Should I stop my trt? Maybe not for me?

[Bigbadwolf04]

32 years old and been blasting and cruising for like 8 year now. Last few years I no longer blast but basically self trt at 150 mgs test cyp a week. Over those years only sides health related I have are high bp and high red blood count. Red blood count is always stays around 52 to 53% and hemocratic around 17 to 18. even with donating. My blood pressure is controlled now but I am prescribed Lisinopril and metoprolol. Was running around years with high bp and no meds.

Now 32 and starting a family my health is my number one priority. Been having episodes of svt. Have had it since I was 12 but feel like they are more frequent now so going to see a cardiologist and get and echo done. I feel like I am anxious and stressed 24/7 that I'm gonna drop dead of a heart attack or just not wake up one night. I know stress and anxiety can also play a big role on my bp and svt episodes. I guess I just never stressed about it when I was younger but now about to have a kid I want to make sure I'm going to be there. I am getting blood work done from a clinic for a script of trt. But do you guys think I did too much damage.

Should I just drop the test completely. I have not told my doc about my trt. Kind of waiting until I get a script to tell tell her. I tried coming off once and felt miserable before. Overall when I don't stress I feel great though. Just the thought of having a heart attack and me killing myself scares the hell out of me.

Just looking for some advice or healthier ways I can go about this. Thanks!

 

[Riles]

After 8 years of blast and cruise, then self TRT, I would imagine that you would be married to TRT for the rest of your life, you might try an extended PCT, and see what happens but it sounds like a long rough road to me, good luck, whatever you choose

 

[Bigbadwolf04]

After 8 years of blast and cruise, then self TRT, I would imagine that you would be married to TRT for the rest of your life, you might try an extended PCT, and see what happens but it sounds like a long rough road to me, good luck, whatever you choose

Yea I mean I'd much rather stay on trt. Just want to make sure everything is in order health wise

 

[badgerz94]

Besides the Echo, you should have a nuclear stress test done. I'm guessing your cardiologist will suggest that. Running/walking on a treadmill wearing only shorts and surrounded by 6 nurses/PAs is not the most comfortable experience but it can tell them things the Echo cant.

I used to use Metoprolol and hated it. I got switched to Losartan and it is working much better, I am running about 120/70ish now. I was 150-160/100-110 before the meds. I have been doing my own version of TRT of 180-210mg for the past 2 years and my recent Echo actually showed improvement according to my doctor.

Stress is the real deal. That can kill you more easily than TRT. I do Yoga when I am stressed. It may sound dumb but it works. It calms me. Dont be afraid to talk to a professional about your anxiety and stress. When my brother unexpectedly died, I went off the deep end. I did one on one and group therapy. I went in thinking it was a joke but it worked. It isnt for everyone but being in a group of strangers with the same issues who arent judging you can be very helpful.

 

[Sponx]

Honestly, I was blasting and cruising for a few years and then ended up just really focusing on TRT when I hit 30.
Fast-forward to 32 and I was having anxiety attacks constantly thinking every little thing was going to cause me to drop dead suddenly.
I mean, seriously, major OCD from any little pain or feeling I had in my chest - it was exhausting and I felt like a dramatic hypochondriac.

For myself personally, I had everything checked out I could - stress test, EKG, echo, artery ultrasounds, etc...
I was very healthy, bloodwork always looked good, in good shape, etc...

Personally, I don't think it's your TRT protocol (maybe another supplement you're taking? HCG also has been known to raise anxiety).
I would try to ensure your stress is under control, you're getting a good nights rest, and worst case - have your doctor perform more assessments of you if you feel it may be linked to a larger issue at hand.

For me, Losartan has been amazing as far as helping with my bloodpressure, too. I also am on Amlodipine (5mg a day).

 

[Milford King]

Yeah…

This doesn’t sound trt related honestly.

Get everything checked out. Lower your trt dose to 100mg/week and see if that helps. Take ashes hands and magnesium supplements and see if that chills you out a bit. Try blasting cold water until your shivering for about 2 minutes after your showers.

