Salt and MSG: Forget Everything You Think You Know


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May 13, 2016
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The Real Sodium Story​

The flavor enhancer MSG is not only safe, but it reduces sodium intake by replacing table salt. It also increases nutrient absorption.

Let me preface the following spiel by saying that I have serious misgivings about the alleged link 25 between sodium intake and high blood pressure. All you’ve got to do is look at the whole fakakta history of America’s war on salt to understand why.

Consider that in 1904, a group of French doctors, no doubt while resting between mock swordfights with baguettes, noticed that six of their high blood-pressure patients happened to also be salt junkies.

“Mon Dieu! No wonder their blood pressure goes up like our mistresses’ bouffants! They like to put zee salt on zee bouef bourguignon!”
That’s right, they committed the scientific sin of conflating correlation with causality. Say you looked at ten people who had bludgeoned their victims to death using a butternut squash. Then, while studying their habits or lifestyle for any clues, you noticed that they’d all seen at least one Kevin Bacon movie in the preceding week. You then shouted, “Eureka!” and proclaimed that watching Kevin Bacon movies causes people to commit violent crimes using a butternut squash.

That’s pretty much what the French researchers did, and it planted the “salt is bad” seed.

A few decades later, the salt phobia escalated when Brookhaven National Laboratory’s Lewis Dahl released “unequivocal” evidence that excess salt causes hypertension. He came to this conclusion after inducing high blood pressure in rats by giving them the human equivalent of ingesting 500 grams of sodium a day.

Let’s put that in perspective. Today, the average American ingests about 3.4 grams of sodium a day. In order to match what Dahl’s rats were given, that average American would have to eat 2,380 of those one-ounce bags of Doritos you see at the checkout counter. Every day. And that’s not even counting the sodium in the salsa you’d dip the chips in.

Since then, more sensible studies have shown mixed results about the role salt/sodium plays in hypertension. Some studies say the link is conclusive, while others say the link, if it exists, is negligible. But let’s give the anti-salt people the benefit of the doubt for now and accept that Americans should restrict their sodium intake.

It’s with that in mind that I offer the much-reviled MSG (monosodium glutamate) as a viable and even healthful salt substitute.

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MSG, Ain’t that the Stuff in Chinese Food?​

I know what you’re thinking. MSG? Yeah, that’s the “toxin” that causes “Chinese Restaurant Syndrome.” Too bad there’s no such thing. That damning label has its origin in a letter that was published the prestigious New England Journal of Medicine in 1968.

In that letter, a Dr. Robert Ho Man Kwok described how he got sick after eating at a Chinese restaurant. He complained of generalized weakness, palpitations, and numbness in his extremities, all of which he blamed on MSG.

Similar letters filled the Journal’s mailbox, but with additional complaints that included dizziness and chest and back pains.

Too bad the original letter was a hoax written by someone who used a pseudonym, no doubt some guy who owned a little-visited falafel shop in China Town and was tired of people bypassing his shop to eat Egg Foo Yung.

Soon after that charade, a study came out that “supported” the idea that MSG was dangerous. This study involved giving MSG to rodents (newborn mice). It resulted in stunted growth, obesity, and nerve damage to several areas of their developing brains. Okay, but I’m thinking the study was done by a descendant of Lewis Dahl – he of the 2,380 bags of Doritos fame – because it also involved unrealistic doses.

What’s more, these large doses weren’t fed to the mice. Instead, they were injected into their abdomens. I’m guessing that injecting substances into abdominal cavities isn’t the best way to test the safety of a substance. Hell, I bet that if you injected Kombucha tea, mother’s milk, or even whatever the elves drink in LOTR, into some creature’s midsection, it would likely cause all kinds of hurt.

Anyhow, since then, multiple studies have overwhelmingly vindicated the use of MSG. It’s now used extensively in South Asian cuisine for the flavor it provides, but it’s also been adopted in other places around the world because of its flavor-enhancing, sodium-sparing properties. High concentrations are known to be harmless, and the body eliminates the substance in just a few hours.

No Recorded Case of Chinese Boob Syndrome​

MSG is a sodium salt of the amino acid glutamic acid, the most abundant amino acid in nature. It’s found naturally in meat, fish, poultry, hard cheeses, and mushrooms. It’s even in breast milk, and, to the best of my knowledge, there are no recorded cases of Chinese Boob Syndrome.

The chemical was first isolated in the early 1900s by Kikunae Ikeda, a Japanese chemist. He noted the flavor was distinct from the four basic tastes: sweet, sour, salty, and bitter. He named the flavor umami (Japanese for savory).

Ikeda figured out how to isolate glutamate from seaweed and stabilize it with salt, a process for which he gained a patent in 1908. He started selling the product under the name of Ajinomoto, a company that still exists today (although it now uses a different extraction method that uses beets, sugar cane, or molasses).

Oddly enough, MSG doesn’t add flavor to food. Instead, it changes the way our taste buds perceive flavors by adding the fifth flavor – umami. Why exactly it deserves “flavor status” has to do with the fact that there are receptors on the tongue that are awoken by MSG, some of which are exclusively aroused by glutamate.

So, when you add MSG to food, it enhances your ability to taste and enjoy the flavors related to meat and saltiness and, most pertinent to this article, it allows you to do this while only containing about a third of the sodium of table salt.


The “Salt Flip” Experiment​

While I expressed my doubts about the supposedly iron-clad relationship between sodium and high blood pressure, excess sodium is universally recognized as being involved in other negative health diagnoses, including stomach cancer, osteoporosis, and kidney disease.

Given all that, it may be a good idea to give seasoning your foods with MSG instead of table salt a try. This was exactly the idea behind the “Salt Flip” experiment, the results of which were published in 2020.

The experiment involved feeding 163 consumers three versions of various recipes, some with normal salt, some with reduced salt, and some with MSG. The consumers were then asked to rate the foods on overall liking of appearance, flavor, and texture/mouthfeel using a nine-point hedonic scale, preference, adequacy of flavor, saltiness, aftertaste, likeliness to order, and sensory characteristics.

Consumers liked the MSG versions as well as the salted versions and considerably more than the low-salt version, leading the researchers to conclude the following:

“Flip offers a promising dietary sodium reduction strategy through the addition of monosodium glutamate (MSG) to reduced-salt, savory, better-for-you foods that does not compromise consumer acceptance of their sensory profile.”
So, rather than pouring salt on your food like Zeus pouring rain on the cornlands of the Athenians, you can instead use MSG. You cut down on sodium by virtue of using something that contains less of the chemical than table salt.

You also might find, because of its flavor-enhancing characteristics, that you need to use an amount of MSG that’s less than the amount of table salt you might use, which further cuts down on your sodium intake.

There’s another reason you might want to consider adding MSG 150 to your spice rack. It seems there are also glutamate receptors in the stomach, too, and when they’re activated by glutamate, they stimulate gut motility and improve enzyme secretions. That, theoretically at least, leads to increased nutrient absorption, which is good.


Jun 4, 2022
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Idk about MSG but I can guarantee you that if the people on this forum knew how much sodium I take in on an average day it would blow some minds. My entire family is salt slammers. We even pour table salt or kosher salt in our palms and lick it lol. Everything pretty much gets salted. Double or triple portion. No hypertension or BP issues for myself or anyone else in the family. All healthy and happy. Salt has been good for my health.


Feb 11, 2023
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If you check people in japan eat about 3x more salt then in the US and have far lower cases of heart disease or cancer.