Trestolone acetate

[billzboats]

How does trestolone affect you testosterone readings during trt?

 

[Vision]

How does trestolone affect you testosterone readings during trt?

Well it can certainly throw off your estrogen, and it can lower your SHBG which could in return free up your free test.. So in fact it could show some positive changes, nothing to be alarmed about but keep in mind it can also jack or elevate progestin and estrogen.

 

[billzboats]

Thanks Vision. I am trying to stay on range that urologist prefers but cheat if I van.

 

[Vision]

Thanks Vision. I am trying to stay on range that urologist prefers but cheat if I van.

Stick with the low dosage, and just titrate from there if necessary You do not need much at all, like at all less can be more Do not overdo it.

 

[JACKED_]

Stick with the low dosage, and just titrate from there if necessary You do not need much at all, like at all less can be more Do not overdo it.

I have found ment to be highly effective at as little as 7-10mgs a day.

25 is god mode

 

[Vision]

I have found ment to be highly effective at as little as 7-10mgs a day.

25 is god mode

Yes precisely, however some people jack up the dosages and I don't know why, but just like you implemented you don't need much at all.. This stuff is that powerful There's nothing stronger than it.

 

[billzboats]

What affect will it have on mybloods?

 

[Theotherone55]

I have found ment to be highly effective at as little as 7-10mgs a day.

25 is god mode

Added 10mg a day to my normal offseason and hit 330lbs at my peak weight lol
Felt amazing.

Reminder that trest was a male contraceptive so chill if you are possibly trying for a child in the next couple years lol

 

[CompoundLifts31]

25mgs EOD = SWEET SPOT
12.5 MGS AROMASIN EOD WITH IT.

I can't say this will work perfect for your estrogen, but if you're an average responder, it should.

It always better to double check with blood work during the cycle to dial in your AI.

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[Sherk]

Ment is a phenomenal compound. Now I’m thinking about running this with my next cycle. Test, ment, Sten. Sounds glorious.


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[CompoundLifts31]

Ment is a phenomenal compound. Now I’m thinking about running this with my next cycle. Test, ment, Sten. Sounds glorious.


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That does sound wicked AF.

I've been eyeing Stenbolone since it's on sale. I was googling Trest yesterday to see if I found any new info on it.

How's life been @Sherk ?

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[Someguy22922]

I've run quite a bit of trest. Ace, E and Deconate. Stick to Ace, the bloat and estrogen is enough as is. Your mileage may vary.

Pros:

Strength.
Good Feelz.
Seems to burn fat, at least in my experience.
Effective at low doses AND high doses.
Doesn't destroy your blood work like tren or an oral. Minor impact on HDL, that's about it.

Cons:

It's wallet raper if you don't take a tiny dose. You don't need much though.
Bloat / Estrogen problems for some.
Insanely short half life, I believe it's something like 4 hours which is fuck all.

I always have some around to deal with crashed estrogen if need be.

 

[domestic-supply]

MENT is awesome

 

[domestic-supply]

I've run quite a bit of trest. Ace, E and Deconate. Stick to Ace, the bloat and estrogen is enough as is. Your mileage may vary.

Pros:

Strength.
Good Feelz.
Seems to burn fat, at least in my experience.
Effective at low doses AND high doses.
Doesn't destroy your blood work like tren or an oral. Minor impact on HDL, that's about it.

Cons:

It's wallet raper if you don't take a tiny dose. You don't need much though.
Bloat / Estrogen problems for some.
Insanely short half life, I believe it's something like 4 hours which is fuck all.

I always have some around to deal with crashed estrogen if need be.

I stack Trestolone Ace with Trestolone Enanthate. Take 0,3-0.5 ml of each 3 times per week

 

[JACKED_]

MENT is awesome

I definitely like it. Used it on my first rebound attempt and got from 201 to 240 in 30 days. Did not look bloated or fat either literally feels like it sent all of the food I was eating straight to the muscle lol

 

[Someguy22922]

I stack Trestolone Ace with Trestolone Enanthate. Take 0,3-0.5 ml of each 3 times per week

How do you find the half life of E? It feels like (this prob means nothing as going by feel) it's somewhere between a prop and phenyl prop.

 

[domestic-supply]

How do you find the half life of E? It feels like (this prob means nothing as going by feel) it's somewhere between a prop and phenyl prop.

Half life of Enanthate? Between prop and Phenylprop?? LOL
Of course not. Enanthate is a long lasting ester with a 4-5 days half life

 

[CompoundLifts31]

I've run quite a bit of trest. Ace, E and Deconate. Stick to Ace, the bloat and estrogen is enough as is. Your mileage may vary.

