Test & Npp cycle guide

[King of heartz]

About to pull the trigger for cycle #3 and I’m wanting to run test&NPP, I’m trying to keep this cycle at 8 weeks and I need some help for NPP dosages. I don’t wanna go over 300mg of TestP because I feel it is plenty for me at this point in time. I hear the ratio is 2:1 but I wanted to confirm that first. some questions I have and other newbies may have: What’re your experiences with NPP vs Deca? What AI do you prefer? Which ester do you prefer? Any Problems with ED on NPP/Deca? Anything you think someone should know when running NPP/Deca?

 

[Dano22]

I’m still new to the game. Everyone reacts different to different stuff. Here’s my experience. Deca made me emotional, jealous, skin issues. Deca dick got me and it sucked. That was stupid high dose Deca and test for a beginner though. Recovered , went to Sust 5-600 and NPP 350, adex twice a week sometimes. NPP makes my nipples puffy no Matter what but no itch or gyno . P5p 300mg before bed , makes me feel unwell if I take it during day . Was a amazing cycle . My opinion, NPP and test all the way . Veterans guys will have more experience than me, just giving my opinion

 

[Twk303]

Are you looking to run a cut cycle? Test p is pinning often, daily for stable blood levels, Npp low dose is good to cut also. You can get away with pinning Npp eod at min or every 3rd day. If it was me run the Npp at 200mg total and see how you feel but the spot might be 300mg. We won't know til you try it

 

[King of heartz]

Are you looking to run a cut cycle? Test p is pinning often, daily for stable blood levels, Npp low dose is good to cut also. You can get away with pinning Npp eod at min or every 3rd day. If it was me run the Npp at 200mg total and see how you feel but the spot might be 300mg. We won't know til you try it

I’m going for slight recomp and bulk, aiming to really put some size on my back. 200mg sounds good to me though, what dose would be good to combat ED? I don’t wanna push more than 3-400 because of water sides and my body gets way really hot at 500. I’ll also have cialis on hand for ED should it get out of hand.

 

[Altenator_6]

Take 5-7 mg of the Cialis every day for maintenance. It is great for blood pressure as well.

 

[A.font401]

If your dead set on this and very low dose I’d run the test p at 300 and npp at 300-400 a week as well. Have caber on hand if needed but it’s a low dose so you might not need it. I run 400mg npp and don’t need it at all. As far as water just keep your diet good. Alittle water weight is good.

 

[Twk303]

I’m going for slight recomp and bulk, aiming to really put some size on my back. 200mg sounds good to me though, what dose would be good to combat ED? I don’t wanna push more than 3-400 because of water sides and my body gets way really hot at 500. I’ll also have cialis on hand for ED should it get out of hand.

I'm sitting at 450mg of Npp weekly with zero issues. Very little water weight, no Ed at all.
Can't compare Npp to deca, deca has sides where I'll never run it again.
Only issue with Npp is you have to pin more frequently then you would with deca. But since you're pinning test p already you'll be fine

 

[BTC]

Jesus.... if you're getting sides that bad from the 19-nor then you're not taking enough AI for starters. Ditch the adex, its shit. Run aromasin. If you keep the estrogen in check it'll lessen the nandrolone sides. If it doesn't then you need caber.
For me.... npp is garbage. It literally does zero to me even at 500mg wk. Tried 3 times with top shelf labs. Deca all the way.

All the shitty skin, prolactin induced acne, moody issues, dick problems are all a result of not enough ancillary control. I can run a gram of test and 600mg deca without even bp issues.
Work on your ancillaries. No reason to have that amount of sides.

 

[Dano22]

BTC I absolutely agree. Deca was great for me for 8 weeks at 300. No bloat. Was feeling and looking awesome . This was before I found a forum, only had gym rat friend losers advice and shot the dose up on test and deca. Then problems hit like crazy. My own rookie mistake. Can’t blame Deca . Off the bat at 350 NPP felt better though. I’m running high test only now and it’s way better than both those Nandrolone cycles though. Prefer it way better. Saw nothing drastic out of NPP compared to this short while on high test alone.

 

[STTM]

100mg Test and 100mg NPP both pinned eod. Add in proviron 50mg/day or Mast Prop at the same dosage as the Test and NPP and you have the best cycle money can buy.

