Tipping? This is a frustration in my life and it really annoys me...

[Big Puppy]

You're a smart guy, we all know government will never be cut, efficient or reallocated taxes. It's like the saying, "there are no temporary government programs."

School tax is based off of local municipality levy figures. Money is collected from Town residents only. Any school increase such as teacher pay is allocated in property tax which the school portion makes up 60-70% of it. So, unfortunately higher pay = higher taxes.

thats not the problem. the problem is administrators making too much. one of our local superintendents makes $350. thats a bunch of bullshit. every time they raise taxes for teachers pay, administrators take it. so I won't vote for higher pay anymore. principles can make $200+. screw that

 

[Big Puppy]

How the fuck much % are we "supposed" to tip the server at a bar/restaurant?

If we use a % to calculate a tip why does a server at an expensive restaurant get a much higher tip than a less expensive restaurant? It's the same amount of work to do the job.

Why can't the restaurant/bar pay their employees at least minimum wage? Why is there a federal law that only requires employers to pay half of minimum wage to employees in this industry? Most restaurants way over charge for all food and drinks, not enough money for payroll? Every other type of business seems to manage.

Why are we required to pay the server for doing their job that the company who employs them should be doing? We have to pay half of their wage, but only if it's good service? I thought employees were supposed to do the best job they can no matter what the industry is, not to make more money to do their job.

Lastly, why are many other businesses that are not in the hospitality industry putting tip areas on their receipts? What's next, we tip the cashiers at the grocery stores for doing a good job checking our my food?

I go to an anti-aging place that does my laser and things like that on my face, they have that little print out for a tip on the credit card receipt, WHY? I just paid $650 for a Laser/PRP facial and I have to tip the employee that did their job?

there's a bunch of homos on here that would give you a facial for far cheaper than that, I'm sure

 

[Wiseguy]

according to who tho is 15% the "industry standard", is there some tipping standard chart?

I don’t know my friend but as far as I could remember that’s been the standard.

 

[CoachCabo]

Living in a tourist town I get to see the spectrum on this.

Canadians will barely tip if leave anything at all.

Mexicans run wait staff ragged like “Serve me peasant!” and will not leave a single centavo.

I see most Europeans are tipping, but I think they are adapting to our tipping culture while on holiday.

My wife being South African, will look at the little folder and check how much I leave some times and pull a note or two out if she thinks it’s too much. That is usually only if someone wasn’t to her standard. SA’s only give coin tips or tip 10% anywhere and everywhere. My family was scolding me for leaving to much tippage when we were visiting. Shit was so cheap there I felt like leaving 30-50% some times.

Generally I leave 20% here because a waiter’s wage can be $5-$10usd per day(!). We get “local discount” at most places and I add whatever they take off the bill to the waiter’s tip.

In the US I ask waiters if they get minimum wage sometimes. Not all states pay minimum wage to “tipped staff”. If they make $2/hr I consider that in my tipping. If they are making $17/hr or whatever idiotic minimum wage a state has, I give that consideration too.
I tip if the service is adequate. I tip generously when a waiter or someone providing a service is enthusiastic and doesn’t seem like I am bothering them. That latter attitude is rampant in the USA now.
If someone sucks, I won’t tip at all. Doesn’t bother me in the slightest. I will even tell them why but I suspect many will go through life thinking everyone else is fucked up, not them, ever.

That “service fee” thing pisses me off. Just charge what you are going to charge and fold it into entree cost. I don’t want to be involved in your bookkeeping. I see it in Commiefornia and in Washington. It’s ridiculous and if I know itbeforehand, you won’t see me walking through their door.

I once was hot on buying a BMW motorcycle. While we were doing the paperwork I was scrutinizing costs, line by line. One was “DAG” and it was a few hundred dollars. I asked and was told that it was “Dealer Advertisment Group”. It is to pay for billboards, magazine adds and the like.
I told the guy I wouldn’t pay it. I said he could fold it into the price of the bike but now that I knew what it was, I wasn’t about to pay for THEIR cost of doing business.

I bailed, went down to SF and bought it. No DAG. Dude in Santa Rosa missed out on a $20k bike sale for $300 or so. Even more insult to injury, I went down and bought a second bike from SF BMW about 14 months later.

People start protesting with their wallets and maybe shit like these “service fees” will stop. Or hide in the details anyway.

 

[heckler7]

I give my wife a big tip and if shes good the whole thing

 

[LickMyTATE]

I HATE THAT SHIT!!!!!!

It is literally so out of pocket and all the fault of the kids that all got trophies generation. They ACTUALLY think that they deserve peoples hard earned money just because they have blue dyed hair and are breathing oxygen, big ruhtard energy for sure.

