futuretrunks
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Here's my typical shoulder routine:
Seated front lateral raises (dumbbells)
5-6 sets, 8-15 reps
LifeFitness seated shoulder press
4 sets, 8-12 reps
Hoist seated shoulder press (selectorized)
4 sets, 8-12 reps
Upright barbell rows
4 sets, 8-12 reps
Face pulls (rope)
4 sets, 10-15 reps
Reason I say that is because dedicating a full day to shoulders is pretty stupid. It is 2018. Older bodybuilders are getting old and the younger new school guys are taking over - doing our training based on science and progressive overload and not Broscience
antjb1017 - so what does your week typically look like? I get the focusing on push/pull but do you work chest/shoulders/arms all on one day?
You need to change to a Push/Pull routine focusing on frequency. Every muscle group gets hit twice per week. Push Power one day, pull power the next. Then you will have push hypertrophy and pull hypertrophy. That is 4 days. Other two are lower body days (legs/calves/hams/etc) and one rest day
Reason I say that is because dedicating a full day to shoulders is pretty stupid. It is 2018. Older bodybuilders are getting old and the younger new school guys are taking over - doing our training based on science and progressive overload and not Broscience
Rotator cuff stretch, Arnold press(light for warm up purposes) front plate raise, lateral side raises, seated dumbbell press, face pulls, also do heavy shrug pyramid on shoulder day. Prolly not the best idea. I usually pyramid everything.
You need to change to a Push/Pull routine focusing on frequency. Every muscle group gets hit twice per week. Push Power one day, pull power the next. Then you will have push hypertrophy and pull hypertrophy. That is 4 days. Other two are lower body days (legs/calves/hams/etc) and one rest day
WTF are you talking about dummy.
Stop trying to appear all fucking wise. And don't try to re-invent the wheel.
Dumbass newbies like you giving useless advice.
Don't dedicate a day for shoulders by themselves?? So you recommend training with chest? With Back??
I am 47 and use to do chest and shoulders together and found I got more and did better when I focused on shoulders alone. Not what was left over after a tough chest workout. Perhaps your chest workout isn't so tough and you can do both.
Or maybe with back? Gee Arnold said that he would do chest and back (push/pull) back in the 70's. So not so fucking new.
Rest assured, if you think you came up with a new way to train, you didn't.
Most guys on this forum have forgotten more gym time then you can remember. Dick.
WTF are you talking about dummy.
Stop trying to appear all fucking wise. And don't try to re-invent the wheel.
Dumbass newbies like you giving useless advice.
Don't dedicate a day for shoulders by themselves?? So you recommend training with chest? With Back??
I am 47 and use to do chest and shoulders together and found I got more and did better when I focused on shoulders alone. Not what was left over after a tough chest workout. Perhaps your chest workout isn't so tough and you can do both.
Or maybe with back? Gee Arnold said that he would do chest and back (push/pull) back in the 70's. So not so fucking new.
Rest assured, if you think you came up with a new way to train, you didn't.
Most guys on this forum have forgotten more gym time then you can remember. Dick.
antjb1017 - so what does your week typically look like? I get the focusing on push/pull but do you work chest/shoulders/arms all on one day?
Not to sound like an ass, but do you really think push/pull is something new? There are many ways to skin a cat bro.
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Not sure why you think this is some ground breaking program? Monday is all pull, except for squats.... Tuesday is just a standard OLD SCHOOL - Chest, shoulders, tri's push day....Wednesday Off day.... Thursday - typical OLD SCHOOL leg day.... Friday, again like Tuesday is just a basic push day - Chest, shoulders, tri's day, Saturday - typical all pull day... Sunday is labeled weak points, but they are all push movements. I do really like this layout, it's just not as ground breaking as you apparently think.
Cool looking graphics though bro![]()
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Not sure why you think this is some ground breaking program? Monday is all pull, except for squats.... Tuesday is just a standard OLD SCHOOL - Chest, shoulders, tri's push day....Wednesday Off day.... Thursday - typical OLD SCHOOL leg day.... Friday, again like Tuesday is just a basic push day - Chest, shoulders, tri's day, Saturday - typical all pull day... Sunday is labeled weak points, but they are all push movements. I do really like this layout, it's just not as ground breaking as you apparently think.
Cool looking graphics though bro![]()
Never said it was ground breaking - was providing an example.
It’s different than the typical “Monday- Chest Tris... Tues- Back and bis” bs... that’s what I was saying.
And yes Sunday is for MY WEAK POINTS.
Post a pic...
Never said it was ground breaking - was providing an example.
It’s different than the typical “Monday- Chest Tris... Tues- Back and bis” bs... that’s what I was saying.
And yes Sunday is for MY WEAK POINTS.
Well, you sorta of did.... Check this out. From back in the 70's Arnold's The New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding. How is your program that different? Except there are no rest days!
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Don't get pissy, no disrespect here. Single bodypart training became all the range later, but just trying to prove to you push/pull training is nothing new, far from it.