Pros:

Strength.
Good Feelz.
Seems to burn fat, at least in my experience.
Effective at low doses AND high doses.
Doesn't destroy your blood work like tren or an oral. Minor impact on HDL, that's about it.

Cons:

It's wallet raper if you don't take a tiny dose. You don't need much though.
Bloat / Estrogen problems for some.
Insanely short half life, I believe it's something like 4 hours which is fuck all.

I always have some around to deal with crashed estrogen if need be.

Thanks for all the great information! This is the kind of real world info I've been looking for...

However, Acetate half life is like 2-3 days bro! That's why it's necessary to do Tren ace at least EOD.

There are a couple orals that have a four to eight hour half life. Trestalone-no ester would possibly have a half life of hours, but not Acetate and definitely not Enanthate (5-ish days)

These half lifes vary based on the individual and it has a lot to do with metabolism, but it doesn't vary that much.

Another bit of information: after two half lifes (6 days), you would still have one quarter of your original dose active in your system.

A lot of people believe that after two "half lifes", the compound is out of your system and it makes sense that way, but that's not correct. It takes quite a few half lifes for the compound to leave your system completely.

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[Someguy22922]

Thanks for all the great information! This is the kind of real world info I've been looking for...

However, Acetate half life is like 2-3 days bro! That's why it's necessary to do Tren ace at least EOD.

There are a couple orals that have a four to eight hour half life. Trestalone-no ester would possibly have a half life of hours, but not Acetate and definitely not Enanthate (5-ish days)

These half lifes vary based on the individual and it has a lot to do with metabolism, but it doesn't vary that much.

Another bit of information: after two half lifes (6 days), you would still have one quarter of your original dose active in your system.

A lot of people believe that after two "half lifes", the compound is out of your system and it makes sense that way, but that's not correct. It takes quite a few half lifes for the compound to leave your system completely.

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I swear I'm not insane with my half life claims haha:

Pharmacokinetics of 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone in men and cynomolgus monkeys - PubMed

Testosterone and its esters are widely used for androgen replacement therapy. In the prostate, testosterone ins 5 alpha-reduced to dihydrotestosterone (DHT), which leads to an amplification of its stimulatory activity in this and other tissues that have significant 5 alpha-reductase activity...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

40 min half life, completely undetectable after 180 mins, sub q implants.

From Sci-Hub | Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of 7alpha-methyl-19- nortestosterone after intramuscular administration in healthy men. Human Reproduction, 12(5), 967–973 | 10.1093/humrep/12.5.967



MENT acetate was supplied by SRI International, Menlo Park -> From the study.

After 24 hours it's completely gone. If ALL hormones attached to the acetate ester have a 2-3 day half life, how is Ment Ace completely undetectable after 24 hours, at various dosages via IM injections in humans?

Just because the rule works in general, doesn't mean it works for everything. Ment is in and out fast. If it's in and out fast for Ace, why wouldn't it be for E? The hormone is the same even with a different ester.

I'm a data guy, and going by levels of bloat from the methyl estrogen, this makes sense to me.

 

[domestic-supply]

I swear I'm not insane with my half life claims haha:

Pharmacokinetics of 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone in men and cynomolgus monkeys - PubMed

Testosterone and its esters are widely used for androgen replacement therapy. In the prostate, testosterone ins 5 alpha-reduced to dihydrotestosterone (DHT), which leads to an amplification of its stimulatory activity in this and other tissues that have significant 5 alpha-reductase activity...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

40 min half life, completely undetectable after 180 mins, sub q implants.

From Sci-Hub | Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of 7alpha-methyl-19- nortestosterone after intramuscular administration in healthy men. Human Reproduction, 12(5), 967–973 | 10.1093/humrep/12.5.967

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MENT acetate was supplied by SRI International, Menlo Park -> From the study.

After 24 hours it's completely gone. If ALL hormones attached to the acetate ester have a 2-3 day half life, how is Ment Ace completely undetectable after 24 hours, at various dosages via IM injections in humans?

Just because the rule works in general, doesn't mean it works for everything. Ment is in and out fast. If it's in and out fast for Ace, why wouldn't it be for E? The hormone is the same even with a different ester.

I'm a data guy, and going by levels of bloat from the methyl estrogen, this makes sense to me.

If youre a data guy then please tell me how is it possible that 4mg 24hours after injections shows 0.4+-0.2 and 8mg which is twice 4mg shows 0.2 only 24hours after injection

 

[Someguy22922]

If youre a data guy then please tell me how is it possible that 4mg 24hours after injections shows 0.4+-0.2 and 8mg which is twice 4mg shows 0.2 only 24hours after injection

Look at the time scale, it goes from 8 hrs to 24 hrs, skipping a period of 16 hours. The half life is clearly less than 2-3 days, so regardless of the amount taken, it's almost out of you by 24 hours. The clearance rate / half life must insure the hormone is almost gone in your blood stream by 24 hours. It would be interesting to see the time interval covering more hours between 8 and 24, seems like a study design issue to me.