Have a place called protein house I eat at frequently, and it is all super simple to make overpriced (but healthy) foods like chicken wraps etc, I pay with card and the little screen pops up with "recommended tip amounts" and its fucking laughable.15-20-25% tip options, a 25% tip on a $40 protein shake and chicken wrap? Yeah, no thanks LMAOOOOO!

Did I mention you literally walk up to order yourself and get your own drink? Why on gods green earth would I give this teenage girl $9 for pressing a button to place an order and that is all? Stupid.

 

[MTG]

OMG that made me laugh... so my friend that use to be a waiter...

one time I tip and plan to never come there again cause of TERRIBLE service.

He begins to take out a few dollars from the tip as we walk away LOL

Said they dont deserve it.

 

[heckler7]

the secret is to get a bean grinder it takes 5 seconds to grind your own coffee and brew it yourself, quit habitually paying for overpriced bullshit

 

[Milford King]

the secret is to get a bean grinder it takes 5 seconds to grind your own coffee and brew it yourself, quit habitually paying for overpriced bullshit

Lake city coffee has some really good stuff. Heard about it on ASF actually… I’m a coffee addict and they are a wholesome couple selling quality beans. I’ve been grinding my own beans for almost 7 years now.

Once you have good coffee you won’t be able to drink that shit coffee ever again.

 

[tommygunz]

Starbucks is possibly the worst coffee you can drink.
And I refuse to tip the server for pulling the handle on the big vat of their swill.

 

[Big Puppy]

Living in a tourist town I get to see the spectrum on this.

Canadians will barely tip if leave anything at all.

Mexicans run wait staff ragged like “Serve me peasant!” and will not leave a single centavo.

I see most Europeans are tipping, but I think they are adapting to our tipping culture while on holiday.

My wife being South African, will look at the little folder and check how much I leave some times and pull a note or two out if she thinks it’s too much. That is usually only if someone wasn’t to her standard. SA’s only give coin tips or tip 10% anywhere and everywhere. My family was scolding me for leaving to much tippage when we were visiting. Shit was so cheap there I felt like leaving 30-50% some times.

Generally I leave 20% here because a waiter’s wage can be $5-$10usd per day(!). We get “local discount” at most places and I add whatever they take off the bill to the waiter’s tip.

In the US I ask waiters if they get minimum wage sometimes. Not all states pay minimum wage to “tipped staff”. If they make $2/hr I consider that in my tipping. If they are making $17/hr or whatever idiotic minimum wage a state has, I give that consideration too.
I tip if the service is adequate. I tip generously when a waiter or someone providing a service is enthusiastic and doesn’t seem like I am bothering them. That latter attitude is rampant in the USA now.
If someone sucks, I won’t tip at all. Doesn’t bother me in the slightest. I will even tell them why but I suspect many will go through life thinking everyone else is fucked up, not them, ever.

That “service fee” thing pisses me off. Just charge what you are going to charge and fold it into entree cost. I don’t want to be involved in your bookkeeping. I see it in Commiefornia and in Washington. It’s ridiculous and if I know itbeforehand, you won’t see me walking through their door.

I once was hot on buying a BMW motorcycle. While we were doing the paperwork I was scrutinizing costs, line by line. One was “DAG” and it was a few hundred dollars. I asked and was told that it was “Dealer Advertisment Group”. It is to pay for billboards, magazine adds and the like.
I told the guy I wouldn’t pay it. I said he could fold it into the price of the bike but now that I knew what it was, I wasn’t about to pay for THEIR cost of doing business.

I bailed, went down to SF and bought it. No DAG. Dude in Santa Rosa missed out on a $20k bike sale for $300 or so. Even more insult to injury, I went down and bought a second bike from SF BMW about 14 months later.

People start protesting with their wallets and maybe shit like these “service fees” will stop. Or hide in the details anyway.

I tip well when they deserve it. We walk into our regular restaurants and get premium service and greeted by name.

I hate multitasking. When i'm waiting too long for a drink, and they come out with 3 tables worth of drinks, it's counts against them.
Bought a Honda dirt bike last year. They had a $500 warranty. Told them i wouldn't pay it. They wouldn't take it off. Told them i'll never buy from them again and left them a shitty review.
Hate to say that i bought it, but it was the only one and none were available anywhere else.

Totally agree with your sentiment

 

[CoffeeS]

My Grandmother was a waitress at an upscale Italian place from the late 50's to the mid 80's. When I was in grade school and high school, I bussed tables on all of the big holidays. A 15% tip was considered the standard and anything more was a bonus. The waitresses made great money there and they always split their tips with the bartenders, bus boys and the dishwashers because that was where a lot of the work was done; clean utensils and glasses, fast clean up and resetting of tables, for quick turnaround on tables, giving the waitress another chance to make more tips.

You know when a larger tip is deserved and you know when it's not. I try to stick around 20% and if they deserve more for being extra attentive, I give it.

