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Want to add tren to my cycle! But am I too far gone?

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So very unlike me but my cycle was not planned well. Done years of blasting and cruising and always have a plan. However this time was different.

Originally started with 300 test c 300 mast e 200 npp did that for 2 weeks. On week 3 decided I didn't want to run the npp. So dropped the npp. Instead I decided I wanted to run my cut blend of test a tren a mast p. Pinned one ml which equalled 50mg of each. Only pinned that one time. Went on a trip and packed my mast and test only. So went back to pinning test c and mast e 300mgs each that week. Now I'm on week 4 and back home so have all my supplies. I want to go back to that cut stack. 150mg of test p mast p and tren a a week.

Is that doable switching from long esters to short esters. Should I just call it a loss and continue 300 test 300 mast maybe throw var in the end? Only thing that sucks is I only do 1 12 week blast a year now so like to make it count.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 

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There’s nothing wrong with changing esters but your 4 weeks into a 12 week cycle that has been back and forth. Your only bet is to train your ass off, diet hard and hit the fast esters.
 

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There’s nothing wrong with changing esters but your 4 weeks into a 12 week cycle that has been back and forth. Your only bet is to train your ass off, diet hard and hit the fast esters.
Thanks bro. Between the two options which route would you suggest I go based on my goals
 

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Thanks bro. Between the two options which route would you suggest I go based on my goals

Id go short esters and toss the var in as well personally. Run the var 6 weeks at 50mg
 

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Or just figure it out right now- pick your drugs and stick with them from this point on. I didn’t see anywhere OP said he planned on 12 weeks total- but if that was the plan there’s nothing wrong with just running 16 weeks total instead, and use the longer esters if that’s your preference.
 

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OP I think there isn’t anything terrible about switching things up.. I’ve been there before and I frequently still switch up compounds and dosages depending On how I’m feeling and looking (not always the best method but I’m stuck doing it… it’s just who I am). Id plan to make this a 16 week run. I’d run all short esters. And if you like the Test/Mast combo than throw in some TREN Ace (low dosed… 200mg-ish). From there on out I’d only dial in the dosages and not the compounds.
 

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OP I think there isn’t anything terrible about switching things up.. I’ve been there before and I frequently still switch up compounds and dosages depending On how I’m feeling and looking (not always the best method but I’m stuck doing it… it’s just who I am). Id plan to make this a 16 week run. I’d run all short esters. And if you like the Test/Mast combo than throw in some TREN Ace (low dosed… 200mg-ish). From there on out I’d only dial in the dosages and not the compounds.
Thanks man so thing is I don't have Tren a on hand. Prob can get it in 2 weeks. I only have thag cut stack on hand thats 50 mgs of tren a mast p and test p each.
 

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Thanks man so thing is I don't have Tren a on hand. Prob can get it in 2 weeks. I only have thag cut stack on hand thats 50 mgs of tren a mast p and test p each.
Message me. I can get it out to you in less than 2 weeks brother.. way less
 

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Message me. I can get it out to you in less than 2 weeks brother.. way less
You think getting the tren a seperate is a better idea? Prob right? If I take the cut stack and the tren sides bother me then I have to switch all esters again. This way I can continue to take the test and mast. Add the tren a seperate and if it bothers me at least I can drop it separately and continue the test and mast right?
 

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So very unlike me but my cycle was not planned well. Done years of blasting and cruising and always have a plan. However this time was different.

Originally started with 300 test c 300 mast e 200 npp did that for 2 weeks. On week 3 decided I didn't want to run the npp. So dropped the npp. Instead I decided I wanted to run my cut blend of test a tren a mast p. Pinned one ml which equalled 50mg of each. Only pinned that one time. Went on a trip and packed my mast and test only. So went back to pinning test c and mast e 300mgs each that week. Now I'm on week 4 and back home so have all my supplies. I want to go back to that cut stack. 150mg of test p mast p and tren a a week.

Is that doable switching from long esters to short esters. Should I just call it a loss and continue 300 test 300 mast maybe throw var in the end? Only thing that sucks is I only do 1 12 week blast a year now so like to make it count.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Yes you can easily toss the cut blend into the mix.. it has a much faster kick in time than people think. you have more than enough time to get some great benefits from it..
But make these last weeks count, give it hell in the kitchen and the gym, it will all come together.
Whats also great is that you reached full saturation with the other long esters at this point, so they are JUST ABOUT starting to really shine now, and adding the cut mix back in will compliment things. everything will be firing at once..
go for it..
 

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You think getting the tren a seperate is a better idea? Prob right? If I take the cut stack and the tren sides bother me then I have to switch all esters again. This way I can continue to take the test and mast. Add the tren a seperate and if it bothers me at least I can drop it separately and continue the test and mast right?
It’s for that reason brother that i always/most of the time stay away from mixes. I’m not saying they’re bad at all… some sponsors here make some great mixes that I’ve largely enjoyed trying (King Labs makes a test suspensison/Tren Base/Superdrol mix that will knock you into next week lol… highly recommend). However when it comes to my main compounds I like them Individual. I can toy around with the dosages, cut out one if I’m feeling a certain way, bump up another, ect… I just like the versatility.
 

