T3; need knowledge/tips and the truth

[TotalWar]

Hey guys. Been on about every compound except t3. I really am considering it for some next step fat loss when I am ready (obv diet/training, macros and discipline will be on point). I really need knowledge and experiences here, please. Half the guys I talk to say avoid at all costs it will eat all your muscle, ect. The other half say it's amazing with no shutdown issues after and on AAS they don't lose any muscle. Can some people give me their experiences here please?

 

[Gibby]

I am currently using T3 for the first time as well. Running 50mcg a day for the past two weeks. As long as your natural T3 production is currently good when you taper off your your body will pick back up where you left off. It works off a feedback loop in the body. Once it sees an exogenous source the natural body regulates the production and when you taper off it will upregulate your natural production again. Unless you were deficient from the get-go. Have you pulled blood to see where your levels are currently?


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[TotalWar]

I am currently using T3 for the first time as well. Running 50mcg a day for the past two weeks. As long as your natural T3 production is currently good when you taper off your your body will pick back up where you left off. It works off a feedback loop in the body. Once it sees an exogenous source the natural body regulates the production and when you taper off it will upregulate your natural production again. Unless you were deficient from the get-go. Have you pulled blood to see where your levels are currently?


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Yes bro, thanks so much for the info. I will post the numbers when I get a chance. So at 50mcg, are you noticing any muscle catabolism?

 

[Gibby]

Not that I am noticing, currently on Trt which helps slow that process down/prevent who truly knows. I haven't done a DEXA scan to prove that. I wouldn't push any higher dose unless I was on a cycle and getting ready for a show. I know people will go as high as a 100mcg but am not trying to be show ready. Just drop some extra weight before an upcoming cruise and then into bulk. Previous few months I let my appetite get a head of me and packed on an extra 15 lbs of unnecessary weight.


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[TotalWar]

Not that I am noticing, currently on Trt which helps slow that process down/prevent who truly knows. I haven't done a DEXA scan to prove that. I wouldn't push any higher dose unless I was on a cycle and getting ready for a show. I know people will go as high as a 100mcg but am not trying to be show ready. Just drop some extra weight before an upcoming cruise and then into bulk. Previous few months I let my appetite get a head of me and packed on an extra 15 lbs of unnecessary weight.


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Got it, yeah that makes sense. So 50 looking good for fat loss so far? Or too early to tell

 

[Gibby]

Yeah, cutting weight pretty quickly, and also using some Sema simultaneously to help out with appetite suppression. I also noticed on my last blood work my A1c was elevated from previous blood work due to poor eating habits recently but want to see if the Sema would help with that as well. Just trying things out and seeing how my body responds.


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[tgrady]

What T3 is being used?

 

[tgrady]

Yeah, cutting weight pretty quickly, and also using some Sema simultaneously to help out with appetite suppression. I also noticed on my last blood work my A1c was elevated from previous blood work due to poor eating habits recently but want to see if the Sema would help with that as well. Just trying things out and seeing how my body responds.


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What T3 you use?

 

[TotalWar]

Yeah, cutting weight pretty quickly, and also using some Sema simultaneously to help out with appetite suppression. I also noticed on my last blood work my A1c was elevated from previous blood work due to poor eating habits recently but want to see if the Sema would help with that as well. Just trying things out and seeing how my body responds.


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Awesome dude. Keep me updated. I think I'm gunna give it a whirl.

 

[TotalWar]

What T3 is being used?

I know that was meant for him but I have the pharma brand that falls in line with bitroion or whatever. (T3 t4 mix)

 

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[TotalWar]

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[Ziath11]

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[TotalWar]

All love bro! We’ll hit that aquarium in Connecticut soon 😂

Hahahaha I'll meet you there

 

[Gibby]

What T3 you use?

I am currently using Recon, liquid form.


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[TotalWar]

I am currently using Recon, liquid form.


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BTW, I need still to do full thyroid panel but from regular bloods, my TSH is at 1.7. Not sure what that means, it's on the low end but. I'm not that educated on all things thyroid.

