ZPHC vs Alpha Pharma (people who have used either!)

[Athlete126]

I've seen this debate when I search old threads and there is ALOT of alpha pharma reviews good and bad on the web.... so which brand do you like best? ZPHC seems like its hard to find reviews from people who have used the products.

I am looking to order from DG for my prep cycle (arnold 2018) and I just want the best bang for my buck. Ive went down the road with shit gear so I know you guys will steer me the right way. Cheers

 

[Anonim]

I've seen this debate when I search old threads and there is ALOT of alpha pharma reviews good and bad on the web.... so which brand do you like best? ZPHC seems like its hard to find reviews from people who have used the products.

I am looking to order from DG for my prep cycle (arnold 2018) and I just want the best bang for my buck. Ive went down the road with shit gear so I know you guys will steer me the right way. Cheers

Go alpha pharma..tried both, from dg alpha pharma is undiplsputed

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[Sumner]

I use both , I also use Pharmacom ... I mix them all together in a empty vial just to ensure I am G2G ...

 

[Anonim]

I use both , I also use Pharmacom ... I mix them all together in a empty vial just to ensure I am G2G ...

Theyre different weights tho lava lamp vial

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[bc123jm]

used plenty of real alpha.. not the fakes,, know your source .. check the codes.. alpha always did me right

 

[Dark Knight89]

I don’t care for alpha test. Their winstrol 50 tabs were good, but I still have a bunch of test e amps because I felt they were shit (no bloods to prove it strictly based off the way I felt while on). All the Zphc products I have tried were really good. Tren, winstrol, dbol, arimidex, test e. So out of those two I’d prob give zphc the nod as the better lab.That said I like pharmacom products better than both lol.

 

[BigPapaPump2015]

I have used ZPHC from DG , Sustanon, Drol 50, aromasin , letro, I cant complain


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[Flipper]

ZPHC makes a good 10mg dbol, their 20mg Cialis is weak though. This is my personal experience.

 

[Anonim]

I don’t care for alpha test. Their winstrol 50 tabs were good, but I still have a bunch of test e amps because I felt they were shit (no bloods to prove it strictly based off the way I felt while on). All the Zphc products I have tried were really good. Tren, winstrol, dbol, arimidex, test e. So out of those two I’d prob give zphc the nod as the better lab.That said I like pharmacom products better than both lol.

Their testobolin or test e was manufactured subcontracted from a different facility...their test c gave me a 2600 result at 500 on day 20 barely week 3 l...

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[JRotten]

I like Zphc. I have their halo and some other items and all are great. Alpha I have the tren base suspension (adroxine or wtf ever it's called) and I found it to be inferior to any ugl tren base I have used except there is not Guiacol. Of all the "BIG" international labels and labs, I would go ZPHC first.

 

[dawg16]

I like Zphc. I have their halo and some other items and all are great. Alpha I have the tren base suspension (adroxine or wtf ever it's called) and I found it to be inferior to any ugl tren base I have used except there is not Guiacol. Of all the "BIG" international labels and labs, I would go ZPHC first.

Your thoughts on the AP Androxine is interesting, I've been satisfied with it. You don't have the issues with oil based tren base with Guaicol.

 

[Anonim]

Speak to anyone that does bussiness with both companies...AP is the best ZPHC was more to compete with pharmacom, if ap was still in bussiness it would dominate the market

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[dawg16]

Speak to anyone that does bussiness with both companies...AP is the best ZPHC was more to compete with pharmacom, if ap was still in bussiness it would dominate the market

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So are you saying there is no Alpha Pharma and everything is fake? Where do you get your information?

 

[Anonim]

So are you saying there is no Alpha Pharma and everything is fake? Where do you get your information?

Im saying theres no alpha anymore.If you buy enough of it you read the batch numbers and expiry dates you will see...have tried ap verification system, where are their reps they all went mia since the investigation..

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[dawg16]

Im saying theres no alpha anymore.If you buy enough of it you read the batch numbers and expiry dates you will see...have tried ap verification system, where are their reps they all went mia since the investigation..

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Im not sure I quite buy your theory. What reps are you talking about, and do you have any links to support your thoughts on some investigation? You've lost me.

 

[Anonim]

Im not sure I quite buy your theory. What reps are you talking about, and do you have any links to support your thoughts on some investigation? You've lost me.

