge problem and some guys let it ride high

Well, it is a potential carcinogen. Not to mention it’ll additionally lead to more IGF being bound to IGFBP1.

I really would recommend most men keep e2 in range, to slightly above. I DEFINITELY wouldn’t ride it at 100+.

Just my personal opinion.