Superdrol, Test E, EQ, Insulin, HGH, IGF-3 Cycle

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Hello everybody!
I had put one thread before about a cycle, but im gonna change, bcs of own care etc.

I want your experiences, have u did the same/similar cycles, dosages, gains…
mostly what im interested in is the EQ..
tryed once in 600mg/w, i felt great, enjoyed the vascularity and pumps, gonna donate blood during cycle.
First thinked to run tren with it, but ill drop it, i like it, but my appetite surpress and mess alot with my head.
Its gonna be a BULK cycle.
So the cycle gonna look like this:

Superdrol 1-4 20mg/day
Test E 1-14 750mg/w
EQ 1-14 1g/w

HGH 5iu/day 5on/2off
Insulin 5iu morning/5 iu post-wo
Igf1 LR-3 50mcg/ed

accept all opinions, any changes to the cycle are welcome, what u think bout adding mast 400mg into this cycle? will this gonna be too much? never did mast.

Im opened for opinions! 😁

edit: dont waste ur time writing bout liver toxity and sdrol, i know.

edit2: is this proportion test/eq good to the eq anti estro effects or should i up test to 1g?
 

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Won’t know without blood work how EQ affects ur estrogen. Personally if test is ran higher then EQ then my estrogen is in the dumps. I require more test than EQ to have good estrogen. As far as the rest nobody knows your stats, goals, experience. That’s quite a cycle so I hope you know what your doing.
 

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Sdrol is hard to tolerate everyday..and at 20mgs..
I use only 10mgs and only for pre-WO..
EQ for many reduces Estrogen, it could possibly crash you..
If it's bulk your after, many combine Deca or NPP with EQ..
Then you could lower the EQ..

Not sure of your experience..those are big numbers..which equal big sides..
Test..600
EQ..400
Deca..400
Would be more effective and less sides..
Just a thought..
Z...
 

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Sdrol is hard to tolerate everyday..and at 20mgs..
I use only 10mgs and only for pre-WO..
EQ for many reduces Estrogen, it could possibly crash you..
If it's bulk your after, many combine Deca or NPP with EQ..
Then you could lower the EQ..

Not sure of your experience..those are big numbers..which equal big sides..
Test..600
EQ..400
Deca..400
Would be more effective and less sides..
Just a thought..
Z...
Agree there. Really only a test and EQ cycle as far as oils, I don’t count Sdrol because I only use it PWO as well. As suggested I’d add NPP. Currently what I’m on Test, Bold Cyp (EQ) and NPP I’d be on Primo instead of Npp but the hair shedding was real, also on Gh, but $$ won’t allow for a long run. Npp definitely for bulking purposes and cut the Sdrol PWO, not sure how one can tolerate the lethargy especially on oral Sdrol ED for 4 weeks.
 

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Right guys thank you for the opinions! bout the sdrol, i tolerate very well, gonna down to 10mg pwo on work days,
got liver support aswell, gonna down eq to 800,
add deca 400

so its gonna look like this:
1-4 sdrol 10mg/pwo on workout days only
1-14 Test E 750mg
1-14 EQ 800mg
1-10 Deca 400mg
10-14 Winstrol 50mg/day
 

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Imo that's 14 weeks of wasted pins with the eq..
Sdrol.def not for me..
I would just do test and a nandrolone if it were me .mayb mast or primo..some guys really like eq ..I'm not 1 of them
 

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^agree with^
if your gonna go through the trouble of pinning that much EQ...run it longer...or start earlier. 20 weeks
 

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Im one of these guys, who like EQ.. :D
so my thing was to run EQ and Test higher, instead of tren, deca etc..
wanna keep it simple. about the dosages, Test 750 with 1g EQ should be fine, i dont see a problem if i donate blood, my bp also gonna be good than 600/800mg + tren :D
so its really difficult choice for me..
wanna go high with the EQ for sure, but how to make the proporcion..
maybe mix deca and tren im small dosages, for example:

750mg test e
600/800mg eq
200mg tren e
200mg deca
about the sdrol, maybe gonna swap for Dbol/Adrol, but what u think about that combination?
 

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Im one of these guys, who like EQ.. :D
so my thing was to run EQ and Test higher, instead of tren, deca etc..
wanna keep it simple. about the dosages, Test 750 with 1g EQ should be fine, i dont see a problem if i donate blood, my bp also gonna be good than 600/800mg + tren :D
so its really difficult choice for me..
wanna go high with the EQ for sure, but how to make the proporcion..
maybe mix deca and tren im small dosages, for example:

750mg test e
600/800mg eq
200mg tren e
200mg deca
about the sdrol, maybe gonna swap for Dbol/Adrol, but what u think about that combination?
That dbol/adrol combo is nice..used sparingly ofcourse...that's alot of gear,I don't know your history but you have put alot of thought in this,which says something..
Run a log..
 