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Yes you can easily toss the cut blend into the mix.. it has a much faster kick in time than people think. you have more than enough time to get some great benefits from it..
But make these last weeks count, give it hell in the kitchen and the gym, it will all come together.
Whats also great is that you reached full saturation with the other long esters at this point, so they are JUST ABOUT starting to really shine now, and adding the cut mix back in will compliment things. everything will be firing at once..
go for it..
Thanks man. So my source can get me tren a next week. Prob better idea to wait 1 more week for it and just add the tren a separately. Thay way if I get sides I can just cut it out?
 

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It’s for that reason brother that i always/most of the time stay away from mixes. I’m not saying they’re bad at all… some sponsors here make some great mixes that I’ve largely enjoyed trying (King Labs makes a test suspensison/Tren Base/Superdrol mix that will knock you into next week lol… highly recommend). However when it comes to my main compounds I like them Individual. I can toy around with the dosages, cut out one if I’m feeling a certain way, bump up another, ect… I just like the versatility.
Yea my source can get me tren a in a week prob less. Should I just wait for that. That way it's a simple drop if I experience sides from it instead of the mix?

So basically can run
Test and mast 300 for 12 weeks.
Add tren a the last 6 to 8 weeks?
 

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Yea my source can get me tren a in a week prob less. Should I just wait for that. That way it's a simple drop if I experience sides from it instead of the mix?

So basically can run
Test and mast 300 for 12 weeks.
Add tren a the last 6 to 8 weeks?
I like it man… However I have a tendency to overdo things lol. Having the compounds individually will allow you to make those changes just my 2 cents

If you ever need something down the road hit me up 🤝
 

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I like it man… However I have a tendency to overdo things lol. Having the compounds individually will allow you to make those changes just my 2 cents

If you ever need something down the road hit me up 🤝
Yea last time I ran tren it fd up my stomach. Couldny eat so stopped after 2 weeks. Been about 4 years since so thought I'd give it another go. If it bothers me I'll prob just stick to anavar.
 

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Yea last time I ran tren it fd up my stomach. Couldny eat so stopped after 2 weeks. Been about 4 years since so thought I'd give it another go. If it bothers me I'll prob just stick to anavar.
Yup… TREN still gives me heartburn. I can still eat luckily but it sounds like you have a good plan
 

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Yup… TREN still gives me heartburn. I can still eat luckily but it sounds like you have a good plan
Last thing. Last time I ran var gave me bad acid reflex. Didn't treat it at all. So months later developed like an ulcer and still had acid reflex. It wasn't until I got a upper endoscopy that they prescribed me omeprazole and fixed my symtpoms. I'm still taking the omeprazole now. Would you think it's OK to give the var another go?
 

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Hmmm that’s a tough one. The stomach is a slippery slope… i say that because my girl battles stomach issues and it is NO FUN. Not IBS or other issues but serious stomach issues. So my advice would be tread lightly.

let me ask you… because you had this issue to you get yearly check-ups or every 6 months? If you knew what to look for or tests to get… I’d say you’re in a good spot to make those types of decisions right? Even Ulcers can be massively problematic to someone’s way of life. Does anyone in your family have a history of these sorts of stomach condition?

I‘d hate to give you bad advice.. on one end you have ending orals all together (although even certain AAS oils and some peptides directly affect the stomach) while on the other hand you should be proactive about your stomach and gut health. Adding Anavar could effect your gut.

I can tell you if it were me I’d stay away from orals. Might not be a popular decision but that’s what I would do faced with your situation. Im sure you know your body and you’ll make the right call 😉
 

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Last thing. Last time I ran var gave me bad acid reflex. Didn't treat it at all. So months later developed like an ulcer and still had acid reflex. It wasn't until I got a upper endoscopy that they prescribed me omeprazole and fixed my symtpoms. I'm still taking the omeprazole now. Would you think it's OK to give the var another go?
Just my .02 cents. If u had acid reflux on var, mixing tren in COULD be a disaster. Imo leave the tren for another time. None of it will do shit if u can't eat. Good luck bro!
 

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Just my .02 cents. If u had acid reflux on var, mixing tren in COULD be a disaster. Imo leave the tren for another time. None of it will do shit if u can't eat. Good luck bro!
Thanks man. What about the var you think now that I'm on omeprazole
 

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Thanks man so thing is I don't have Tren a on hand. Prob can get it in 2 weeks. I only have thag cut stack on hand thats 50 mgs of tren a mast p and test p each.
2 weeks?! Jesus. You need to msg JJ as he suggested.
 

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Tren doesn’t mess my stomach up, but any oral does now. All orals give me heartburn, pretty sure it’s old man syndrome. If I’m going to run an oral I just accept generic Prilosec as part of my cycle. Doesn’t stop it completely but helps enough to tolerate it.
 

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Thanks man. What about the var you think now that I'm on omeprazole
Sorry bro- just saw this- I think u should be fine w/ var as long as u take the omeprazole. Assuming it's prisolec or similar? Good luck
 

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Sorry bro- just saw this- I think u should be fine w/ var as long as u take the omeprazole. Assuming it's prisolec or similar? Good luck
Thanks man yea on week 6 of my cycle and want to add the tren or var. Really east the tren but heard it can cause heart damage and be linked to cancer is that true?
 
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