Trt/proviron

[Startingover]

58 yo
253#
Training/diet on point!

On 200mgs cyp per week since april.
Reading a bunch on adding proviron to trt..
Many benefits mind and body!
Been 15+years since I did cycle of any kind.

Have some Bayer coming from juicedaddy..
25mg

Thinking 12.5 mg per day.
Is this worthwhile?
Or do I need to be at 25mg per day?

My reasoning for 12.5 is receptors/body virgin to aas.

Feel like is I can stay minimal while getting results.
No need for bigger doses till I need them..
Thanks in advance for all input!

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[rdm]

I wouldn't use less than 25mg. If you want to split that into 12.5mg 2x a day that's an option. I personally take it all at once in the AM.

 

[Ziath11]

I’d do 25mg a day to get some real benefit from it. You won’t see improved gains from proviron though just better libido, more free test, sense of well-being.

 

[Matt88]

I’d do 25mg a day to get some real benefit from it. You won’t see improved gains from proviron though just better libido, more free test, sense of well-being.

If his free test is currently low due to high shbg then he could potentially see better gains due to more free test in circulation 😀

Of course that is dependent on what his current shbg and free test is.

 

[Startingover]

Waiting on results from 1st labs after being on trt...


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[MTG]

I take 25mg at 8am and at 8pm... pretty sure it doesnt last the full day I could be wrong tho.

it definately cost more taking 2 a day LOL

 

[maxmuscle1]

I’ve ran Proviron for over 2 year @ 12.5mg twice daily for HRT w gh .
**When I blast , I like 75-100mg daily

Max

 

[Matt88]

Waiting on results from 1st labs after being on trt...


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Hopefully it includes a Free test and not just a total test so you can see the full picture 😀

 

[freight train]

Agree 25 mg split into 2 doses keeps level stable

 

[MTG]

now I think im taking to much for trt will cut back to 25mg split. Max has way more exp then me

 

[maxmuscle1]

Agree 25 mg split into 2 doses keeps level stable

Too funny . My papa’s favorite saying at the Horse track is “Freight Train , In the Lane !! “ as they are coming to the wire ! He’s a huge horseracing handicapper . He’s hit the pick 6 twice! Once at Santa Anita and once @ Del Mar - one paid $285,000 but he was split up with my mom and took four of his buddies on a gambling trip all balls out , bought a sports car and spent it all cuz he thought my mom would take it all.
Lol . Of course they got Re-married and have been together since they were in 8th grade . I se your screen name and it reminded me of all the bodybuilders partying when I was a young kid .

They must’ve tore shit up cuz I remember him talking about spending $100k just gambling traveling , and I know what they were up to . He doesn’t tell me , but I know ! . He’s just like me but I don’t gamble at all. I do play horses if I have inside info from him but, that’s about it . I did win $1600 before on a $20 exacta box . Had a 75-1 on top ! They cheat so bad , the jockeys take turns sometimes when they need money - makes me wonder how much the trainers and owners scam . Bob Baffert is the worst ! He has all the drugged up horses …I think they banned his ass for life at most of the tracks !

Max

 

[Glycomann]

Too funny . My papa’s favorite saying at the Horse track is “Freight Train , In the Lane !! “ as they are coming to the wire ! He’s a huge horseracing handicapper . He’s hit the pick 6 twice! Once at Santa Anita and once @ Del Mar - one paid $285,000 but he was split up with my mom and took four of his buddies on a gambling trip all balls out , bought a sports car and spent it all cuz he thought my mom would take it all.
Lol . Of course they got Re-married and have been together since they were in 8th grade . I se your screen name and it reminded me of all the bodybuilders partying when I was a young kid .

They must’ve tore shit up cuz I remember him talking about spending $100k just gambling traveling , and I know what they were up to . He doesn’t tell me , but I know ! . He’s just like me but I don’t gamble at all. I do play horses if I have inside info from him but, that’s about it . I did win $1600 before on a $20 exacta box . Had a 75-1 on top ! They cheat so bad , the jockeys take turns sometimes when they need money - makes me wonder how much the trainers and owners scam . Bob Baffert is the worst ! He has all the drugged up horses …I think they banned his ass for life at most of the tracks !

Max

I might be hte only one that speaks your language here. i always bet the speed offset by the track record. since my father passed I don't bet anymore.

 

[Big Puppy]

I’ve ran Proviron for over 2 year @ 12.5mg twice daily for HRT w gh .
**When I blast , I like 75-100mg daily

Max

what happened to your blood markers from the proviron

 

[maxmuscle1]

what happened to your blood markers from the proviron

I’ve been able to keep all my markers “in range” except I need to lower my LDL by 17 points but my total cholesterol is 172 and I’ve lowered my triglycerides by 67 points . My B/G and BP/HR is great . I’ve been spending 8 years experimenting with supplements/nutraceuticals diet, cardio/exercise to improve and reverse blood markers . It’s a lot of work! Especially with my total anti aging program all year. Blasting temporarily can change that fast.