Dude alpha pharma been in limbo since 2015..google it youll see

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[dawg16]

I'm not sure I buy your bull. Googled just like you said to do....couldn't find anything to back up your statement. Just went to AP's website....I have products on hand and ran them through their authentication protocol. All 3 passed. After entering the serial number and authentication code, it came back legit and EVEN TOLD ME what product I entered to check and the expiration date.....now am I full of shit or you?

 

[Anonim]

I'm not sure I buy your bull. Googled just like you said to do....couldn't find anything to back up your statement. Just went to AP's website....I have products on hand and ran them through their authentication protocol. All 3 passed. After entering the serial number and authentication code, it came back legit and EVEN TOLD ME what product I entered to check and the expiration date.....now am I full of shit or you?

Ok man im full of shit...whats your expiration dates like whats the mfg dates and src

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[dawg16]

Ok man im full of shit...whats your expiration dates like whats the mfg dates and src

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I think you are, everything checks out....I'm done with this....

 

[Anonim]

I think you are....I'm done with this....

Oh ok i figured they werent going past 2018....its all good man i buy ap gear all the time

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[JRotten]

JUST MY OPINION: but Pharmacom does not live up to their reputation. Either they have sketchy raws sources, those automatedprocesses are innacurate, or their QC is lacking. They aren't terrible, but there are several UGLs with better consistency and accuracy.

 

[Rajput]

Alpha pharma is sweet. Their oils are great but orals are average.


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[dawg16]

Alpha pharma is sweet. Their oils are great but orals are average.


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Im very curious...could you elaborate more about your statement on the orals?

 

[Anonim]

Im very curious...could you elaborate more about your statement on the orals?

Lmao, have you ever used ap man, cause obviously you dont seem to have even bought any of their products

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[dawg16]

Lmao, have you ever used ap man, cause obviously you dont seem to have even bought any of their products

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Bro, I've used tons of the stuff....are you smart enough to figure out that I'm being somewhat of a smart ass with all my AP questions? I get sick and tired of people making comments and zero information to back it up? They just make stupid ass comments. That goes for all brands...not just AP. If you think some gear is shit, back it up with labs, or something other than a stupid statement. The comments don't ad anything to the thread...just BS. Do you understand me now?

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[Anonim]

Bro, I've used tons of the stuff....are you smart enough to figure out that I'm being somewhat of a smart ass with all my AP questions? I get sick and tired of people making comments and zero information to back it up? They just make stupid ass comments. That goes for all brands...not just AP. If you think some gear is shit, back it up with labs, or something other than a stupid statement. The comments don't ad anything to the thread...just BS. Do you understand me now?

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Ok i agree with that lots of speculation..i did labs on their test was on beyond on point but unfortunately had to stop taking their aromasin since it was way underdosed ..came out with e2 @60 taking 25mg a day for a week and a half almost got gyno, alpha pharma for me remains my favourite brand, naps has them for a good price but dont trust their shipping, comparing pharmacom and zphc to it is an insult, ap oils will go through a 27 guage like water

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[dawg16]

Ok i agree with that lots of speculation..i did labs on their test was on beyond on point but unfortunately had to stop taking their aromasin since it was way underdosed ..came out with e2 @60 taking 25mg a day for a week and a half almost got gyno, alpha pharma for me remains my favourite brand, naps has them for a good price but dont trust their shipping, comparing pharmacom and zphc to it is an insult, ap oils will go through a 27 guage like water

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It would have been great if you would have said that a few comments back.

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[Rajput]

Im very curious...could you elaborate more about your statement on the orals?

Used their Aromasin, under dosed
Used Anavar, under dosed
Used test P, spot on with the labs
Used tren A, got the trensomnia and crazy strength gains. No other way to trace tren
Tried eq, but eq is a very slow acting compound, so cannot comment
Used Masteron, made me dry af and strong.

I dont use dbol but i have heard from colleagues that it is also under dosed.




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[JRotten]

Your thoughts on the AP Androxine is interesting, I've been satisfied with it. You don't have the issues with oil based tren base with Guaicol.

I don't like G, but if I'm sticking a hole in myself then I want the shit to work at maximum potential. 3 amps of adroxine didn't compare to 50-75mg of typical UGL tren base.

 

[Anonim]

I don't like G, but if I'm sticking a hole in myself then I want the shit to work at maximum potential. 3 amps of adroxine didn't compare to 50-75mg of typical UGL tren base.

I heard androxine is the best tren base there is, from vets,thats tren water susp and not many ugl can pull it off, remember ive seen ugl put different stuff in tren bases, i had this base one time that felt it had dbol and tren ace in it

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