Question about low dose tren sides

[ghazni]

Background: Decades of consistent lifting, last 3 years with PEDs, 5 cycles total. On TRT. 50, 11%bf, 218. Have never tried tren. Diet is very tight, 6 days a week of cardio in AM, lifting in PM.

At this age am not interested in megadosing anything but am curious what 100-150mg tren a week with 200mg test would do for me. 6 weeks probably, bloodwork at week 4.

1. For those that have had sides with tren A, how long after stopping did the sides go away? Are we talking a day or two of misery or longer? My biggest concern is becoming short tempered though am not prone to this and no other AAS have. But something I definitely don't want to be, at home or at work.

2. Tren cough. Have never seen anyone comment on this, does mixing with test in same vial so the tren is more dilute, has this helped anyone avoid the cough? Sounds freaking awful when it happens.

Thanks.

 

[555gymrat]

I can’t speak from experience, i have some tren and im a little afraid to take it because of its reputation. I will say, i recently found out my brother runs 250test, and he throws in 100mg of tren now and then (he definitely doesnt do normal cycles) , but he tells me the only side effect is feeling awesome. His buddy got on it, higher dose, 200-300 weekly, he says the same thing. Im curious to see what others say

 

[Halfi]

Just to clarify I am new to AAS…
Depends on if u run a short ester or long ester… shorter ester leaves the body quicker which in turn would mean the compounds sides would go with it… most of them atleast

But my experience so far with Tren are minimal side effects. Some heart burn and night terrors but nothing crazy… it depends on the person using it is how they will react. I ran it at around 450mg and the physical sides were minimal like I said…

Tren cough only happened to me one time and from what I read about the cough is it’s completely random… I’m sure a veteran on here will comment pretty soon about what ur asking I’m just throwing my experience with it out there. I enjoy Tren my self

 

[Multislacking]

I've microdosed as low as 10-15mg ED. It's awesome and keeps sides away. Any more than 15mg per day and I will start seeing sides...night sweats, insomnia, takes forever to cum, etc. Anger is never an issue for me. Low dose a little mast with that combo and you'll feel epic.

Yeah, I mix in the same pin all the time, as do others. It's fine.

 

[Jbswole40]

I like what @Multislacking said...if I go over 20 a day it gets rough ,lethargy, insomnia etc..me personally respond better to hex at 120ish a week little test and mast 😀 great feeling 👍 👌

 

[JD70]

That would be a great cycle. I'm your age and have done 400mg tren with other drugs in the past and had terrible sides, but found that 150mg works great and without sides, or very little. Noticeable strength, vascularity, and muscle building from just that dose. I ran eq and test with it but the tren was dominant. I bet 100mg would work, it's a hell of a drug.

 

[ghazni]

Appreciate the insights.
Primo has done amazing for me. Feel like I have plateaued and I don't want to keep upping doses on test/primo. Deca bloats me like a toad even at lower doses and estrogen is never an issue. Am a little nervous to try but the positives do sound amazing. Just don't want to feel like shit for a week if it reacts poorly.

 

[ghazni]

I like what @Multislacking said...if I go over 20 a day it gets rough ,lethargy, insomnia etc..me personally respond better to hex at 120ish a week little test and mast 😀 great feeling 👍 👌

Do you notice viable gains at that dose? Not just feeling good?

 

[Jbswole40]

Do you notice viable gains at that dose? Not just feeling good?

Ofcourse..hell of a compound
Less is more,imo,

 

[Halfi]

I like what @Multislacking said...if I go over 20 a day it gets rough ,lethargy, insomnia etc..me personally respond better to hex at 120ish a week little test and mast 😀 great feeling 👍 👌

I hope some day I can pin ED lol EOD gets to be a pain in the ass sometimes for me

 

[Meetketchup]

20-30 per day during prep is nothing short of magic. Anything more is the 7th circle of hell for me.

 

[selfmademonster]

I'm about 9 weeks in on 100-150mg Tren A a week and physically feel great. Solid strength increase and mentally I feel like a monster, only side really is some light heartburn. I'll pop 20mg of Halo on some training days and then it's a whole new level, feel like Mother Theresa and Mike Tyson all at the same time 😁

 

[Cpillar2019]

Background: Decades of consistent lifting, last 3 years with PEDs, 5 cycles total. On TRT. 50, 11%bf, 218. Have never tried tren. Diet is very tight, 6 days a week of cardio in AM, lifting in PM.

At this age am not interested in megadosing anything but am curious what 100-150mg tren a week with 200mg test would do for me. 6 weeks probably, bloodwork at week 4.

1. For those that have had sides with tren A, how long after stopping did the sides go away? Are we talking a day or two of misery or longer? My biggest concern is becoming short tempered though am not prone to this and no other AAS have. But something I definitely don't want to be, at home or at work.

2. Tren cough. Have never seen anyone comment on this, does mixing with test in same vial so the tren is more dilute, has this helped anyone avoid the cough? Sounds freaking awful when it happens.

