Var or tren to finish cycle off?

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It's something to add in,run it like that and see how goes.ive heard guys running 100mg a week helped,if you feel bad drop it.if u don't just stick w that dose.
 

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It's something to add in,run it like that and see how goes.ive heard guys running 100mg a week helped,if you feel bad drop it.if u don't just stick w that dose.
Thanks bro for the help. Hopefully all is good. Who knows with my anxiety will prob drop it this week lmao
 

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Running test and mast right now. Just noticed I have a little fat around my belly button. No wear else it seems. Diets in check. I was planning on adding tren or var to finish off the cycle. Either 100 mgs tren a week. Or var 25 mg a day. Nothing crazy.

My main concern is cardio and heart healthy. Which would be better.
If you left out the belly fatand basically posing the addition like a diet aid I would just scratch my head. As a cycle ender to peak I would say either one. I am a low end dose guy. 100 mg/w Tren Ace would definitely finish off a cycle nicely.
 

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If you left out the belly fatand basically posing the addition like a diet aid I would just scratch my head. As a cycle ender to peak I would say either one. I am a low end dose guy. 100 mg/w Tren Ace would definitely finish off a cycle nicely.
Thanks bro yea was gonna do anavar but my testing kit got messed up in the delivery process so waiting another week to come in. I'm a first responder so need to have my cardio be in tact. Do you think on that dose of 25 mg eod it will put me at risk. Should I wait one more week and just extend cycle and try the var
 

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Thanks bro yea was gonna do anavar but my testing kit got messed up in the delivery process so waiting another week to come in. I'm a first responder so need to have my cardio be in tact. Do you think on that dose of 25 mg eod it will put me at risk. Should I wait one more week and just extend cycle and try the var
Not for me. You have to do the experiment and find out.
 

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No way bro stay far away from that.
I'm not trying to sell you anything, but PSL has EP and they have been tested quite often in fact anavar is one of their best sellers.
You think hold off on the var until my labmax comes in. Don't care about dosing just don't want it to be dbol. Would go in the opposite direction I'm trying to go. My kit should be here next Monday so a week.
 

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You think hold off on the var until my labmax comes in. Don't care about dosing just don't want it to be dbol. Would go in the opposite direction I'm trying to go. My kit should be here next Monday so a week.
The logical thing to do would be to hold off until you get your report, this way you know what you're putting in your body.
Even if it was a different compound it would only temporarily send things into a different direction. But if I was in your shoes I would hold off, only because my life has been plagued with setbacks, and I would hate to see you setback slightly which you can obviously correct. But if it could be avoided let's avoid it entirely.
Fuck setbacks.. you're not obligated to take anything at the moment just remember that..
 

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You think hold off on the var until my labmax comes in. Don't care about dosing just don't want it to be dbol. Would go in the opposite direction I'm trying to go. My kit should be here next Monday so a week.
Yes hold off.not sure how much u have to test,but u could have just got var from a reputable source here for price of that test prob.good luck hope all is well.
 

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Get Shredded!
The logical thing to do would be to hold off until you get your report, this way you know what you're putting in your body.
Even if it was a different compound it would only temporarily send things into a different direction. But if I was in your shoes I would hold off, only because my life has been plagued with setbacks, and I would hate to see you setback slightly which you can obviously correct. But if it could be avoided let's avoid it entirely.
Fuck setbacks.. you're not obligated to take anything at the moment just remember that..
Good stuff man thanks. Yea right now added the tren so we'll see. I prefer to take the var just cause milder on the body so we'll see. Due for another pin of tren tmro so we'll see if I go through with it haha. Wanted to limit my cycle to 12 weeks only but only running test and mast so feel like it's no awful if I extend it to 14 weeks
 

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Good stuff man thanks. Yea right now added the tren so we'll see. I prefer to take the var just cause milder on the body so we'll see. Due for another pin of tren tmro so we'll see if I go through with it haha. Wanted to limit my cycle to 12 weeks only but only running test and mast so feel like it's no awful if I extend it to 14 weeks
Two more weeks will not take years off your life. If you are already ready to fire on all cylinders right now, just capitalize on it.
These things you are considering are great for situational awareness, but truly they're really trivial. Especially with your modest usage and your health awareness. Don't drive yourself crazy with overthinking. Try not to at least. Lol
 

