Should i start my next cycle?

[555gymrat]

I haven't used pro. what are the benefits?

It enhances everything else your taking, it compliments everything. It also will make your muscles harder and look fuller. Thats my experience, also made me horny as shit. I didnt really think it was doing anything so i stopped taking it, within 2 to 3 days i noticed what it was doing

 

[555gymrat]

Still waiting on my bloods, i doubt what it says will detour me, its more of a baseline. Ive decided to tweak some things and need opinions.
New cycle will be 16 weeks, test/400 primo/500 proviron/50
I might boost the primo to 600, but i want to add Tren E into the mix. Ill only run it 100-200mg per week. When should i add it and for how long?
first 8-10 weeks? Last 8-10? Right in the middle? What you guys think?

 

[zionoir626]

Primo and Tren seems like a waste of Primo to Me..
Plus,both Primo and Proviron have AI qualities..
Be careful not to crash your Estrogen..
Z...

 

[555gymrat]

Primo and Tren seems like a waste of Primo to Me..
Plus,both Primo and Proviron have AI qualities..
Be careful not to crash your Estrogen..
Z...

I definitely try to lean toward easier compounds and slow gains keepable muscle. But shit this last diet i ran i lost alot if weight, wanted to add some quick muscle….probably better not to panic and slow and steady

 

[zionoir626]

Tren only complicates things ..
Mild compounds = less sides..
Yes,slower gains..but Healthier Too..
Z...

 

[rdm]

I definitely try to lean toward easier compounds and slow gains keepable muscle. But shit this last diet i ran i lost alot if weight, wanted to add some quick muscle….probably better not to panic and slow and steady

No such thing as quick muscle brother. Only things that come quick are water (bloat) and fat.

 

[burittomann]

Waiting is never a bad idea 🤷‍♂️… but who wants to wait

 

[Draig]

I have never done a PCT, always been on trt so take with a grain of salt.

I would get blood work done, see where your levels are today.

If I was trying to regain my natural test between cycles I would probably stick to 1 blast a year depending on how I recovered etc.



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[555gymrat]

this is difficult.
Test / primo is going no matter what.
Should i do proviron 10 weeks @ 50mg
Finish with anavar 6 weeks @ 50mg.
Or run the proviron the whole time and still add anavar at the end?

 

[555gymrat]

I think the main problem im having is, i want to run test and primo and im not sure what to stack with it. Also, i have a nice stash of gear and want to use it 😂

 

[Jbswole40]

i would run the proviron all the way thru,,but like z said primo and proviron may have your e2 low

 

[555gymrat]

i would run the proviron all the way thru,,but like z said primo and proviron may have your e2 low

Im gonna get a blood test around the half way mark, anything i could add to keep the e2 where it should be? Higher test?

 

[Jbswole40]

yea so i saw your cycle plan 400 test 400 primo proviron 50 ,i did blood work late january on that but i also had little deca in there too anyways my e2 was 23,which is low for me during a bulk.
you need a greater e2# for good gains,but also every1 responds different,anyways i upped my test dose

 

[CompoundLifts31]

I have never done a PCT, always been on trt so take with a grain of salt.

I would get blood work done, see where your levels are today.

If I was trying to regain my natural test between cycles I would probably stick to 1 blast a year depending on how I recovered etc.



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I read "one year blast" the first time and I was like, "ffffaaaaawwwwkkkk"

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[555gymrat]

Got my results and WTF man.
Test = 265
Free = 25.4
So im starting now i guess…..this is the first time i got test bloods, im pretty sure i killed my system when i was young

 

[555gymrat]

The question is,
Is this my natural state from all the bullshit I did when i was young?
Or
Am i still trying to recover from a cycle i did over 4 months ago

 

[Jbswole40]

Got my results and WTF man.
Test = 265
Free = 25.4
So im starting now i guess…..this is the first time i got test bloods, im pretty sure i killed my system when i was young

Bro how r u functioning 😂..not funny..I kno.
Think it safe to say you can hop on your cycle..

