Semaglutide, Ozempic, Wegovy – Miracle Fat-Loss Drugs?

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Do They Work? Are They Safe?​

Elon took semaglutide to get leaner. Kim K. supposedly took it to whittle down that dump truck of a butt. Should you? Info here.

Semaglutide: A Diabetes Drug That Rips Off Body Fat?​

Elon Musk was large. Now he’s not. Kim Kardashian was large, or at least a part of her was. Now she (it) isn’t.

Similarly, socialite brides-to-be are lately slipping into their waifish wedding dresses without breaking so much as a moist upper lip in the gym. Recovering Wall Street Peloton addicts who’d put on an extra 10 or 20 post-Peloton pounds are suddenly getting back to their fighting weights without the whole hamster-on-a-wheel thing. Post-partum baby weight, for many well-to-do mothers, has become a non-existent problem.

And it’s all because of semaglutide, a relatively new diabetes drug that’s been appropriated for the off-label purpose of fat loss by financially secure people, along with some resourceful, less deep-pocketed people who’ve gotten their insurance companies to cover it, even if they don’t have diabetes.

So, what is this stuff, and, more importantly, should regular folk who quickly want to drop a wheelbarrow of fat use it?

Oh-Oh-Oh Ozempic​

Semaglutide is an insulin regulator that was developed by Danish pharmaceutical giant Novo Nordisk in 2012 and was approved for the treatment of Type II diabetes (and heart disease since it lowers the risk of heart attack and stroke) five years later.

If you own a television and you’ve turned it on any time in the last few years, you’ve no doubt had your senses assaulted by a cheery chorus singing “Oh-Oh-Oh Ozempic…”

Yeah, that’s the trade name for semaglutide.

The drug is typically injected subcutaneously once a week and it lowers blood sugar levels by stimulating the release of insulin, which is hugely helpful for people with Type II diabetes. Semaglutide also mimics a hormone called glucagon-like-peptide 1 (GLP-1) that tells our stomachs that we feel full, along with prompting the stomach to slow down the transit of food.

Those things, of course, are a recipe for weight loss, one that rivals bariatric surgery, the procedure where they surgically reduce the size of your stomach to about the size of the pouch your AirPods come in.

When Novo Nordisk saw what was happening to the waistlines of Ozempic users, they felt a big dose of that hygge stuff you hear about, and it apparently filled them with entrepreneurial inspiration. “We’ve got the diabetics’ money, but what if we make semaglutide for fatties too?”

Genius! The only trouble was, semaglutide/Ozempic had only been approved by the FDA for the treatment of Type II diabetes and related or non-related heart problems.

That didn’t mean some completely healthy but chubby people weren’t getting semaglutide for its off-label use by finding doctors with flexible ethics. Regardless, Novo Nordisk decided to make it easier for people who wanted to be svelte by developing an injectable semaglutide specifically designed for weight loss. Enter Wegovy, which the FDA quickly approved.

It’s the same damn drug as Ozembic, only Wegovy is available in higher dosing to facilitate weight loss more efficiently. Each comes in nifty pre-loaded syringes (a 4 mm, 32-gauge needle), but Ozempic is available in 0.25 mg, 0.5 mg, and 1.0 mg pens, while Wegovy is available in 0.25 mg, 0.5, 1.0 mg, 1.7 mg, and 2.4 mg pens.



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Enter an Oral Version, Rybelsus​

Obviously, a lot of people aren’t comfortable jabbing themselves with a needle. It’s too invasive, too medical, too ucky. Enter Rybelsus, an oral form of semaglutide. Unfortunately, it has to be taken in a very specific way: a half hour before eating and with 4 ounces of water.

Unlike Ozempic, it’s only approved for the treatment of Type II diabetes, but there are ways around that for those who want to use it for weight loss (like sweet talking your doc into writing the script anyways).

Novo Nordisk also has at least a fourth variant of semaglutide in the works, but little is known about it. Given that the earliest entry for any generic semaglutides to appear is December 5th, 2031, I half-expect Novo Nordisk to take full advantage and churn out a cascade of different semaglutide products in the meantime – gummies, tinctures, nasal sprays, who knows? Maybe even some semaglutide products for adipose adolescents, tubby tots, or porcine pets.