High blood pressure at 30 years old …. Hmm.. could be genetics? Could be damage from prolonged AAS use… could be the clot shot… could be anything.

 

[Bigbadwolf04]

Yeah…

This doesn’t sound trt related honestly.

Get everything checked out. Lower your trt dose to 100mg/week and see if that helps. Take ashes hands and magnesium supplements and see if that chills you out a bit. Try blasting cold water until your shivering for about 2 minutes after your showers.

High blood pressure at 30 years old …. Hmm.. could be genetics? Could be damage from prolonged AAS use… could be the clot shot… could be anything.

Thanks man. Yea family has hx of high BP amyways and I'm sure stress isn't helping. And ded not the clot shot haha I dodged the hell out of that thing

 

[Bigbadwolf04]

Honestly, I was blasting and cruising for a few years and then ended up just really focusing on TRT when I hit 30.
Fast-forward to 32 and I was having anxiety attacks constantly thinking every little thing was going to cause me to drop dead suddenly.
I mean, seriously, major OCD from any little pain or feeling I had in my chest - it was exhausting and I felt like a dramatic hypochondriac.

For myself personally, I had everything checked out I could - stress test, EKG, echo, artery ultrasounds, etc...
I was very healthy, bloodwork always looked good, in good shape, etc...

Personally, I don't think it's your TRT protocol (maybe another supplement you're taking? HCG also has been known to raise anxiety).
I would try to ensure your stress is under control, you're getting a good nights rest, and worst case - have your doctor perform more assessments of you if you feel it may be linked to a larger issue at hand.

For me, Losartan has been amazing as far as helping with my bloodpressure, too. I also am on Amlodipine (5mg a day).

Thanks man. Yea that's exactly how it's been for me. Turned 32 and worry over every little pain. I'm a firefighter as well and see a lot of people dead or dying at young ages so it just puts it into reality how short life can be.

 

[Fresh2Death]

Maybe just dial in a moderate dose trt?

 

[Bigbadwolf04]

Maybe just dial in a moderate dose trt?

Yea that's what I thought 150 mg was going to do haha. When I was younger used to run 250 for cruise

 

[Milford King]

Thanks man. Yea family has hx of high BP amyways and I'm sure stress isn't helping. And ded not the clot shot haha I dodged the hell out of that thing

When I typed in ashes hands…. I meant to type in ashwagandha. Auto correct is stupid sometimes…. Anyways, I’ve just started taking ashwagandha gummies and have noticed a little relief from stress related anxiety. I’m the kind of guy that paces back and forth through the house thinking about all the shit I gotta get done and when the weather isn’t cooperating I get all antsy … borderline maniacal lol. But it seems to take the edge off.

 

[Cf8188]

From what you describe I think you need to talk to your doc about your anxiety. Get all the checks done that you are planning, but also talk about your anxiety. Wellbutrin might be a huge help to you

 

[BodybuilderZepp]

I’d personally recommend coming off completely to get your wife pregnant. There is a strong protocol I took to get my wife pregnant and it involves coming off gear completely. Obviously you can get the wife pregnant on quick, many have, but I think coming off increases your chances.

When you do come off and PCT. Get bloodwork, that will be the true answer if you need TRT for life.

 

[Bigbadwolf04]

I’d personally recommend coming off completely to get your wife pregnant. There is a strong protocol I took to get my wife pregnant and it involves coming off gear completely. Obviously you can get the wife pregnant on quick, many have, but I think coming off increases your chances.

When you do come off and PCT. Get bloodwork, that will be the true answer if you need TRT for life.

Thanks man. Yea had no problem still on getting her pregnant. Baby due in June

 

[Wiseguy]

Were you on legit TRT or just did it your self. Some guys get on 100 to 200 mg of test per week and call it TRT. TRT means you did blood work and your test levels were below 250 and your doctor prescribed it to you. Based on your age and years of steroids use it doesn't sound like TRT. You were just cycling small doses with an occasional blast. Now with that said, if you want to stop go ahead and in three to four weeks get a blood test done. If your test range is above 250 which is bare minimum you will survive but won't feel that great. If your test comes back around 400 to 500 you should be fine. Anything below 250 you need to get on legit TRT.