 

[Gibby]

BTW, I need still to do full thyroid panel but from regular bloods, my TSH is at 1.7. Not sure what that means, it's on the low end but. I'm not that educated on all things thyroid.

T3 (Triiodothyronine): It is an active thyroid hormone that plays a crucial role in regulating metabolism, energy production, and body temperature.

T4 (Thyroxine): It is another thyroid hormone, and the majority of thyroid hormones produced by the thyroid gland are T4. T4 is converted into the active T3 hormone in various tissues.

TSH (Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone): It is produced by the pituitary gland and controls the thyroid gland's hormone production. When T3 and T4 levels are low in the body, TSH levels rise to stimulate the thyroid to produce more hormones.

The levels of these hormones in the body are indicative of thyroid function:

High T3 and T4 levels: Can lead to hyperthyroidism, which results in an overactive thyroid gland, causing symptoms like weight loss, increased heart rate, and anxiety.

Low T3 and T4 levels: Can lead to hypothyroidism, an underactive thyroid gland, causing symptoms like fatigue, weight gain, and cold sensitivity.

High TSH levels: Usually indicate an underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism), as the pituitary gland releases more TSH to stimulate the thyroid.
Low TSH levels: Usually associated with hyperthyroidism, as the pituitary gland reduces TSH production to decrease thyroid activity.


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[TotalWar]

T3 (Triiodothyronine): It is an active thyroid hormone that plays a crucial role in regulating metabolism, energy production, and body temperature.

T4 (Thyroxine): It is another thyroid hormone, and the majority of thyroid hormones produced by the thyroid gland are T4. T4 is converted into the active T3 hormone in various tissues.

TSH (Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone): It is produced by the pituitary gland and controls the thyroid gland's hormone production. When T3 and T4 levels are low in the body, TSH levels rise to stimulate the thyroid to produce more hormones.

The levels of these hormones in the body are indicative of thyroid function:

High T3 and T4 levels: Can lead to hyperthyroidism, which results in an overactive thyroid gland, causing symptoms like weight loss, increased heart rate, and anxiety.

Low T3 and T4 levels: Can lead to hypothyroidism, an underactive thyroid gland, causing symptoms like fatigue, weight gain, and cold sensitivity.

High TSH levels: Usually indicate an underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism), as the pituitary gland releases more TSH to stimulate the thyroid.
Low TSH levels: Usually associated with hyperthyroidism, as the pituitary gland reduces TSH production to decrease thyroid activity.


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Yea I'm on the low end and there's no way I'm anywhere close to hyper so lmao again nothing from medicine makes much sense. Thanks bro

 

[tgrady]

I am currently using Recon, liquid form.


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I would love to try it but they only accept crypto?

 

[Matt88]

BTW, I need still to do full thyroid panel but from regular bloods, my TSH is at 1.7. Not sure what that means, it's on the low end but. I'm not that educated on all things thyroid.

1.7 is a great spot to be. I take t4 and on t4 mine stays between 1 and 2. My thyroid is sluggish without taking T4 but still in what my primary care doc considers the normal range despite it having a negative impact on my metabolism and such.

 

[TotalWar]

1.7 is a great spot to be. I take t4 and on t4 mine stays between 1 and 2. My thyroid is sluggish without taking T4 but still in what my primary care doc considers the normal range despite it having a negative impact on my metabolism and such.

Thanks bro. Do you think I should not fuck with t3 then or? Is there a risk of thyroid not getting back to a normal state? I can't seem to get a clear answer from the research

 

[TotalWar]

Greetings, @Wardamn . Chime in if you have any knowledge on this plz bro.

 

[Gibby]

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[Matt88]

Thanks bro. Do you think I should not fuck with t3 then or? Is there a risk of thyroid not getting back to a normal state? I can't seem to get a clear answer from the research

I am not experienced enough to say for sure on rather or not it can cause long term issues regarding your thyroid.