I was at an upper scale restaurant in Montana and ordered a filet. The filet came out on the plate with 3 asparagus spears, a dallop of some bullshit hippie mashed potato crap. The filet was about 2x the size of the fork. $48 plus the cost of the sides. I asked for a double bourbon, neat. When the waitress brought my drink and asked how everything was, I asked her why she would serve a steak this small. I sent it back, told her to take it off my bill. Paid for my wife's ribeye, which looked great, and my bourbon. I left no tip because the waitress and the cook knew it was wrong to even platter that gumball size piece of meat. Fuck, it's Montana - they grow beef out here!

 

[CoachCabo]

I always ask the weight of the meat when ordering. Maybe that’s a bodybuilder thing? Every time they seem to know why I asking.

 

[tommygunz]

I always ask the weight of the meat when ordering. Maybe that’s a bodybuilder thing? Every time they seem to know why I asking.

How else are you gonna figure out your macros?

 

[Seattlesbest]

If service is good I tip 30%, the least I would tip IF service was awful, and its the servers fault, which is rare tho, then it's a 10% tip. They have to deal with the kitchen and bar and that is out of their control.

I would never walk out of a restaurant or bar and not tip, that is so fucked up, they only make $4/hour.

And remember if service is slow, food is bad, etc. its not the servers fault.

My point has nothing to do with the servers, it's WTF do we tip in the first place, and why does it seem like everyone regardless of the industry wants tips these days.

Who makes 4$ an hour? This a restaurant in the hills of Virginia where they still have slaves.

 

[romart]

Increasing teachers pay is fine, as long as you're personally willing to pay more in property taxes.

I'm in my 16th year and make decent money plus my military retirement pay but live 25 miles from my school. I can't afford to live in that county.

 

[tommygunz]

Who makes 4$ an hour? This a restaurant in the hills of Virginia where they still have slaves

Well this was the capital of the Confederacy……so

 

[Big_Ed]

Well this was the capital of the Confederacy……so

I'm pretty sure they're mad they have to even pay $4 an hour.

 

[tommygunz]

I'm pretty sure they're mad they have to even pay $4 an hour.

The server minimum wage here is $2 an hour

 

[Big_Ed]

The server minimum wage here is $2 an hour

$16 for a full days work... damn And if you happen to eat at one of those places, the blame is all on you if you don't tip well. No matter how horrible the food or how bad the service.

 

[heavyiron]

Lake city coffee has some really good stuff. Heard about it on ASF actually… I’m a coffee addict and they are a wholesome couple selling quality beans. I’ve been grinding my own beans for almost 7 years now.

Once you have good coffee you won’t be able to drink that shit coffee ever again.

Been using Lake City for years. The dark roast is strong and smooth. Love their beans.

I tip 20% to 30% for any bill up to around $100. I drop down to 10% to 15% if it's over $200-$300 in most cases. During covid I tipped more because so many places were closed.

 

[tommygunz]

$16 for a full days work... damn And if you happen to eat at one of those places, the blame is all on you if you don't tip well. No matter how horrible the food or how bad the service.

My nephew works at a brewery here and makes $300-400 a shift in tips on good days

 

[implicitnewt]

Other countries do not tip servers and if you try its actually an insult to them.

We had an Italian company looking to do a startup in the area briefly, and the guys that came in from there never tipped the girls.

 

[GivePenisaChance22]

I get particularly annoyed at the electronic ordering machines where they ask you for a tip. It's a f*cking machine!! I didn't even have any human interaction and you're still asking for a tip!!!

 

[CoffeeS]

How about the "Would you like to round up and donate to the local..." That's a tax scheme. That business uses your money to donate to a charity of their choice and get the tax benefit while you pay more for shitty fast food or inflated groceries at places like Whole Foods. When you say "NO" they get offended because the woketard at the counter / drive thru doesn't understand taxes, income, charitable contributions...

 

[CoachCabo]

How about the "Would you like to round up and donate to the local..." That's a tax scheme. That business uses your money to donate to a charity of their choice and get the tax benefit while you pay more for shitty fast food or inflated groceries at places like Whole Foods. When you say "NO" they get offended because the woketard at the counter / drive thru doesn't understand taxes, income, charitable contributions...

For a while there the question was “Would you like to round up for vets?” The implication being you are a total asshole if you decline.
I would always ask “How will that benefit me? I’m a vet.” Not once did I get an answer.

 

[CoffeeS]

For a while there the question was “Would you like to round up for vets?” The implication being you are a total asshole if you decline.
I would always ask “How will that benefit me? I’m a vet.” Not once did I get an answer.

yeah, I remember that too. I always said we finally get a little recognition and the MFers that never did shit capitalize off of us. I told my father they are going to wear out the welcome fast and people will be less apt to assist a real Vet organization.