 

[Jbswole40]

The question is,
Is this my natural state from all the bullshit I did when i was young?
Or
Am i still trying to recover from a cycle i did over 4 months ago

Most likely both..but I don't know your age or what u did when younger, 1 can only speculate

 

[littlegainsinmass]

Got my results and WTF man.
Test = 265
Free = 25.4
So im starting now i guess…..this is the first time i got test bloods, im pretty sure i killed my system when i was young

just rip it. free isn't bad, the total is on the low end. but how old are you? I cannot comment on what to do about the pro or var to your cycle as I've only done var. if I'm looking to ad muscle I use deca and primo. if I'm looking to trim up I will use primo and var. that's what I do, I've just had great results with primo used solo with test or 3 or 4 compounds. I'm trying to bulk now so I'm using deca primo tbol and Sus. as I said before. I didn't get result with primo til I was pinning 400mg every 5 days. I currently doing 300mg every 4 days some times I may add a little extra. let us know how it goes

 

[CompoundLifts31]

The question is,
Is this my natural state from all the bullshit I did when i was young?
Or
Am i still trying to recover from a cycle i did over 4 months ago

To answer that question we need more answers...

Did you PCT after your cycle ended 4 months ago?

What did you do when you were younger and at what ages did you do these things?

My first thought is you cycled something 6 months ago and stopped 4 months ago, but never took anything to get test levels back up. That's my first guess at least.

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[555gymrat]

Im 38.
Younger i took all the shit youbcould buy over the counter that eventually got pulled, starting around 16 with androsteine and all that stuff. Superdrol, m1t, all the max muscle supps like vns9, trenX, all that shit. Ran some gear, test400, dianabol, all with no PCT.
Most recently, ran 12 weeks of
Test/375mg
Mast/200mg
Proviron/50mg
All per week mgs
Then 1 month of nolvadex at 20mg a day.
The month if nolva ended December 1st

 

[555gymrat]

Proviron was 50mg per day

 

[Jbswole40]

One thing all the crazy stuff you did back then most prob did a number on you..
My free test is 800 now most prob because of the proviron and primo..
Also I'm not experienced in pct but 4 weeks seems a little short..
My test was 300 a few yrs ago but I was 40 at the time and heavily drinking and using opiates..anyways every1 is different, but I'd say your pretty shut down.

 

[555gymrat]

So i started, im pinning every 3 days to equal
450 test per week
400 primo per week
Plan is 16 weeks, im cuttin out proviron, dont want to crash estrogen, but from weeks 10 to 16 im adding TBOL at 40mg a day
I may up the primo to 500
my next question is, what do you think about adding 20mg of Dbol on training days only, weeks 6-9 ?

 

[zionoir626]

20mgs just for pre-WO should be fine..
If you don't convert easily..
Just keep your eye on it..
Sdrol might be a better fit..
Z...

 

[555gymrat]

20mgs just for pre-WO should be fine..
If you don't convert easily..
Just keep your eye on it..
Sdrol might be a better fit..
Z...

Appreciate the response, Im definitely getting bloods around week 8….i cant take SDrol, it messes with my emotions, makes me all monotone depressed and shit, idk why. Looking for a good pump and that euphoric dbol feeling

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Morning wood?!? Ill get them here and there but man, thats not an every morning thing, maybe im old

This Masteron has my dick raging in the morning. It's fucking nuts, like too much. Think I may have to give it up until I'm with a chick consistently

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[CompoundLifts31]

Does this give total test over 1500ng/dL and does it also give Free Test levels?

I pulled a couple times and it was in the $100 range but wasn't as thorough as this panel is.

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[CompoundLifts31]

One good tip: when you share a lab report here make sure you black out your name/addy and the report ID, Dr. name and location. That way your personal info is protected.

And possibly credit from the source for pulling blood work...

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[555gymrat]

Mine pulled this, i paid $180
I also got a comprehensive check with it, but this is the hormone parts….yeah i know, low as shit