How Much Weight Loss is Typical?​

Users of any of the semaglutide products typically lose up to 15% of their body mass in just a few weeks, without making any modifications at all to their diet or exercise habits. Whether most of this weight loss is comprised largely of fat with a modicum of muscle loss would of course be dependent on the user’s protein intake and type and intensity of exercise.

Side Effects​

As with any drug, there are some side effects associated with the use of semaglutide:

  • Redness or itching at injection site (Ozempic and Wegovy)
  • Nausea and vomiting
  • Dehydration
  • Diarrhea
  • Stomach pain
  • Constipation
  • Gas
  • Fatigue
  • And of course, weight loss.
These side effects shouldn’t be taken lightly, as just about everybody who uses the drug experiences debilitating nausea for the first two or three days. Most savvy doctors, however, will often prescribe the anti-nausea pill Zofran at the same time.

There are also some more serious possible side effects that can occur with semaglutide:

  • Allergic reaction
  • Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar)
  • Cholelithiasis (gallstones)
  • Kidney problems
  • Thyroid C-cell tumors (in animal studies, at least)
The drug’s only been around a short time, so no one knows what the really long-term effects might be. Still, that’s likely more of a concern with diabetic patients or heart patients who’d presumably stay on the drug for a long time, or for the rest of their lives.

The risks to the dieter who only stays on the drug for a short time would of course be less, or even minimal. Of course, any fat loss that occurred from using any of the forms of semaglutide would come back with a vengeance after cessation of the drug unless appropriate lifestyle modifications were made.



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Financial Side Effects​

The executives at Novo Nordisk have taken to mixing their Kartoffelsalat with caviar and buying their kids solid gold Legos because, justifiably or not, they’re charging an arm and a leg, or given their original demographic, and arm and a pancreas for semaglutide.

A monthly supply of Ozempic, depending on the dosage, is around $900, while the cost for an equal supply of Wegovy is around $1,300. However, if you’re a Type II diabetic, have heart problems, or are clinically obese (have a BMI over 30), you should be able to use insurance to get the cost down to around $25.

There exists kind of a loophole, though, provided you have flexible morals. A lot of people are allegedly getting the drug through video chats with their doctor. The apparent secret is to lie about your body mass index (BMI). If you qualify as obese (a BMI over 30), you’re supposedly in. Whether this lie requires you to shove your cheeks full of cotton balls, a la’ Marlon Brando in “The Godfather” and have the camera aimed solely at your face, I don’t know.

Other Considerations and Alternatives​

I can see semaglutide having an impact on bodybuilders. It may bring back the discredited practice of off-season bulking. Lifters can eat their lungs out during winter, gain an appreciable amount of fat and muscle, and then painlessly Ozempic or Wegovy their way down to a much more muscular body come springtime.

Still, there’s that price thing to contend with. Of course, given that pro bodybuilders often spend as much as 10 grand a month on anabolics, a few more dollars probably wouldn’t be a deterrent.

Those of us with less financial means might just want to go the supplement route. Hot-Rox® Extreme 412 can respectably emulate some of semaglutide’s effects (e.g., appetite suppression) while also stimulating production of thyroid hormone and blocking andrenergic receptors that predominate in “trouble areas” like the abs, love handles, and lower back.
 

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This has piqued my interest as well and looking to get rid of some long standing extra fat...sooo I might be able to snag some samples of Rybelsus from my doc who's an avid lifter as well.
 

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My wife started her 4th week today using @GYMnTONIC semaglutide. She started using .25mg per week and she didn’t seem too phased by it. She upped it to .5mg last week and this week. She is down 4lbs. She is 5’3 and pretty slim but I can see her face slimming. She describes it as only being able to eat Half the regular amount of food at a meal. Then feeling full all day. She is eating 2 small meals daily and is never hungry and she has had zero side affects.
 

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My wife started her 4th week today using @GYMnTONIC semaglutide. She started using .25mg per week and she didn’t seem too phased by it. She upped it to .5mg last week and this week. She is down 4lbs. She is 5’3 and pretty slim but I can see her face slimming. She describes it as only being able to eat Half the regular amount of food at a meal. Then feeling full all day. She is eating 2 small meals daily and is never hungry and she has had zero side affects.
I started it at .125 mgs and have zero appetite.

My buddy and client is on week 3 at .5 mgs e5d and down 22 lbs.

