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I’m hoping someone can chime in with some help….

So I have decided to do my own TRT. I have been started on Test C from the mens health center. I’m going to purchase my own stuff but need some help deciding which test to use. Should I go ahead and continue Test C or change it up to Test E. I’m only on my second shot of TRT so I think I should be good to switch off to Test E. Also, has anyone tried masteron e with their TRT? If I decide to run both long term, test @200mg/week and just do 100mg/week of masteron. Is that a waste of masteron? If I do decide to run masteron with my test should I stick with test e since they are both enanthate? Any help would be appreciated.
 

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I forgot to mention, I will be doing some cycles throughout the year with my TRT.
 

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Esters won't matter if they're not the same. E and C are essentially the same. Just fyi tho, it's not trt anymore if you add mast. That said, uncle z has a "trt plus" blend as part of the goldline series thats 200/200 test/mast.
TRT Plus - 400mg/ml 10ml/vial EP GOLD - USA - UncleZ here's the domestic link or can save a few bucks going Intl

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Thank you, I’ll stick with just test for TRT. How about Test C or E? What are most people on? What do you’ll think is best for TRT? I’m sure everyone’s preference are different but would like to hear both sides.
 

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Thank you, I’ll stick with just test for TRT. How about Test C or E? What are most people on? What do you’ll think is best for TRT? I’m sure everyone’s preference are different but would like to hear both sides.
Their half lives are very similar. It doesn’t make much of a difference.
I am on doctor prescribed test c.
 

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Hello and welcome. You’re making a good decision. I too was attempting to walk the HRT clinic route and then saying no way and self prescribing…

I think you’ve gotten some good advice up top here. I’ll add that there is no difference between esters and E and C. They are both medium chain esters that your body recognizes as the same. Half life’s are moderately different but by such a small marginal amount that it doesn’t matter.

I know plenty of guys who add Mast to their TRT. It’s a DHT and you should notice a nice libido boost first.. then depending on your dosage aesthetically would be second.

You may want to look into adding Proviron to your TRT to free up some of your Free Testosterone. Proviron fights for SHBG which will prevent Testosterone attaching itself and allowing you to have more Free Testosterone and with TRT that’s the bread and butter. If you’re new to Proviron adding it to your TRT at 50mg ED would be a nice routine.

Test E or C 200mg/wk
Mast 50-100mg/wk
Proviron 25-50mg ED

I would say you’d see nice results in how you feel with something like that. Also something to consider (considering if you’re older) is that NPP or Deca at low doses can be largely beneficial to your joints and just a better all around feeling. If say… you’re prone to MPB and the Mast began doing a number on your hair line you could switch to a low dose NPP or Deca and im sure that would Work for you as well.

Anytime Deca or NPP is involved you should consider getting your E2 Estrogen checked as it does Aromatize and with some guys it can throw your E2 out of whack. Having a good AI on hand (A-dex) would be a good idea.

Best of luck and if SB labs can do anything for you please let us know.
 
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Agree with above. The difference between cyp and enanth is just a day or with half-life. Masteron at 100mg/wk?.....save your money brotha....you won't see anything. Remember too that masteron is cycled when BF is low. Its more of a hardening agent rather than a mass gainer and should be ran at a minimum of 400mg/wk to see any strength benefits.
 
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Hello and welcome. You’re making a good decision. I too was attempting to walk the HRT clinic route and then saying no way and self prescribing…

I think you’ve gotten some good advice up top here. I’ll add that there is no difference between esters and E and C. They are both medium chain esters that your body recognizes as the same. Half life’s are moderately different but by such a small marginal amount that it doesn’t matter.

I know plenty of guys who add Mast to their TRT. It’s a DHT and you should notice a nice libido boost first.. then depending on your dosage aesthetically would be second.

You may want to look into adding Proviron to your TRT to free up some of your Free Testosterone. Proviron fights for SHBG which will prevent Testosterone attaching itself and allowing you to have more Free Testosterone and with TRT that’s the bread and butter. If you’re new to Proviron adding it to your TRT at 50mg ED would be a nice routine.

Test E or C 200mg/wk
Mast 50-100mg/wk
Proviron 25-50mg ED

I would say you’d see nice results in how you feel with something like that. Also something to consider (considering if you’re older) is that NPP or Deca at low doses can be largely beneficial to your joints and just a better all around feeling. If say… you’re prone to MPB and the Mast began doing a number on your hair line you could switch to a low dose NPP or Deca and im sure that would Work for you as well.

Anytime Deca or NPP is involved you should consider getting your E2 Estrogen checked as it does Aromatize and with some guys it can throw your E2 out of whack. Having a good AI on hand (A-dex) would be a good idea.

Best of luck and if SB labs can do anything for you please let us know.
That is some excellent advice. Thank you
 

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Agree with above. The difference between cyp and enanth is just a day or with half-life. Masteron at 100mg/wk?.....save your money brotha....you won't see anything. Remember too that masteron is cycled when BF is low. Its more of a hardening agent rather than a mass gainer and should be ran at a minimum of 400mg/wk to see any strength benefits.
I figured 100mg was too low, I figured someone would reassure me that it would be a waste of money as I stated in my original post.
 

