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Altenator_6

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Ok... So i have always thought you wanted to keep your test higher than 19-nor but have recently seen different opinions.

I've never personally used tren but would like to try it in the future.

Educate me!! Go!
 
Altenator_6 said:
Ok... So i have always thought you wanted to keep your test higher than 19-nor but have recently seen different opinions.

I've never personally used tren but would like to try it in the future.

Educate me!! Go!
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Some run it equally or higher, most run their test higher than tren. Some will say one works well, some will say the other works as good.

Imo you really just have to experiment and see how you body reacts with it.
I would suggest if you've never ran tren before to start slow and run it less than test but that's just my opinion.

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I’m with the Higher Test lower Tren as well. I usually run 300-400 of Tren a week and around 500-750mg of test a week. Never using Tren you will probably want to start lower. That’s what works for me. If I start to get Tren sides usually upping my test little by little seems to make them go away. With that said I see a lot of guys that I respect now a days that do the exact opposite. My point is with both options we found out by trying and seeing what worked best for us. Id listen to everyone and pick one way. I personally think Tren is awesome when you find that perfect ratio.......AR
 
I am definitely on the higher Tren train, it feels 100% cleaner for me. Like stayed above try it out and see what you enjoy better.

Libido
Energy
Controlled aggression
Strength
Results
Less sides

Is what I get when running Tren with a maintenance dose of Test.

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Seems like most here tend to lean the way i was thinking. Low tren / high test. When i finally decide to try it, i will probably start with 500 test and 200-250 tren
 
I think running test atleast somewhat higher is never a bad idea especially with 19-Nor compounds. There's always a handful of guys who so fine, or even better with lower test but generally higher test is the gold standard.
 
I like higher test but only because I don't feel as flat. If you're going for shred mode, drop the test low and see. Just try it both ways and form your own opinion.
 
ArgonCoagulator said:
I think running test atleast somewhat higher is never a bad idea especially with 19-Nor compounds. There's always a handful of guys who so fine, or even better with lower test but generally higher test is the gold standard.
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Sorry guys, that sounded gay as hell, lol.. I meant to say "who do fine".
 
High tren 209-250 test a week for me . Makes it a lot less pin volume and no need for an ai . I have also never had any prolactin related problems .
 
frank zazz said:
High tren 209-250 test a week for me . Makes it a lot less pin volume and no need for an ai . I have also never had any prolactin related problems .
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This is actually how I prefer to run it as well. With most cycles I prefer high Test, but when running Tren I prefer high Tren and low Test.

Not really sure why, but I've tried it both ways and that just worked better for me.
 
sloppyj said:
i like higher test but only because i don't feel as flat. If you're going for shred mode, drop the test low and see. Just try it both ways and form your own opinion.
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ahhh... Yes. I had not considered the "flatness" aspect of it. But this is true im sure. Im not a competitor, just a regular guy, so i like that big swole af look but not too soft and mushy...
 
I’ve always ran tren high but I also always use caber. I have great results and no sides. It’s main cycle I run. An example is
250mg test a week
50mg of tren ace every day
Caber 1/2mg every 4 days
Adex 1/2mg every 7 days

And I also use insulin needles to reduce scare tissues (29G 1/2” 100iu)
 
kagemorris10 said:
i’ve always ran tren high but i also always use caber. I have great results and no sides. It’s main cycle i run. An example is
250mg test a week
50mg of tren ace every day
caber 1/2mg every 4 days
adex 1/2mg every 7 days

and i also use insulin needles to reduce scare tissues (29g 1/2” 100iu)
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i've recently been somewhat schooled on the option of insulin pins basically micro doseing subq..... Does this really work?
 
Seems like the biggest concern for running higher 19-nor is dick issues...... Could you just take 5 mg of cialis every day? This should help with dick problems, as well as give you a good pump.....i hear guys say they use it strictly for a pre-workout to get a great pump
 
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SloppyJ said:
I like higher test but only because I don't feel as flat. If you're going for shred mode, drop the test low and see. Just try it both ways and form your own opinion.
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Like pussy or ass sex ratios: both can be done and enjoyable.

Max
 
if its your first tren cycle then I would go low and see how you handle the side first, test and tren compete for the same receptor thats why some people run one lower and one higher
 
So I gotta a question for all the vets put there. Would you recommend Tren base for preworkout? Say Id be running Test, Npp and primo and through in a lil Tren base for a boast instead of an oral. And how would it compare? Also whats the bog difference between Tren base in water like (Androxine) or Tren oil base. Besides the obvious whats the best? Im trying to get the benefits without the sides. I pin my gear every day so I try to keep my levels balanced. No spikes or troughs. And info and knowledge on this would be great!
 
Personally I have always ran Tren E at around 200-400mg/week and SUS250 (800-1000mg) or T400 (800mg) on blast.

Have not gone higher than that with Tren.
 
502Kev said:
Seems like higher test works best fo me too. 19 Nor's don't like my dick too well. I can pound with it, or beat it till it is sore lol
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You need Cabergoline with 19-nors because of the progesterone that’s the hormone released after orgasms inhibiting erections. Caber clears that up and your dick is hard 20hrs of the day. Also some use Prami but it’s got harsh sides.
 
KageMorris10 said:
You need Cabergoline with 19-nors because of the progesterone that’s the hormone released after orgasms inhibiting erections. Caber clears that up and your dick is hard 20hrs of the day. Also some use Prami but it’s got harsh sides.
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I have yet to hear someone say anything good about Prami. Caber is apparently the way to go.
 
a high dose of tren is a perfectly safe low dose of test especially for someone who is experienced with test so I can't imagine why anyone would ever be doing low test and high tren especially if its their first time or two with tren when they should be running a low dose anyway (175MG-200MG which is a generous TRT dose of test)
 
MustardTiger said:
a high dose of tren is a perfectly safe low dose of test especially for someone who is experienced with test so I can't imagine why anyone would ever be doing low test and high tren especially if its their first time or two with tren when they should be running a low dose anyway (175MG-200MG which is a generous TRT dose of test)
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Come again?
 
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