TRT Question

[AchesNPains]

Had my initial appointment with TRT clinic and they took blood for labs. Labs are back and they moved my appt from a week away to tomorrow. Treatment options were discussed being injections, clomophine, gels/lotions or HCG. My question is has anyone opted for clomophine over injections and what were your results with it?

 

[Rot-Iron66]

Get test, clomid sucks and has way too many issues. (And is foreign to the body). Test is not...

 

[Wiseguy]

Test only my brother. On TRT for decades

 

[AchesNPains]

Thanks for the replies, my wife and I were pretty sure that's the direction we were going to go. Also, I don't know why auto correct kept changing clomiphene to clomophine and making me look stupid. LOL

 

[BBruce]

If you and your wife wants kids I would go with Clomid, if done with kids go with injections. Clomid gets a bad rep but you can get your Test levels to a respectable level, to me Clomid is great.

 

[AchesNPains]

If you and your wife wants kids I would go with Clomid, if done with kids go with injections. Clomid gets a bad rep but you can get your Test levels to a respectable level, to me Clomid is great.

Yes, we are done having children. We have 5 ranging in ages from 24 to 6.

 

[BBruce]

Yes, we are done having children. We have 5 ranging in ages from 24 to 6.

Then injections is the way to go.

 

[Sponx]

Had my initial appointment with TRT clinic and they took blood for labs. Labs are back and they moved my appt from a week away to tomorrow. Treatment options were discussed being injections, clomophine, gels/lotions or HCG. My question is has anyone opted for clomophine over injections and what were your results with it?

Good video:

 

[01dragonslayer]

Had my initial appointment with TRT clinic and they took blood for labs. Labs are back and they moved my appt from a week away to tomorrow. Treatment options were discussed being injections, clomophine, gels/lotions or HCG. My question is has anyone opted for clomophine over injections and what were your results with it?

When the wifey and I were trying to conceive I came off everything. We went to a urologist after trying for a year. He said I was low on my little swimmers so he prescribed me clomid......it worked but took some time.


If my judgement is correct in what you are planning.....clomid and HCG are not in the equation. Those will really only get you back into the normal test ranges.

If want enhancement you need testosterone.

 

[AchesNPains]

Good video:

Thank you, that was a really good video and lots of great info.

 

[AchesNPains]

When the wifey and I were trying to conceive I came off everything. We went to a urologist after trying for a year. He said I was low on my little swimmers so he prescribed me clomid......it worked but took some time.


If my judgement is correct in what you are planning.....clomid and HCG are not in the equation. Those will really only get you back into the normal test ranges.

If want enhancement you need testosterone.

Yes, I already told the doc that HCG was out because we were not looking at having any more children. It seems to make sense that test injections are the best as the symptoms I have are best controlled with replacement. If I'm on clomid for a while but the symptoms remain or return then what was the point.

 

[Moto140]

SERMs are not good monotherapy for true TRT, and clomid is not even the best option. If any SERM could be good monotherapy, it would be enclomiphene. Not clomiphene.

Clomiphene (clomid) is composed of Enclomiphene and Zuclomiphene. Enclo is what binds to the hypothalamic estrogen receptor and prevents it from seeing estrogen, therefore excreting more GNHR, whoch triggers petuitary excretion of LH and FSH.

Zuclomiphene (also in clomid) is slightly tpxic tp leydig cells in testis. It also triggers some esteogen receptors to a degree. It has a really long half life, too. So the side effects build up and impair vision and give bad emotional side effects.
You want straight up enclomiphene if you're going to use a serm.

If your labs are around 350 or so, get some cistanche, Tongat Ali, and Fadogia Aggrestis. Take strong doses of them all for a month and see if your HPTA comes up to 600+

Otherwose just get a half kilo of test cyp for $300 and home brew 175mg/week for the rest of your life lol.

 

[Sponx]

Thank you, that was a really good video and lots of great info.

No problem!

 

[AchesNPains]

Got my labs back. Was started on 100mg test cyp a week. My plan is to follow docs protocol through the first 3 months then have blood work redone by clinic. Want to be in better shape before ramping up, that being said...was thinking of adding anavar to my current TRT dose for 8 weeks. Thoughts? I can post current lab results for anyone intetested.

 

[BBruce]

Got my labs back. Was started on 100mg test cyp a week. My plan is to follow docs protocol through the first 3 months then have blood work redone by clinic. Want to be in better shape before ramping up, that being said...was thinking of adding anavar to my current TRT dose for 8 weeks. Thoughts? I can post current lab results for anyone intetested.

I would wait until after you first blood work, preferably you should wait until you dialed in your TRT dose before adding anything.

 

[Moto140]

Got my labs back. Was started on 100mg test cyp a week. My plan is to follow docs protocol through the first 3 months then have blood work redone by clinic. Want to be in better shape before ramping up, that being said...was thinking of adding anavar to my current TRT dose for 8 weeks. Thoughts? I can post current lab results for anyone intetested.

Nice! And anavar is a great add-on to TRT. It binds to SHBG pretty strongly. That means you'll have more free testosterone, and feel awesome. So yeah I honestly would consider low doses of anavar as a good alternative to increasing your test dose in your protocol.

You could be on 100mg test cyp, a little anavar, and get the same feeling like you're on 200mg test. And youd avoid the side ileffects of increasing test.

SARMs would be good to consider, for the same reasons as anavar. Anybody ignoring SARMs should go inject some S23 before they reply to me.

 

[j2048b]

Nice! And anavar is a great add-on to TRT. It binds to SHBG pretty strongly. That means you'll have more free testosterone, and feel awesome. So yeah I honestly would consider low doses of anavar as a good alternative to increasing your test dose in your protocol.

You could be on 100mg test cyp, a little anavar, and get the same feeling like you're on 200mg test. And youd avoid the side ileffects of increasing test.

SARMs would be good to consider, for the same reasons as anavar. Anybody ignoring SARMs should go inject some S23 before they reply to me.

Just be prepared to watch ur lipids regardless of anavar doses, that hdl will surely get hit regardless


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[AchesNPains]

Just be prepared to watch ur lipids regardless of anavar doses, that hdl will surely get hit regardless


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Chose to hold off. No Anavar at the moment. Going to wait till after my next blood work for my TRT before I choose to start anything else.