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Two more weeks will not take years off your life. If you are already ready to fire on all cylinders right now, just capitalize on it.
These things you are considering are great for situational awareness, but truly they're really trivial. Especially with your modest usage and your health awareness. Don't drive yourself crazy with overthinking. Try not to at least. Lol
Thanks boss. Yea ever since I hit 30 I just am way more aware of what I'm taking and the consequences they could lead to. In my 20s didn't worry about shit now that I'm 30 it's like a 180 haha
 

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Two more weeks will not take years off your life. If you are already ready to fire on all cylinders right now, just capitalize on it.
These things you are considering are great for situational awareness, but truly they're really trivial. Especially with your modest usage and your health awareness. Don't drive yourself crazy with overthinking. Try not to at least. Lol
So one day down lmao. Prob all in my head but feel like I'm breathing harder but prob cause I'm anxious about it. But feel like I look a little better too. I know prob in my head. So due for another 25 mg today. My two options were to continue the tren this week. Once my testing kit comes in on next Monday test the var and see if I want to switch or stay with the tren. Or come off the tren and wait for the test to come in and hope the var is good.
 

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Hey guys so pinned tren a twice so far and feeling good no sides yet maybe more irritable but feel like I look more veiny and tighter already prob in my head.

Question is I was originally running 350 test 350 mast with aromasin 12.5 mg twice a week. I now dropped the test and mast to 250 mg each and I introduced tren 25 mg eod. Do you think I need to change my ai at all?

Also pinning eod is hard for me. Work 24 hour shifts. So I pinned Saturday and late Monday night around 11 pm.
I'm technically due to pin tmro but working a 24. Should I just pin early Thurs morning instead?
 

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Hard to say about ai..every1 differs.i don't need or use ai unless dose higher than 500 or I see sides, u may not need ai at all at those doses.about pinning u can pin early or later up to you,u can pin before u go,remember you want to keep bloods stable,,
 

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Hard to say about ai..every1 differs.i don't need or use ai unless dose higher than 500 or I see sides, u may not need ai at all at those doses.about pinning u can pin early or later up to you,u can pin before u go,remember you want to keep bloods stable,,
 

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Yes hold off.not sure how much u have to test,but u could have just got var from a reputable source here for price of that test prob.good luck hope all is well.
What do you guys do for BP on cycle. So regularly take 10 mg Lisinopril as prescribed by doc. With adding the tren I'm curious if my BP will go up at the low dose. If it does would it be ok to take 20 mg Lisinopril a day to stay on top of it just for the 4 weeks I'm on
 

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What do you guys do for BP on cycle. So regularly take 10 mg Lisinopril as prescribed by doc. With adding the tren I'm curious if my BP will go up at the low dose. If it does would it be ok to take 20 mg Lisinopril a day to stay on top of it just for the 4 weeks I'm on
If you already taking something for bp u should be fine,it's low dose...just keep an I on it.
 

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Thanks man. If it does creep up should I come off or is it ok top pop an extra Lisinopril while on
Not sure about double dosing that.i have never taken bp meds..just keep eye on it & if it's crazy high consistently, drop the tren.
 

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Update:

Tren is pretty amazing. Again could all be placebo. Been pinning 25 mg eod for a week now. So far no sides. I feel I get hotter more than usual at some points but not too noticeable. But I feel like my body has already changed.
 

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That damn Vis guy...
Lost my glasses,welfare checks and now can't remember who he's talking too..
Maybe there's a 12 step program out there that can help..
You know admitting you have a problem is the Biggest Part..