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That dbol/adrol combo is nice..used sparingly ofcourse...that's alot of gear,I don't know your history but you have put alot of thought in this,which says something..
Run a log..
Actually i was thinking to run test 250/500 with tren 600, but too much mental sides and no appetite.. thats why i thinked about eq, it doesnt seem alot to me, bcs eq normally must be run 800/1g for the most bennefits, also alot people run 1,2g+ :D
i put 750 test bcs of the eq effects on e2, otherwise ill stick to 500, but like i said, i wanna run eq high, just like the aesthetic and endurance effects.
so 750 test
800eq isnt that much gear i think?
200 deca 200 tren instead of 400 deca or 400 tren, just because of the deca health properties and the tren hardeness and bigger muscles, i just wanna find the balance between the compounds, the pills are just for kickstart aswell

maybe my final cycle idea gonna be like this:
-2-14 EQ 800mg (-2 means 2 weeks early)
0-16 Test E 750mg
0-10 Deca 400mg
1-4 Dbol 30/40mg/day

Red Yeast Wise for bp
Liver support, including milk thistle + others
subs inside
Aromasin
B6
B Complex
Omega 3
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What you think?
 

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Is your eq 400mg/ml??
Really I like that one better than the 200tren/200deca..
I'd push the deca 12 weeks
 

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Honestly, can do more with less gear..
Dbol before Deca is kicking is a waste to me..Deca and Dbol is pb&j..
At what dose of Test do you require an AI..??
Which compounds in this proposed cycle have you not ran before..if more than one..
That's a problem..
Just trying to see where you're at..
Z...
 

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Ah right.. so on the 1st question, my eq is 200/ml.
2. On 500mg test i dont really get any symptoms, maybe the last few weeks start itching, but at 750 aromasin every2d
I have ran everything before, have a couple cycles, almost have ran everything without mast and primo, eq was the last time just once and i liked it. thats why i wanna go high on it.
 

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Ah right.. so on the 1st question, my eq is 200/ml.
2. On 500mg test i dont really get any symptoms, maybe the last few weeks start itching, but at 750 aromasin every2d
I have ran everything before, have a couple cycles, almost have ran everything without mast and primo, eq was the last time just once and i liked it. thats why i wanna go high on it.
Seriously run a log.i like it and plenty of fellas would too...
So the slin...you have experience?and gh?
 

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Question...
Have you pulled bloods to see where your Estrogen is at 500..and 750..??
Z...
 

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Seriously run a log.i like it and plenty of fellas would too...
So the slin...you have experience?and gh?
I will for sure! Still have 1 month until i start, getting ready when i got everything on hand, including supplements vitargo creatine bcaa’s etc.. mostly bcs for the insulin.
Yes i have exp, i havent run that much slin and gh, i took just 4iu gh ed for 2 months and slin for 8 weeks with 4 weeks pause between the slin, max upped to 7ius.
now i thinked about gh 5iu 5on 2 off for 4/5 months, insu 5iu morning and 8-9 iu post-wo.
igf-3 gonna be 1st time, never used before.
also i thinked bout another option, change the gh EOD and take dosage like 8-9ius, i read on the forums its better for muscle gains, but rly not sure, dont have that much exp with it :D
 

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Question...
Have you pulled bloods to see where your Estrogen is at 500..and 750..??
Z...
nah.. i really dont had that need, i know its better to, but i rly dont know why i still didnt. checked that. always when i feel gyno symptoms i just start with lower dose anti e2 and if needed i bump till i feel good, thats when i know if its too little or too much, but yea better i must do.
 

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Hello everybody!
I had put one thread before about a cycle, but im gonna change, bcs of own care etc.

I want your experiences, have u did the same/similar cycles, dosages, gains…
mostly what im interested in is the EQ..
tryed once in 600mg/w, i felt great, enjoyed the vascularity and pumps, gonna donate blood during cycle.
First thinked to run tren with it, but ill drop it, i like it, but my appetite surpress and mess alot with my head.
Its gonna be a BULK cycle.
So the cycle gonna look like this:

Superdrol 1-4 20mg/day
Test E 1-14 750mg/w
EQ 1-14 1g/w

HGH 5iu/day 5on/2off
Insulin 5iu morning/5 iu post-wo
Igf1 LR-3 50mcg/ed

accept all opinions, any changes to the cycle are welcome, what u think bout adding mast 400mg into this cycle? will this gonna be too much? never did mast.

Im opened for opinions! 😁

edit: dont waste ur time writing bout liver toxity and sdrol, i know.

edit2: is this proportion test/eq good to the eq anti estro effects or should i up test to 1g?
I would continue the hgh everyday. No 2 off. You want to maintain steady levels daily. Hgh is the long game. Chess not checkers 😜
 

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Sdrol is hard to tolerate everyday..and at 20mgs..
I use only 10mgs and only for pre-WO..
EQ for many reduces Estrogen, it could possibly crash you..
If it's bulk your after, many combine Deca or NPP with EQ..
Then you could lower the EQ..