 

[GarlicChicken]

About to pull the trigger for cycle #3 and I’m wanting to run test&NPP, I’m trying to keep this cycle at 8 weeks and I need some help for NPP dosages. I don’t wanna go over 300mg of TestP because I feel it is plenty for me at this point in time. I hear the ratio is 2:1 but I wanted to confirm that first. some questions I have and other newbies may have: What’re your experiences with NPP vs Deca? What AI do you prefer? Which ester do you prefer? Any Problems with ED on NPP/Deca? Anything you think someone should know when running NPP/Deca?

I appreciate your eagerness to keep your doses lower. It's a good policy.

As far as test:nandrolone ratio, it's honestly a purely subjective thing. Some guys like a 2:1, some like 1:1, some like more nandrolone. Me personally with test and npp, I like a 1:1. But that said, I always run it with an equal amount of mast too. Seems to keep the water retention down a little and mast just always makes me feel better overall.

I like NPP over deca for shorter blasts. Deca just takes too long to start seeing results, NPP is quick. NPP also seems to hold a little less water,but water retention is mostly diet. Longer runs I prefer deca because I'm work out on pinning frequently.

I prefer aromasin for my AI. Adex seems to cause e2 rebound when I miss doses, which I'm bad about with that. However, if the aromasin isn't enough or I have to run way too much, I'll switch to adex.

ED can always happen with any gear, but especially nandrolone. For me I don't really get ED, I just can't hardly get off. It's fucking annoying because I only have so much cardio to give before I'm done lol. That's where the mast comes in and really helps for me big time. I still take longer to get off but it's not nearly as bad as it is without the mast.

Also as started above, I run 50mg P5P before bed with nandrolone. Helps keep the gyno from popping up. These days I have to use nolva on anything above 150mg of test even with the AI because my gyno is getting super sensitive. Good to have plenty of nolva and some caber on hand in case you need it. I always have a large stash of both just in case.

 

[King of heartz]

Take 5-7 mg of the Cialis every day for maintenance. It is great for blood pressure as well.

Thank you

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If your dead set on this and very low dose I’d run the test p at 300 and npp at 300-400 a week as well. Have caber on hand if needed but it’s a low dose so you might not need it. I run 400mg npp and don’t need it at all. As far as water just keep your diet good. Alittle water weight is good.

Thanks so much your advice is much appreciated

 

[King of heartz]

I appreciate your eagerness to keep your doses lower. It's a good policy.

As far as test:nandrolone ratio, it's honestly a purely subjective thing. Some guys like a 2:1, some like 1:1, some like more nandrolone. Me personally with test and npp, I like a 1:1. But that said, I always run it with an equal amount of mast too. Seems to keep the water retention down a little and mast just always makes me feel better overall.

I like NPP over deca for shorter blasts. Deca just takes too long to start seeing results, NPP is quick. NPP also seems to hold a little less water,but water retention is mostly diet. Longer runs I prefer deca because I'm work out on pinning frequently.

I prefer aromasin for my AI. Adex seems to cause e2 rebound when I miss doses, which I'm bad about with that. However, if the aromasin isn't enough or I have to run way too much, I'll switch to adex.

ED can always happen with any gear, but especially nandrolone. For me I don't really get ED, I just can't hardly get off. It's fucking annoying because I only have so much cardio to give before I'm done lol. That's where the mast comes in and really helps for me big time. I still take longer to get off but it's not nearly as bad as it is without the mast.

Also as started above, I run 50mg P5P before bed with nandrolone. Helps keep the gyno from popping up. These days I have to use nolva on anything above 150mg of test even with the AI because my gyno is getting super sensitive. Good to have plenty of nolva and some caber on hand in case you need it. I always have a large stash of both just in case.

GARLIC! It’s always great to hear from you man your advice hasn’t lead me astray yet, you hit the nail on the head with this one. Thanks a ton.

 

[MONSTRO]

About to pull the trigger for cycle #3 and I’m wanting to run test&NPP, I’m trying to keep this cycle at 8 weeks and I need some help for NPP dosages. I don’t wanna go over 300mg of TestP because I feel it is plenty for me at this point in time. I hear the ratio is 2:1 but I wanted to confirm that first. some questions I have and other newbies may have: What’re your experiences with NPP vs Deca? What AI do you prefer? Which ester do you prefer? Any Problems with ED on NPP/Deca? Anything you think someone should know when running NPP/Deca?

if you go for 8 weeks go with short esters for quick gains .
Test Prop 100mg EOD
NPP 100mg EOD

I prefer aromasin and only use whan i needed ( when i fell sensitivity ) , have tamoxifen on hand to