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Alright here is everything... My test level is 200 points lower from when I was feeling much much better...attached as well...
 

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Hi,

You should remove your name from the paperwork.
See if you can remove the tread and start a new one.
 

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Alright here is everything... My test level is 200 points lower from when I was feeling much much better...attached as well...

My clinic prescribed Cabergoline at .5mg tablets they had me take 1/2 tablet eod for high prolactin issue. I noticed some sleepiness but not even bad . It helped a lot and my levels were back in normal range two weeks later. That problem is more prevalent than you know . I’ve seen true divorce, break ups happen over lack of, or no sexual activity because of a hormonal change (both females & males). Mostly non AAS users too; I’m not taking 40-50yr olds here either. 20’ and 30’s .

On a side note - They offer PT-141 (melanotan 1) generic or Vyleesibranded pen injectors
as well which does 100% work but the Vyleesi
is only Rx to females . So men have to pay cash as it’s considered “Off Label Use” .

Max
 

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My clinic prescribed Cabergoline at .5mg tablets they had me take 1/2 tablet eod for high prolactin issue. I noticed some sleepiness but not even bad . It helped a lot and my levels were back in normal range two weeks later. That problem is more prevalent than you know . I’ve seen true divorce, break ups happen over lack of, or no sexual activity because of a hormonal change (both females & males). Mostly non AAS users too; I’m not taking 40-50yr olds here either. 20’ and 30’s .

On a side note - They offer PT-141 (melanotan 1) generic or Vyleesibranded pen injectors
as well which does 100% work but the Vyleesi
is only Rx to females . So men have to pay cash as it’s considered “Off Label Use” .

Max
Which one of these did you like better?
 

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Trt nation stated that level is nothing to be concerned with...

Out of everything in your bloodwork, prolactin being up around 19-23 makes it the only logical first thing to address.

Did they have any logical course of action or theories?

High prolactin murders libido. You have high prolactin. Its also really easy to lower it without causing any problems.

They're basically suggesting yoy cross the street without looking, because you havent seen any cars driving on that road (because you havent even looked) lol
 

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He said I'm a high aromatizer or something like that; I have a message for him awaiting a response. Side note: My pnp will order any labs needed, so if there is any you'd like to see let me know besides the normal ones from trt nation

My previous bloods don't have estradiol I'm going for that test on Wednesday, just the usual stuff, and my test was 998, and my free was 36.1. I do have my original test from like 3 or 4 months ago. I'll post it here...View attachment 84031
Looks like you need a smidge of caber my friend.

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Now let's throw in some ed issues... Geez.. Have some caber on the way!
 

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Out of everything in your bloodwork, prolactin being up around 19-23 makes it the only logical first thing to address.

Did they have any logical course of action or theories?

High prolactin murders libido. You have high prolactin. Its also really easy to lower it without causing any problems.

They're basically suggesting yoy cross the street without looking, because you havent seen any cars driving on that road (because you havent even looked) lol
They are upping my test to 250mg per week from 200.. They are saying my prolactin isn't high enough to be concerned with based on there clinic standards
 

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They are upping my test to 250mg per week from 200.. They are saying my prolactin isn't high enough to be concerned with based on there clinic standards

Yeah, well doctors also tell guys with 400 ng/dl that they're in the normal testosterone range lol.

At least they're upping the dose instead of trying to back off, which is what I'd fear most from a doc. Upping to 250 is a good move though.

HCG would have been my route, outside of the easy and quick process of lowering prolactin. Testicular testosterone production is more subject to 5 alpha reduction to DHT, due to the same localized androgenic activity that would help arousal. Those tissues have a higher concentration of 5 alpha reductase enzymes.
 

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Get Shredded!
So I took a caber last night... I felt high as a mf.. I slept like a freaking baby though.. That normal? Should I just take it once a week?
 

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So I took a caber last night... I felt high as a mf.. I slept like a freaking baby though.. That normal? Should I just take it once a week?
You felt high? How so?

This is strange and I am interested

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So im a huge sb labs guy and there stiff is legit.. I took this at 7pm and by 8 I was like dazed and confused 🤣🤣🤣 im a computer engineer and my response time was like non existent.. It was nuts.. About eh 2 hours ago it wore off 🤣🤣 I don't now if it like started knocking that prolactin and my body went into shock(don't think that's possible but you know) 🤣🤣
 

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Just wanna provide an update here... I took that caber night before last and after like 12 hours of being high I feel completely different all good things... I also added 5mg of cialis before my workout today and I felt even better... Libido does seem to be improving a bit...
 

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Just wanna provide an update here... I took that caber night before last and after like 12 hours of being high I feel completely different all good things... I also added 5mg of cialis before my workout today and I felt even better... Libido does seem to be improving a bit...
You shouldn’t feel high off of caber. It’s a compound to lower prolactin. It like an AI for prolactin, you shouldn’t feel anything. I have taken it while on Tren like twice and it definitely didn’t get me high!
 

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Just wanna provide an update here... I took that caber night before last and after like 12 hours of being high I feel completely different all good things... I also added 5mg of cialis before my workout today and I felt even better... Libido does seem to be improving a bit...

Dopamine agonist CAN have that effect on some (especially persons who have needed due to chemical imbalances . I’ve had sexual , happy feelings and tiredness/relaxed chill feeling before

Max
 

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Hey max thanks for that! There is no doubt I feel a lot better now.. But have no clue how often to take it... I'll get a prolactin special test ordered in a week or two maybe? What do you guys think?
 

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I'd like to follow up here and let you know that it was, in fact, my estrogen being off. I cut the adex down to once per week and everything is firing on all cylinders again. So I guess the estradiol number is to low for my body which is kind of weird.
 

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TRT is about 4.5 months now, but in the last 3-4 weeks my libido has completely gone away. I discussed with trt nation about this, and he lowered my dose of trt from .5(100) 2x a week to .4 2x a week I guess that is 150ml a week and put me on ai .5 of generic amiridex that I've taken for the last 3 weeks. The first week I lost 10 lbs while on that AI, but man my libido is non-existent at this point. I can't even attempt... pretty depressing honestly.

Any ideas?
have you done blood work to know where your test level is. I'm just learning about all the things they test for. For me I need about 200mg to get up around 1200-1300
 

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Some of these clinics. Did they recommend bloodwork when they decided to lower your dose abd add the ai?
 

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Have you done blood work to know where your test level is? I'm just learning about all the things they test for. For me, I need about 200mg to get up around 1200-1300
Of course! I pin on Sundays and Thursdays so I got all my labs done Thursday morning before I pin. 300mg a week was at 993, 250 a week was at 794. I should say my starting levels were at 268
 

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Some of these clinics. Did they recommend bloodwork when they decided to lower your dose abd add the ai?
Of course not but I knew better! They wanted me to go down to 160 a week and keep the ai the same... So I was like uhh that's going to be problematic..
 

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Yeah, it's more common than you think for low responders... They say I might go down after 6-12 months or I may not... That's coming from trt nation...
 
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