Max

 

[Wiseguy]

I’ve been able to keep all my markers “in range” except I need to lower my LDL by 17 points but my total cholesterol is 172 and I’ve lowered my triglycerides by 67 points . My B/G and BP/HR is great . I’ve been spending 8 years experimenting with supplements/nutraceuticals diet, cardio/exercise to improve and reverse blood markers . It’s a lot of work! Especially with my total anti aging program all year. Blasting temporarily can change that fast.

Max

My brother try GW. It will fix your cholestrol very quickly. 60 Days after running Test/Tren/Master/Primo/Halo/ Var my cholestrol is 140 with GW.

 

[Startingover]

Too funny . My papa’s favorite saying at the Horse track is “Freight Train , In the Lane !! “ as they are coming to the wire ! He’s a huge horseracing handicapper . He’s hit the pick 6 twice! Once at Santa Anita and once @ Del Mar - one paid $285,000 but he was split up with my mom and took four of his buddies on a gambling trip all balls out , bought a sports car and spent it all cuz he thought my mom would take it all.
Lol . Of course they got Re-married and have been together since they were in 8th grade . I se your screen name and it reminded me of all the bodybuilders partying when I was a young kid .

They must’ve tore shit up cuz I remember him talking about spending $100k just gambling traveling , and I know what they were up to . He doesn’t tell me , but I know ! . He’s just like me but I don’t gamble at all. I do play horses if I have inside info from him but, that’s about it . I did win $1600 before on a $20 exacta box . Had a 75-1 on top ! They cheat so bad , the jockeys take turns sometimes when they need money - makes me wonder how much the trainers and owners scam . Bob Baffert is the worst ! He has all the drugged up horses …I think they banned his ass for life at most of the tracks !

Max

Already love your Pop!!
Lol
Worried wife gonna take it all!!
Goes all out partying trip to spend it!!
Then gets remarried!?!?!
Can't make this shit up!!
Sounds like the movie??
Lil Chinese guy?
Mike Tyson was in one 2..
Cany think of it at the moment?
Funny shit Max!!

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[Startingover]

New bloodwork..
2 months on TRT..
136 was before..
200mg/week

 

[maxmuscle1]

136 total testosterone to 367 free test! /1267 total ! That’s great ! You must feel much better in the (male department) !

Max

 

[maxmuscle1]

Already love your Pop!!
Lol
Worried wife gonna take it all!!
Goes all out partying trip to spend it!!
Then gets remarried!?!?!
Can't make this shit up!!
Sounds like the movie??
Lil Chinese guy?
Mike Tyson was in one 2..
Cany think of it at the moment?
Funny shit Max!!

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All 100% ! My life has been a movie , part 1-5 so far ! Lol .

Max

 

[maxmuscle1]

My brother try GW. It will fix your cholestrol very quickly. 60 Days after running Test/Tren/Master/Primo/Halo/ Var my cholestrol is 140 with GW.

Holy shit ! I swear I’m always reading up but (I just kept thinking about the endurance part
And forgot as to why & how it can help my LDL , I’ll order GW 1516 , we have Hennos by Pharmacom. I recently started Nad+ ,subq twice a week but, GW is otw now. Appreciate tne reminder .

Max

 

[maxmuscle1]

New bloodwork..
2 months on TRT..
136 was before..
200mg/week

Holy balls ! (Dm me, you famous mofo )!

 

[Glycomann]

Cut your name off the top brother.

 

[Startingover]

I know
Trying to delete now

 

[Startingover]

Need lil help here man..
Can't figure out how to delete this?

 

[Startingover]

RBC tad high
I also donated blood before trt

WBC Same

Globin/Crit
High as well..
Anything to be concerned about?

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[Startingover]

Estradiol shot up as well
From like 20 something to 67..
This ok?


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[Vision]

Estradiol shot up as well
From like 20 something to 67..
This ok?
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To be honest your estro was right where I like mine, 60ish..
Keep in mind, that you're sitting at 1200 with test, When one level goes up so will others so you are within the boundaries of everything tailoring each other right where they should be, it's not like your estrogen is extremely out of range with some crazy triple digits..

But to be honest forget about the numbers go by how you feel.
When I go by how I feel this is where my numbers are roughly..
Depending on when I pull bloods..

 

[Startingover]

To be honest your estro was right where I like mine, 60ish..
Keep in mind, that you're sitting at 1200 with test, When one level goes up so will others so you are within the boundaries of everything tailoring each other right where they should be, it's not like your estrogen is extremely out of range with some crazy triple digits..

But to be honest forget about the numbers go by how you feel.
When I go by how I feel this is where my numbers are roughly..
Depending on when I pull bloods..

Feel good V!
When I see numbers?
It gets me squirrley...
Nvr had any issues with gyno..
But that's where my head went right away.
Guess I'll know if anything like that is starting to rear its ugly head!?!?

 

[JD1155]

Big big fan of Proviron here. Notice a bit less water retention and a great overall feeling

 

[Battousai]

Estradiol shot up as well
From like 20 something to 67..
This ok?
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Like Vision said, you probably feel better at 60 than 20.