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I figured 100mg was too low, I figured someone would reassure me that it would be a waste of money as I stated in my original post.
Well Hack if you were looking to run a cycle that’s a different story… you can still add Mast at lower doses for the Anti E benefits and the libido increase. Cosmetically you wouldn’t see that ‘hardening effect‘ at that dose… however that’s assuming you’re running It with your TRT.

Cycling Mast would be a different topic all together with different dosages. I like Mast at 400mg/wk however I’m prone to MPB so you really have to watch your hair and going through a massive shed. May I suggest running the Mast P instead of the Mast E… if you experience sides while running the prop you can discontinue quickly how hopefully limit the damage. If someone is already loosing hair and they they go through a massive shed… it could be life altering depending on when you caught it snd how fast it gets out of your system.
 

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Depending on your "goals" while on trt.. different esters hold on to water different.

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Well Hack if you were looking to run a cycle that’s a different story… you can still add Mast at lower doses for the Anti E benefits and the libido increase. Cosmetically you wouldn’t see that ‘hardening effect‘ at that dose… however that’s assuming you’re running It with your TRT.

Cycling Mast would be a different topic all together with different dosages. I like Mast at 400mg/wk however I’m prone to MPB so you really have to watch your hair and going through a massive shed. May I suggest running the Mast P instead of the Mast E… if you experience sides while running the prop you can discontinue quickly how hopefully limit the damage. If someone is already loosing hair and they they go through a massive shed… it could be life altering depending on when you caught it snd how fast it gets out of your system.
That was my exact thoughts for TRT. I wouldn’t run Mast that low for a cycle. I’ve never had any problems with estrogen in the past when running 12 week cycles. It’s been a while since I’ve used any gear. I turned to TRT because I’ve been feeling like ish and sure enough my levels were below 190 at 38yo. So since it has been a while that I had ran a cycle. I was trying to take the extra precautions running mast 100mg week for the anti estrogen and the sex drive nothing more then that.
 

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Test E gives me bloat. Even though it and C look the same/similar on paper, there is a difference.
 

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if you feel comfortable with test C, do not change.

did you consider test undeco instead?
 

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Almost all doctors prescribe test C for TRT.

I am on 200mg TC, 200mg Mast and 25 proviron when on TRT and feel absolutly amazing. .
 

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Almost all doctors prescribe test C for TRT.

I am on 200mg TC, 200mg Mast and 25 proviron when on TRT and feel absolutly amazing. .
And Wiseguy is that self prescribed TRT or Doctor prescribed?

im assuming the Mast is self prescribed…
 

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Doctor just gives me 200 tc per week. Masteron and Proviron I get on my own.
At age 57 sex drive, feeling of wellness, lean body mass all terrific. Such a nice combo.
 

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test c > test e for me, test E can give me PIP so I prefer test C out of those two esters.

I would add proviron to increase free test and proviron is basically a non toxic oral. Its benefits include increased libido and overall wellness feeling to most anyone who uses it, my preference is 75mgs a day, most members seem to use it at 50mgs a day and get all the benefits.

I also love masteron and have used it many years but in your case I would not use masteron, its practically pointless at 100mgs and for many users masteron thins out the hair quite a bit. good luck.
 

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The standard for Endo’s to prescribe is 200mg Test Cyp per week. I would stick with that while cruising/TRT.
 

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That was my exact thoughts for TRT. I wouldn’t run Mast that low for a cycle. I’ve never had any problems with estrogen in the past when running 12 week cycles. It’s been a while since I’ve used any gear. I turned to TRT because I’ve been feeling like ish and sure enough my levels were below 190 at 38yo. So since it has been a while that I had ran a cycle. I was trying to take the extra precautions running mast 100mg week for the anti estrogen and the sex drive nothing more then that.
Yes and no… I know lots of guys who add Mast to their TRT protocols and get good results from 150-200mg week. Again, not cosmetically or physically but more for the libido boast and anti- E benefits. It sounds like we’re saying the same thing… sounds like you’re looking at mast for that exact reason. So I would try it out at 200mg and see how you’re feeling. Combine that with your TRT and I’m sure you’ll be doing pretty good. And again if you’re looking to test the waters and you‘re thinking of a cruise or a blast in between TRT… try out the NPP, Test, Proviron protocol… just make sure you have an AI on hand just in case.
 

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Yes and no… I know lots of guys who add Mast to their TRT protocols and get good results from 150-200mg week. Again, not cosmetically or physically but more for the libido boast and anti- E benefits. It sounds like we’re saying the same thing… sounds like you’re looking at mast for that exact reason. So I would try it out at 200mg and see how you’re feeling. Combine that with your TRT and I’m sure you’ll be doing pretty good. And again if you’re looking to test the waters and you‘re thinking of a cruise or a blast in between TRT… try out the NPP, Test, Proviron protocol… just make sure you have an AI on hand just in case.
Got it, you’re right we were on the same page. I appreciate your input.
 
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