T3 being that it is active thyroid hormone is very very powerful and can cause a lot of issues if you take to much. I would not start any higher than 25mcg and I would not go above 50mcg under any circumstances unless you are working with an experienced coach who can help make sure you aren`t losing your gains etc. The muscle catabolism is a real thing and it can happen fast as well. I believe T3 will really flatten you out as well and make it look like you have not had any carbs even if you have. It`s generally the practice to be taking anabolics that help maintain muscle when using it. Tren, Primo, Var, etc just to give some examples.

I know some people take T4 and T3 together but the T4 dose is much higher than the T3 dose. An example is the EP T3+T4 product which is 120mcg T4 and 30mcg T3. Not trying to give you a sells pitch lol. Just giving you that as a reference point.

I love taking T4 bc it`s inactive thyroid hormone so it has to be converted by the body into T3 before it can cause any issues. When taking HGH it`s a good idea to take T4 for a lot of people due to the T4 suppression. Taking T4 really helps keep my metabolism firing on all cylinders 24/7. Even if I had to take months off due to a severe injury I would still take T4 with my TRT just bc It puts me in the part of the refrence range where I want to be. I`ve also checked T4, Free T4, T3, Free T3, reverse t3 etc while on it to make sure I`m not in a crazy place.

Sorry I was not more help. Maybe someone with more knowledge and experience with T3 will chime in.

 

[Meetketchup]

IMO…If you are not a high level competitor T3 is not something you want to mess with. The risk reward is just not there. Too many horror stories of friends having issues post use.

 

[TotalWar]

I am not experienced enough to say for sure on rather or not it can cause long term issues regarding your thyroid.

T3 being that it is active thyroid hormone is very very powerful and can cause a lot of issues if you take to much. I would not start any higher than 25mcg and I would not go above 50mcg under any circumstances unless you are working with an experienced coach who can help make sure you aren`t losing your gains etc. The muscle catabolism is a real thing and it can happen fast as well. I believe T3 will really flatten you out as well and make it look like you have not had any carbs even if you have. It`s generally the practice to be taking anabolics that help maintain muscle when using it. Tren, Primo, Var, etc just to give some examples.

I know some people take T4 and T3 together but the T4 dose is much higher than the T3 dose. An example is the EP T3+T4 product which is 120mcg T4 and 30mcg T3. Not trying to give you a sells pitch lol. Just giving you that as a reference point.

I love taking T4 bc it`s inactive thyroid hormone so it has to be converted by the body into T3 before it can cause any issues. When taking HGH it`s a good idea to take T4 for a lot of people due to the T4 suppression. Taking T4 really helps keep my metabolism firing on all cylinders 24/7. Even if I had to take months off due to a severe injury I would still take T4 with my TRT just bc It puts me in the part of the refrence range where I want to be. I`ve also checked T4, Free T4, T3, Free T3, reverse t3 etc while on it to make sure I`m not in a crazy place.

Sorry I was not more help. Maybe someone with more knowledge and experience with T3 will chime in.

No dude that was very helpful actually. Thank you so much.

 

[Big Puppy]

tsh of 1.7 is great. mine is usually lower than that.
T3 is very catabolic
High free T3 lowers potassium, can be deadly
insulin lowers potassium
be careful

 

[TotalWar]

tsh of 1.7 is great. mine is usually lower than that.
T3 is very catabolic
High free T3 lowers potassium, can be deadly
insulin lowers potassium
be careful

Will do bro. Think I'll pass on the t3 for now. Def not needed as I don't compete.

 

[Wiseguy]

I take 50 mcg per day along with 40 mcg of Clen daily when prepping for show. I shred fat like there is. It tomorrow. Of course , diet and cardio is on point.

 

[TotalWar]

I take 50 mcg per day along with 40 mcg of Clen daily when prepping for show. I shred fat like there is. It tomorrow. Of course , diet and cardio is on point.

Thanks wiseguy. Wat about muscle catabolism? Does aas hold the muscle?