Not sure who's easier Vis or Rod..
Z...
I heard that asshole! Lmao! Damn Vis that's a mighty bright colored commercial u got for not wanting to sell the guy anything-lol. BTW- op, just do the var- but get it from Vis- his shit is THE BEST. Serious about that. Good luck man and let me see if I can find my specs. I know I left them somewhere around here- lol-HR ( and tren will definitely mess w/ ur cardio- guaranteed)
 

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Update:

Tren is pretty amazing. Again could all be placebo. Been pinning 25 mg eod for a week now. So far no sides. I feel I get hotter more than usual at some points but not too noticeable. But I feel like my body has already changed.
25mg is actually perfect.. I used this last run... KEEP IN MIND, you don't need to feel the sides of something in order for it to be working for you.. Some guys crank up tren until they feel slight sised, thsi way this think they are on tren and go by feels... Drugs don't need to be used like that... even at 25mg EOD, its more dominate than Test at 500+ mgs..
 

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Running test and mast right now. Just noticed I have a little fat around my belly button. No wear else it seems. Diets in check. I was planning on adding tren or var to finish off the cycle. Either 100 mgs tren a week. Or var 25 mg a day. Nothing crazy.

My main concern is cardio and heart healthy. Which would be better.
Based on what happened to me after starting HGH 6 months ago, I’d add 3ius HGH per day, 1iu upon waking, post workout, and before bed. Fat melts off, especially the first month of use. Like with any compound, after awhile the body adapts and you need to up the dose for the same rapid results. This is what I’m experiencing anyway. I’m sure a month off HGH would reset things. Most people will disagree and say HGH must be taken at least 6 months to see results. That’s complete nonsense! Results come very quickly if you eat clean and train consistently.
For AAS, as someone else mentioned, you can get away with adding both var and tren at the low doses you are thinking about.
 

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25mg is actually perfect.. I used this last run... KEEP IN MIND, you don't need to feel the sides of something in order for it to be working for you.. Some guys crank up tren until they feel slight sised, thsi way this think they are on tren and go by feels... Drugs don't need to be used like that... even at 25mg EOD, its more dominate than Test at 500+ mgs..
Thanks boss having trouble with my pinning schedule due to my 24 hours shifts. So far my week has been like this pinning wise.

Saturday
Monday
Thurs a.m.
Friday p.m

Now I can't really figure out when to pin next. Should I pin today or Monday am? I'm working 24s this week on Tues and Thurs.
 

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Thanks boss having trouble with my pinning schedule due to my 24 hours shifts. So far my week has been like this pinning wise.

Saturday
Monday
Thurs a.m.
Friday p.m

Now I can't really figure out when to pin next. Should I pin today or Monday am? I'm working 24s this week on Tues and Thurs.
You can pin Monday as long as you get that in first thing in the a.m..
Scheduling can really be a pain in the ass, and this goes for many things whether it's pinning cardio, food shopping and whatnot.
Long as you get everything in within a 7-Day window, your 7-Day window does not have to be a standard calendar date Sunday through Saturday, for an example your Sunday can begin on a Wednesday and your Saturday can be a Tuesday.
Long as you get everything in within that time frame you're good. There is a quick clearance time but it's not out that quick.
 

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You can pin Monday as long as you get that in first thing in the a.m..
Scheduling can really be a pain in the ass, and this goes for many things whether it's pinning cardio, food shopping and whatnot.
Long as you get everything in within a 7-Day window, your 7-Day window does not have to be a standard calendar date Sunday through Saturday, for an example your Sunday can begin on a Wednesday and your Saturday can be a Tuesday.
Long as you get everything in within that time frame you're good. There is a quick clearance time but it's not out that quick.
Makes sense man. So for this week best bet would be Mon wed frid sun? Or I can do today wed Friday Sunday?
 

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Makes sense man. So for this week best bet would be Mon wed frid sun? Or I can do today wed Friday Sunday?
That's actually my schedule, monday, wednesday, Friday.. but of course when I am on that is.. it works for me.
If during your schedule somehow incidentally or accidentally you missed a day, it's really not a big deal and it doesn't change much, just begin the new calendar date the following day.
Your cellular response and internal mechanisms, they're not going to grab their ear or their own arm and fall on the ground like a bunch of baby European soccer players looking for a penalty with a dramatic response..
 
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