Not sure of your experience..those are big numbers..which equal big sides..
Test..600
EQ..400
Deca..400
Would be more effective and less sides..
Just a thought..
Z...
Great advice brother 😎
 

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nah.. i really dont had that need, i know its better to, but i rly dont know why i still didnt. checked that. always when i feel gyno symptoms i just start with lower dose anti e2 and if needed i bump till i feel good, thats when i know if its too little or too much, but yea better i must do.

Not to be critical..
Bloodwork is the Only Way to know for sure..
Symptoms are not the way to dial in AI's..
Too low or too high Estrogen and the cycle is a wash.

If bulk is what you're after..
Test,Deca,Dbol and low HGH.
Will get you there..
Maybe not what you want to hear ...
Z...
 

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Im one of these guys, who like EQ.. :D
so my thing was to run EQ and Test higher, instead of tren, deca etc..
wanna keep it simple. about the dosages, Test 750 with 1g EQ should be fine, i dont see a problem if i donate blood, my bp also gonna be good than 600/800mg + tren :D
so its really difficult choice for me..
wanna go high with the EQ for sure, but how to make the proporcion..
maybe mix deca and tren im small dosages, for example:

750mg test e
600/800mg eq
200mg tren e
200mg deca
about the sdrol, maybe gonna swap for Dbol/Adrol, but what u think about that combination?
Test, Tren EQ + Tbol or Anavar probably my favorite cycle. Talk about vascularity and sick pumps. Preferably on a cut or recomp, but I guess a bulk would work too. Would add a nandrolone for a bulk maybe drol or Dbol or both instead of the Tbol + Anavar. That’s just me. I use Bold Cyp to cut on the wait.
 

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thanks for the answers, gonna go 4iu ed instead of 5on/2off,
and yes.. i dont wanna hear that hahaha
anyway, i know the test deca dbol combo is gain killer, but i dont wanna be that bloated, the summer is coming, + this dbol makes my nipples sh’t.. estro raises alot.
about the blood tests, ill make on-cycle and check whats there.
so the last and most important thing-
compounds and dosages..
Maybe the best gonna be:

1-4 S-drol 5mg morning, 5mg pre-wo (i have alot appetite on it and tolerate it good, dont have that much lethargy as much as i eat alot carbs)
Test E 1-14 750mg
EQ -2-14 600mg
Deca 1-10 400mg (not 12 bcs last 4 weeks i put oral to dry me)
10-14 Anavar or Winstrol.

hgh 4iu ed 5 months, slin 5iu morning, 8 iu post-wo
igf-3 50mcg ed before workout.

Maybe we made it what u think? :D
 

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thanks for the answers, gonna go 4iu ed instead of 5on/2off,
and yes.. i dont wanna hear that hahaha
anyway, i know the test deca dbol combo is gain killer, but i dont wanna be that bloated, the summer is coming, + this dbol makes my nipples sh’t.. estro raises alot.
about the blood tests, ill make on-cycle and check whats there.
so the last and most important thing-
compounds and dosages..
Maybe the best gonna be:

1-4 S-drol 5mg morning, 5mg pre-wo (i have alot appetite on it and tolerate it good, dont have that much lethargy as much as i eat alot carbs)
Test E 1-14 750mg
EQ -2-14 600mg
Deca 1-10 400mg (not 12 bcs last 4 weeks i put oral to dry me)
10-14 Anavar or Winstrol.

hgh 4iu ed 5 months, slin 5iu morning, 8 iu post-wo
igf-3 50mcg ed before workout.

Maybe we made it what u think? :D
I liked the EQ at what you originally had or 800. I run it at least 750 not gotten to a gram yet, only compound I push that far. But can’t go wrong with less gear if the results are there. Good luck.
 

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I like your idea test tren eq, but this tren.. i love it, but i become a emotionless angry mdfcking hater on the life hahaha.. still got time to think about it, we will see, the idea with the oral is good, but i got sdrol on hand already and its good bulker, so easily after i can cut and bulk at the same time bcs of the gh and slin and near the end just throw some var or winstrol?
Test, Tren EQ + Tbol or Anavar probably my favorite cycle. Talk about vascularity and sick pumps. Preferably on a cut or recomp, but I guess a bulk would work too. Would add a nandrolone for a bulk maybe drol or Dbol or both instead of the Tbol + Anavar. That’s just me. I use Bold Cyp to cut on the wai
Test, Tren EQ + Tbol or Anavar probably my favorite cycle. Talk about vascularity and sick pumps. Preferably on a cut or recomp, but I guess a bulk would work too. Would add a nandrolone for a bulk maybe drol or Dbol or both instead of the Tbol + Anavar. That’s just me. I use Bold Cyp to cut on the wait.
 

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I like what you had planned out my only concern was the oral Sdrol I like injectable version plus TNE I feel GREAT and strong asf, but if you can tolerate it well, send it.
 
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