 

[Bigbadwolf04]

Were you on legit TRT or just did it your self. Some guys get on 100 to 200 mg of test per week and call it TRT. TRT means you did blood work and your test levels were below 250 and your doctor prescribed it to you. Based on your age and years of steroids use it doesn't sound like TRT. You were just cycling small doses with an occasional blast. Now with that said, if you want to stop go ahead and in three to four weeks get a blood test done. If your test range is above 250 which is bare minimum you will survive but won't feel that great. If your test comes back around 400 to 500 you should be fine. Anything below 250 you need to get on legit TRT.

No like I said self trt. Blood work shows my t levels around 1000 on 150 mgs. Working with a clinic now to get a script.

 

[Wiseguy]

No like I said self trt. Blood work shows my t levels around 1000 on 150 mgs. Working with a clinic now to get a script.

Why do you want to go on TRT if your levels are normal? I've been on TRT for decades and believe me the pinning gets old. Like I said, if your test level without gear come back normal you should not get on TRT.

 

[Cf8188]

Why do you want to go on TRT if your levels are normal? I've been on TRT for decades and believe me the pinning gets old. Like I said, if your test level without gear come back normal you should not get on TRT.

He's been blast and cruise for years. It's extremely unlikely that he'd have anywhere normal levels now. Seems like he's going through the process of getting an official script now

 

[BlackBear]

I would get legit trt from a doctor and maybe something for your anxiety. Stop stressing so much.

 

[Matt88]

The issue is I doubt a clinic will give you a script unless you come off your self trt, crash your levels then get blood work that shows you're low.

I mean there is probably a clinic out there that will write a script without seeing bloodwork first that demonstrates low Testosterone 🤷‍♂️

 

[Dogs_of_War]

Damn, you’ve been cruising since 24. Why if you don’t mind me asking. Your situation definitely requires a Dr input. I read on her all the time with guys having trouble with their primary and trt. I get everything done through my primary, and insurance covers everything where it doesn’t cover shit from the male clinic. Just tell your Doctor.

 

[Timmy9000]

There a many excellent responses here, but I’d agree most with looping in your physician. Just layout what you have done so they can factor that into your care.

 

[wesley_swolle]

There a many excellent responses here, but I’d agree most with looping in your physician. Just layout what you have done so they can factor that into your care.

The downside to this is that your aas use will follow you and your medical file from doctor to doctor. I recently moved to a new state and my new pcp requested my medical file from my old doctor. I never admitted to aas use, but if I had, my new doctor would now have that information and theoretically, so would my new insurance provider. To be clear, I'm not sure whether or not doctors are prohibited by law from giving personal information to insurance companies, but it's not something I'm willing to risk. That's just me though

 

[Dogs_of_War]

The downside to this is that your aas use will follow you and your medical file from doctor to doctor. I recently moved to a new state and my new pcp requested my medical file from my old doctor. I never admitted to aas use, but if I had, my new doctor would now have that information and theoretically, so would my new insurance provider. To be clear, I'm not sure whether or not doctors are prohibited by law from giving personal information to insurance companies, but it's not something I'm willing to risk. That's just me though

This is covered by hippa only necessary medical personnel can have access.

 

[Timmy9000]

The downside to this is that your aas use will follow you and your medical file from doctor to doctor. I recently moved to a new state and my new pcp requested my medical file from my old doctor. I never admitted to aas use, but if I had, my new doctor would now have that information and theoretically, so would my new insurance provider. To be clear, I'm not sure whether or not doctors are prohibited by law from giving personal information to insurance companies, but it's not something I'm willing to risk. That's just me though

Yea….you have a valid point. My concerns would be more about being misdiagnosed with heart problems vs having a known history of AAS.