Thanks.

I plan to incorporate Tren A in the distant future and have the same questions. I plan to stay around 100-150mg/wk with test and mast running alongside as well. Would like to get one more cycle under my belt before that if I can be keep myself patient and not rush things.

 

[AchesNPains]

Ran 400mg Tren E a week yrs ago. Only sides for me were night sweats and insomnia...I will agree of the superhuman feeling that it gives you. Haven't done Tren A so can't answer for that

 

[ghazni]

Debating. Bit scared honestly about the sides but it does sound amazing.

I like hearing the micro doses have benefit. At my age I wouldn't go over 150 a week at the very most. Prob 30 eod is where I'll end up.

Thx for all the input

 

[CompoundLifts31]

I've microdosed as low as 10-15mg ED. It's awesome and keeps sides away. Any more than 15mg per day and I will start seeing sides...night sweats, insomnia, takes forever to cum, etc. Anger is never an issue for me. Low dose a little mast with that combo and you'll feel epic.

Yeah, I mix in the same pin all the time, as do others. It's fine.

What is it about Masteron with tren that makes it better FOR YOU? I've read Masteron helps mitigate tren sides? I've never run mast in my 10 years cycling.

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[Multislacking]

What is it about Masteron with tren that makes it better FOR YOU? I've read Masteron helps mitigate tren sides? I've never run mast in my 10 years cycling.

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It's like the perfect trifecta, imho. Mast is low key amazing. Frees up test to do more, acts like an AI, and the mood boost is awesome. I'm honestly surprised you've never tried it as much experience as you've had. You should definitely give it a go sometime. I wouldn't make mast my main or even secondary compound. But with that combo it works wonders. It does work great as a secondary on trt (but then it's not exactly trt any more, is it?). The only real downside is the hairline. I went from never worrying about it, to wtf happened to all my hair?! Oh...and make sure your girl is prepared. It will make you feel like a kid that just discovered his pecker is for something besides peeing.

 

[Haisensei]

I have a bit of a phobia about not being able to breathe. The other sides don't scare me near as much, the damn cough sounds awful. Think I will try diluting with test and injecting super slow. Have my albuterol inhaler handy and just man up and try it. The benefits sound too good to ignore and at lower doses with bloodwork and shorter cycles that it could be employed relatively safely to great benefit.

Will let you know. Thx

 

[Oldman85]

I’ve used Tren E from 75-100mg/wk before and found it to be lovely. Minimal to no sides with reasonable upside.

 

[555gymrat]

It's like the perfect trifecta, imho. Mast is low key amazing. Frees up test to do more, acts like an AI, and the mood boost is awesome. I'm honestly surprised you've never tried it as much experience as you've had. You should definitely give it a go sometime. I wouldn't make mast my main or even secondary compound. But with that combo it works wonders. It does work great as a secondary on trt (but then it's not exactly trt any more, is it?). The only real downside is the hairline. I went from never worrying about it, to wtf happened to all my hair?! Oh...and make sure your girl is prepared. It will make you feel like a kid that just discovered his pecker is for something besides peeing.

Im balding already, but i hit test / mast @ 400/400 and seen my hairline disappearing 😂, so i switched to 400/200 and added proviron at 50 ed and loved it. But for that reason, i think my next cycle will be test,primo,tren, proviron but still debating

 

[CompoundLifts31]

It's like the perfect trifecta, imho. Mast is low key amazing. Frees up test to do more, acts like an AI, and the mood boost is awesome. I'm honestly surprised you've never tried it as much experience as you've had. You should definitely give it a go sometime. I wouldn't make mast my main or even secondary compound. But with that combo it works wonders. It does work great as a secondary on trt (but then it's not exactly trt any more, is it?). The only real downside is the hairline. I went from never worrying about it, to wtf happened to all my hair?! Oh...and make sure your girl is prepared. It will make you feel like a kid that just discovered his pecker is for something besides peeing.

Im dying right now.

It's weird that with tren it lowers sides, being that it frees up test. When I run more test with tren, the sides get quite a bit worse. I would think more free test would do the same, ya know?

I want to run Mast kinda high to let it shine when I do. I was thinking like 200 tren e 600 mast e. I've heard it's very good for strength as well. It's methylated brother has always got me strong af. I know it won't be on that level, but still curious.

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[Multislacking]

Im dying right now.

It's weird that with tren it lowers sides, being that it frees up test. When I run more test with tren, the sides get quite a bit worse. I would think more free test would do the same, ya know?

I want to run Mast kinda high to let it shine when I do. I was thinking like 200 tren e 600 mast e. I've heard it's very good for strength as well. It's methylated brother has always got me strong af. I know it won't be on that level, but still curious.

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I will say it does NOT lower tren sides of night sweats, insomnia, etc for me. It might...might...dampen them some. But I think that is going to be highly up to the individual using them. Mostly it helps with the mental aspects and other things I mentioned.