Put it this way. Clinics buy it from me and are charging $1,000 a bottle.

Crazy.

I only buy lab tested. I've sold suppz since 1996 so I have better sources then 90% of anyone. I started working at GNC then but the connections I made since then are exceptionally valuable.
 

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I started it at .125 mgs and have zero appetite.

My buddy and client is on week 3 at .5 mgs e5d and down 22 lbs.

Put it this way. Clinics buy it from me and are charging $1,000 a bottle.

Crazy.

I only buy lab tested. I've sold suppz since 1996 so I have better sources then 90% of anyone. I started working at GNC then but the connections I made since then are exceptionally valuable.
She loves it. And is getting good results. And she doesn’t like to eat healthy and she doesn’t have much to lose. She was taking clen and it messes with her while this has no sides and it’s one shot a week and she barely wants to eat and the weight is coming off with no working out. I’ve been telling her to do cardio and that number would be double but she does her own thing 😂😂
 

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Bought the wife 2 pens back in Jan and she has been on for like 8wks now. Started at .25 for 4 wks then last 4 running .5…she has lost 16lbs. She also likes to eat a whatever diet but now just can’t eat as much junk.

Her only side is nausea. Worse the first few days after shot but then not as bad in days leading to next shot. Zofran is a must for her. However, having it on hand I had to find it available.

I have a few SEMA from GYMnTONIC from his presale and have picked up a few more. She will be running it here within about a wk and I’m gonna run one at some point soon.

Judging by reading and my wife’s experience so far I am a lil concerned about hitting my macros each day.
 

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I haven't updated in a while but that stuff kicks some ass. I'm still hitting my macros and am down from 226.5 to a little over 217 in just about 6 weeks (starting wt. was 245 ish) Slow and steady and not dropping too fast. Still hitting all my cardio which is currently 50 mins a day/5x a week.

For what it's worth using the GymNTonic version, it's legit. Only real issue is not having great bowel movements and when I do have them much smaller than normal.
 

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I’m interested to see where this will go in society since it is now booming in popularity and media and has become so easily accessible. Wonder how this will breed a new wave of eating disorders. I think it’s a great product but I am interested to see where it’ll be in 5-10 years time.
 

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I’m interested to see where this will go in society since it is now booming in popularity and media and has become so easily accessible. Wonder how this will breed a new wave of eating disorders. I think it’s a great product but I am interested to see where it’ll be in 5-10 years time.

They even have these shops opening up with oral semaglutide & Bpc-157 . Novo Nordisk went nuts trying to stop it and they still are .

Too bad big Pharma , we can get generics of most meds now. Idk why gh isn’t available for compounding yet ….the Ferring Zomacton is their cheapest one . Soon I’m sure it will be , hopefully once it is , insurance will cover it for adult growth hormone deficiency (AGHD) .


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I haven't updated in a while but that stuff kicks some ass. I'm still hitting my macros and am down from 226.5 to a little over 217 in just about 6 weeks (starting wt. was 245 ish) Slow and steady and not dropping too fast. Still hitting all my cardio which is currently 50 mins a day/5x a week.

For what it's worth using the GymNTonic version, it's legit. Only real issue is not having great bowel movements and when I do have them much smaller than normal.
Constipation is the second biggest side. Where nausea is the #1.

I woke up w nausea today and not hungry at all.

I've never used this before u til now however we kinda beat most people to the gun.. a friend and client of mine who is a physician got my gf samples of Ozempic in 2020?

Before anyone knew about it. So we lucked out in having experience and knowledge of this before almost anyone.

This compound has taken off like none other.. it's the most popular fat loss agent on the market.

It may be as popular or more so then Phen Phen was.
 
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Constipation is the second biggest side. Where nausea is the #1.

I woke up w nausea today and not hungry at all.

I've never used this before u til now however we kinda beat most people to the gun.. a friend and client of mine who is a physician got my gf samples of Ozempic in 2020?

Before anyone knew about it. So we lucked out in having experience and knowledge of this before almost anyone.

This compound has taken off like none other.. it's the most popular fat loss agent on the market.

It may be as popular or more so then Phen Phen was.
My wife gets nauseous about 4 hours after she takes it, but no other sides. She is down 1 more pound today. That’s 5 pounds and it’s day 2 of week 4. That’s impressive for not dieting
 
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