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Shoulder Pain since droped mit Test

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since I've been on 100mg/week with my testosterone, my left shoulder pain has started, I can't even bench press 225lb / 100kg without suffering. The interesting thing is when I cruise on 180mg or start a cycle 250mg+ this pain disappears completely. Has anyone experienced this, what does testosterone have to do with joint pain?
 
since I've been on 100mg/week with my testosterone, my left shoulder pain has started, I can't even bench press 225lb / 100kg without suffering. The interesting thing is when I cruise on 180mg or start a cycle 250mg+ this pain disappears completely. Has anyone experienced this, what does testosterone have to do with joint pain?
Have you had any lab work done on 100mg a wk to see your Estradiol and test level?
 
Have you had any lab work done on 100mg a wk to see your Estradiol and test level?
I did this morning because I want to start my new cycle, my e2 was high on 180mg Test / week, my E2 was there around 90-100 pg/ml. But I felt fine, no sides, no pain.
 
Joint pain in the majority of cases is due to form issues. Nobody wants to admit it, but it's true. Look there first, the move on to split, volume, hormones, etc.
I'm 100% with you, I had this issue multiple time, and did a proper form check with my coach and other gym buddies with several years of experience. I felt a different, but since I dropped my Test to 100mg/week the pain came back although i pay attention to the form and have even made videos to check against.....mostly it is the form yes. But not in my case now (not anymore)
 
I did this morning because I want to start my new cycle, my e2 was high on 180mg Test / week, my E2 was there around 90-100 pg/ml. But I felt fine, no sides, no pain.
Ok. I guess I'm not understanding why you lowered your test dosage to only 100mg? Was it bc your Estradiol was a bit high? If so then why not just take a low dose of an AI?

What was your testosterone levels on 180mg?
 
Ok. I guess I'm not understanding why you lowered your test dosage to only 100mg? Was it bc your Estradiol was a bit high? If so then why not just take a low dose of an AI?

What was your testosterone levels on 180mg?
sorry for the confusion, my mistake. I normally cruise to 180/190mg/week after a cycle. However, my bloodwork then showed that my total test. was over 1500ng/dl. I wanted to get down to a TRT, so I tried 100mg (out of curiosity) to know how much my total test. and free test. will be. Of course also whether E2 is down. I don't want to use AI's or anything else during TRT. Just want to find the perfect spot. Tomorrow I will get my results to see where I am.

If I want to be on gear as long as I can and as healthy as possible that is necessary for me.
 
sorry for the confusion, my mistake. I normally cruise to 180/190mg/week after a cycle. However, my bloodwork then showed that my total test. was over 1500ng/dl. I wanted to get down to a TRT, so I tried 100mg (out of curiosity) to know how much my total test. and free test. will be. Of course also whether E2 is down. I don't want to use AI's or anything else during TRT. Just want to find the perfect spot. Tomorrow I will get my results to see where I am.

If I want to be on gear as long as I can and as healthy as possible that is necessary for me.
Ah! Makes perfect sense now! No worries sir. I'd definitely be interested to see what your labs look like.

My first thought was low e2 but I'm highly doubting that to be the case bc of you high your Estradiol is at 180mg/ml.

I'm guessing you didn't get an LC/MS test bc u didn't expect the value to be above 1500ng/dl?

I'm reluctant to trust one Estradiol if it's not an ultra sensitive (LC/MS) but damnnnn do those take a long time to get results for.....Then you don't want to use the regular Estradiol if you're using deca, npp, tren etc which you aren't so that's solid 😉
 
Well I finally got my bloodwork back, total test is at 925.8282ng/dl. Free Test = 64.3257ng/dl....e2 = 68.3674 pg/ml.

My E2 was on 104.3215 pg/ml before.
 
You mentioned something very interesting here, there can be a few things that take place that can initiate this, for myself I have experienced this firsthand many times over.

When coming off of a cycle, or a blast, our CNS is no longer primed and hyperactivated. Therefore it's not unusual, or uncommon to experience strength loss, with our primary muscles, and also including stabilizers, secondaries.

This is where we can sometimes have a tendency to overcompensate, with whatever working weight we have that became accustomed with moving.
@Meetketchup brings up a very good point, and it's a phenomenon that we don't even realize that we somehow walked into, or was getting away with, when it concerns compromising our form when ON.

When coming OFF, everything from the CNS, and other adrenal hormones are no longer firing on all cylinders..

Feeling aches and pains is simply your body's way of saying "let's take a look at a checklist"..

1) working weight, taking into accountability and thinking like an adult reasonably and responsibly when looking at what gains we have made, with strength and so on with our lifts. There's going to be a loss, there doesn't have to be a significant one, We can keep these gains but within reason. There will be a loss, except this, and make your adjustments.

2) DE-LOAD... We cannot be firing on all cylinders all the time, you're going to get burned out. It's okay to deload, scale back a little bit, simply focus on the range of motion, focus more on the mechanics and less on what has diminished.

3) What goes up, must come down. We owe it to ourselves not only for our sanity, but for our sense of well-being the physically and mentally, with taking it easy, and simply just recovering.

The majority of individuals, that often say "if I took gear I'd like like that",
They simply have no clue with what truly goes into it, This is truly a game of calculation, consistency, and long-term planning. People look at the picture and only see the glory, yet they have no concept of what goes in between with the ups and downs, food intake, the adding and subtracting with nutrients and other numbers with training, rest and recovery and so on.

Scale back and DELOAD until it's the next go..
 
sorry for the confusion, my mistake. I normally cruise to 180/190mg/week after a cycle. However, my bloodwork then showed that my total test. was over 1500ng/dl. I wanted to get down to a TRT, so I tried 100mg (out of curiosity) to know how much my total test. and free test. will be. Of course also whether E2 is down. I don't want to use AI's or anything else during TRT. Just want to find the perfect spot. Tomorrow I will get my results to see where I am.

If I want to be on gear as long as I can and as healthy as possible that is necessary for me.
Maybe the drop to lower testosterone than your body is used to is causing cortisol to release?
 
Well I finally got my bloodwork back, total test is at 925.8282ng/dl. Free Test = 64.3257ng/dl....e2 = 68.3674 pg/ml.

My E2 was on 104.3215 pg/ml before.
Looks great! I`d most certainly follow the suggestions/thoughts put forth by @Vision and @Meetketchup as I don`t believe this shoulder pain is related to Test, E2, etc
 
Definitely look at training. Exercise selection, form, volume, frequency etc.
 
Thx guys for helping my and giving me that much input, I am very grateful for this. Finally after did multiple bloodworks to know my body better I started today my new cycle. I was now 16 weeks on TRT since I did my last cycle. I will check my form again (it's only the left shoulder) and make a video to check how it looks.

After pinning e3d just 0.2ml of Test for TRT....I pinned today fuc**** 2ml of Gear into both of my glutes...this felt strange.....I felt like a heroin junkie :ROFLMAO:

The funny fact: my bloodwork looked the same (healthy!) as I am on TRT (100mg/week) or I cruised (180mg/week). While I'm cruiing I had over 1500ng/dl of tot. Test and felt amazing...could run this forever.

Now started with Test, Primo and DECA.....4200 calories a day....let's bulk! :sheep:
 

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