At 8 hours post injection, you can see 8 mg is 4.2 while 4 mg is 2.6.

From the paper:

The estimated elimination half-life was 224 min.

That's what, around 4 hours? Considering there's a 16 hour difference, so 4 half lives, this data makes sense to me.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

I swear I'm not insane with my half life claims haha:

Pharmacokinetics of 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone in men and cynomolgus monkeys - PubMed

Testosterone and its esters are widely used for androgen replacement therapy. In the prostate, testosterone ins 5 alpha-reduced to dihydrotestosterone (DHT), which leads to an amplification of its stimulatory activity in this and other tissues that have significant 5 alpha-reductase activity...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

40 min half life, completely undetectable after 180 mins, sub q implants.

From Sci-Hub | Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of 7alpha-methyl-19- nortestosterone after intramuscular administration in healthy men. Human Reproduction, 12(5), 967–973 | 10.1093/humrep/12.5.967

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MENT acetate was supplied by SRI International, Menlo Park -> From the study.

After 24 hours it's completely gone. If ALL hormones attached to the acetate ester have a 2-3 day half life, how is Ment Ace completely undetectable after 24 hours, at various dosages via IM injections in humans?

Just because the rule works in general, doesn't mean it works for everything. Ment is in and out fast. If it's in and out fast for Ace, why wouldn't it be for E? The hormone is the same even with a different ester.

I'm a data guy, and going by levels of bloat from the methyl estrogen, this makes sense to me.

Wow. I'm going to have to look into this more. After researching this stuff for twenty years, I've never heard of such a variance in half lives with the same ester in different compounds.

Thanks for providing that information and study. You've proved me wrong, but I'm ok with that because now I'm learning.

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[Someguy22922]

Wow. I'm going to have to look into this more. After researching this stuff for twenty years, I've never heard of such a variance in half lives with the same ester in different compounds.

Thanks for providing that information and study. You've proved me wrong, but I'm ok with that because now I'm learning.

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Dayum sir. Mad respect for this reply.

I swear other compounds are affected by this as well. Sadly there doesn't exist a lot of research in humans on AAS, so I'll prob never be able to confirm this unless I switch careers, which ain't happening haha.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Dayum sir. Mad respect for this reply.

I swear other compounds are affected by this as well. Sadly there doesn't exist a lot of research in humans on AAS, so I'll prob never be able to confirm this unless I switch careers, which ain't happening haha.

Yeah, definitely not here to argue bro. I'm almost 40 and pretty far past any keyboard flights, I'm gonna jump on a plane and come fight you in San Diego, meet me on the beach at sunset

I'm just here to learn, educate, and have fun. Not sure if it's in that order though...



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[Someguy22922]

Yeah, definitely not here to argue bro. I'm almost 40 and pretty far past any keyboard flights, I'm gonna jump on a plane and come fight you in San Diego, meet me on the beach at sunset

I'm just here to learn, educate, and have fun. Not sure if it's in that order though...



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I am in my mid 30s and also done with that shit. Got better stuff to do like eat, gym, work, woman, kids, etc...

If you have any theories or questions you are curious about feel free to DM me. I work in research and am usually down to read any sort of scientific literature.

 

[HRT]

I just scored some ment from PSL, was hoping to do eod shots.

But seems that ed shots are better with these findings .

 

[Someguy22922]

It's great stuff (trest), watch your estrogen and you'll feel awesome.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

I am in my mid 30s and also done with that shit. Got better stuff to do like eat, gym, work, woman, kids, etc...

If you have any theories or questions you are curious about feel free to DM me. I work in research and am usually down to read any sort of scientific literature.

So you think by that article, it could be more beneficial to hit 2xpd pinning with Trest Ace?

The dose would have to be small. 2xpd may have considerably better effects than EOD pinning based on this research.

Thoughts?

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[Someguy22922]

So you think by that article, it could be more beneficial to hit 2xpd pinning with Trest Ace?

The dose would have to be small. 2xpd may have considerably better effects than EOD pinning based on this research.

Thoughts?

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I am a bit insane and did twice daily as you suggested here. Slin pins with a 27 gauge do the trick if it's in MCT.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

I am a bit insane and did twice daily as you suggested here. Slin pins with a 27 gauge do the trick if it's in MCT.

How much per shot?

5-10mgs 2xpd?

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