As far as a cycle based around mast...the cost may outweigh the returns. I've heard the old cliché it shines around a gram, but who wants to shell out the dough for a gram a week? Plus everything else.

 

[Astro95]

Not sure at what age Tren shouldn’t be ran or what not, but I’d start at 100mg a week max. Doesn’t take much Tren Ace to know you’re on Tren, doesn’t take long either. From there your call if you go up to 150mg a week. I literally experience sides same day or after on Ace. Sides are person and dosage dependent like everything. I switched from Tren E to Ace, same day I pinned Ace body temp increased. Wasn’t an issue on E. Anger issues I feel they’re easier to control the more Tren cycles you do. Eventually you catch on it’s the Tren and you stop to use your brain instead of letting the anger control your actions (You’ll still lose it though) Also, anger imo is more of a high dose side.

Tren cough happens when you hit a vein, wether you mix with another compound or not. As long as the oil doesn’t hit your bloodstream, you won’t get the cough. The cough can be mild to moderate to extreme. I personally don’t think it’s bad at all especially when pinning with a 1/2 needle it can hit whenever it wants. If I have a 1” needle in my lat however the cough better wait till I’m done pinning otherwise lord have mercy on my soul.

Sides of Tren Ace go away within days after I stop pinning, I’d say in a week I’m somewhat back to normal, definitely out of the red if sides were terrible and I bailed on the compound. That’s my personal experience, some have reported sides linger for a while.

 

[Wiseguy]

Background: Decades of consistent lifting, last 3 years with PEDs, 5 cycles total. On TRT. 50, 11%bf, 218. Have never tried tren. Diet is very tight, 6 days a week of cardio in AM, lifting in PM.

At this age am not interested in megadosing anything but am curious what 100-150mg tren a week with 200mg test would do for me. 6 weeks probably, bloodwork at week 4.

1. For those that have had sides with tren A, how long after stopping did the sides go away? Are we talking a day or two of misery or longer? My biggest concern is becoming short tempered though am not prone to this and no other AAS have. But something I definitely don't want to be, at home or at work.

2. Tren cough. Have never seen anyone comment on this, does mixing with test in same vial so the tren is more dilute, has this helped anyone avoid the cough? Sounds freaking awful when it happens.

Thanks.

I am 58 and have a detailed log in Muscleshop forum under contest cutting cycle. I never run over three hundred and no sides. Cough happens 3 or 4 times but you learn to manage. Mixing won’t help. Mine was mixed with test. Masteron and primo.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

I am 58 and have a detailed log in Muscleshop forum under contest cutting cycle. I never run over three hundred and no sides. Cough happens 3 or 4 times but you learn to manage. Mixing won’t help. Mine was mixed with test. Masteron and primo.

Mixing it helps with most people.
1:1 helps

I've never got tren cough with 2:1 ratio. Such as 1cc tren 2 cc test.

Im surprised diliting it doesn't help you. You're very lean though. I have nice plump cheeks to poke into


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[Wiseguy]

Mixing it helps with most people.
1:1 helps

I've never got tren cough with 2:1 ratio. Such as 1cc tren 2 cc test.

Im surprised diliting it doesn't help you. You're very lean though. I have nice plump cheeks to poke into


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Lol. It doesn’t help. I can manage it pretty well and over within a minute or so.

 

[ghazni]

Okay tried 30mg tren A monday night, no cough thankfully. Tuesday mid day, so 20h later, felt pretty warm for about 2h. Not unpleasant just different, faded by evening. Nothing today except resting hr is 80 instead of 70 upon waking.

Does that sound like it was in reaction to the tren? Could totally be in my head which is why I ask. Am on 250 test c and 50 proviron which i run year round off cycle.

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[Raekwon]

Should start a log where a bunch of dudes who are scared of teen start running tren. I’d do it. Lol.

 

[Darkstorm78]

I did a tren e test e cycle mid last year. 12 week cycle, 200mg tren and 250mg test a week, split into 2 administrations.

Only had very very mild night sweats a couple times and no other sides during cycle. However, I noticed more body hair and hair recession a week after finishing my cycle. Also facial hair grew a lot quicker than normal. I would say at least 2x faster.

Facial hair growth rate went back to normal after 3 weeks. Still have the extra body hair 😬😂

 

[ghazni]

For anyone debating trying, I wanted to share that I decided to try again. 40mg 3x a week. With 300 test and 300 masteron. 2500 cal, 300g protein. 225, 12%

3rd week now. Believe I'm seeing more vascularity. Up 2lbs but definitely does not look like water or fat.
I noticed the first few injections I felt like an adrenaline rush and warmer mid day next day for a few hours. That has faded, can't tell anything next day now.

No shortness of breath, night sweats or insomnia. No anger, anxiety or temper. Appetite slightly higher. Feel good.

I'll stay at this dose for 6 or 8 weeks then stop and recheck bloodwork.

Hope that's helpful for someone. Will report back down the road.

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