Pre-Competition Cycle

[Push50]

First, what is your favorite, or go to pre-contest stack?

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The following is to me what a pre-contest cycle should look like:
16 weeks out- You must have your diet and workout routines dials in at this point, if not, there is no point! Dosage rates are an individual aspect of running AAS and everyone will respond differently, so I will not include dosages.
Weeks 16 – 13
Test E or C
Tren E
Anadrol (4 weeks)
HGH

Weeks 13 – 9
Test E or C
Tren E
HGH
ECA Stack/Clen – (2 weeks on/2 weeks off) rotation

Weeks 9 - 4 (at this point if your body fat is around 8% consider adding in Mast. Some people will go with EQ. I would personally run with Mast. It doesn’t build muscle very well but the hardness that your will gain in the muscles is unequalled. Mast will also thin the skin, and hone definition- this is more for aesthetics than anything else. Again, if you are not in single digit BF% range this is not for you. Another choice at this point would be Primo- which will help to continue building muscle mass even when you are running a caloric deficit.
Test E or C
Tren E
HGH
Mast/EQ/Primo ( only looking to add one of these) still using longer esters at this point.
ECA Stack/Clen – (2 weeks on/2 weeks off) rotation

6 weeks out add Winstrol

4 weeks out - time to change it up and start running shorter esters
Test P
Tren A
Mast P
HGH
ECA Stack/Clen – (2 weeks on/2 weeks off) rotation
T3

The last 10 days of your prep are, in my opinion, the most critical. It is make it or break it time.

At this point you are dropping all injections and clen. You can continue to run your orals.

Start tapering your calories. About 10 calories/lbs per day. There isn’t any sense in dropping much further because at this point you are not going to lose any more fat. Even here, you may start burning some muscle for energy. The bulk of your calories here are going to need to come from proteins (not shakes) 1.5gm/lb, that’s going to be about 2/3’s of your total intake for the day. Stick to the proteins that you have been running, don’t try to change thing this late in the game. Change your carbs up and began reducing them. By day 5 or 4 you can drop them altogether since they retain fluids. Cut fats.

If you have the proper guidance and or experience, you can incorporate diuretics into the fold around 3 days out as well. Always look for potassium sparing diuretics and stay away from Lasix. ie.. Dyazide and Aldactone

Days 10 – 3 -SALT,SALT,SALT. Salt your food, and even consider a little salt in your water. This will promote the body to excrete salt and water follows salt. After day 3 drop the salt altogether. This means absolutely no shake, liquid egg whites, hot sauces and so forth.

Don’t change up your workouts but now is not the time to try and hit any PR’s either. The last thing you want now is an injury.

10 days out you want to also, you will want to increase your fluid intake to about ½ gallon more than you would usually take in. Always measure you water, don’t guess. Day 4 I cut my water intake to a quart or about 1 liter, 3 half of that. By day 2 I usually only do a swish and spit to reduce my fluids and continue this until after the competition. I have seen may guys rehydrate right after weighing in and then they lose a lot of their definition.

Make sure to get plenty of rest this is crucial at anytime but being at a major caloric deficit and dehydrating will take its toll. Even some cat naps where you can, will be beneficial.

 

[XOTG85]

This is crucial info that guy's will pay big $$$ for, but Push is sharing for free. Big props to Push50.

 

[jozifp103]

And this is why I don't compete lol. Great info though. If I ever do find it on me to commit to this level this info would definitely be useful.

 

[Push50]

And this is why I don't compete lol. Great info though. If I ever do find it on me to commit to this level this info would definitely be useful.

Two comp this year but I don’t know if my wife will get on board with it. I’m still trying to sway her. We will see


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[Push50]

First, what is your favorite, or go to pre-contest stack?

ALL CONTENT IS PROVIDED STRICTLY FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES. UNCLE Z AND MYSELF MAKE NO REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND AS TO THE CONTENT, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, IMPLIED USE OF AAS/PEDS, MEDICAL ISSUES OF ATHLETS, MEDICAL ADVICE. BY USING ANY CONTENT IN ANY WAY, WHETHER OR NOT AUTHORIZED, THE USER ASSUMES ALL RISK AND HEREBY RELEASES UNCLE Z AND MYSELF FROM ANY AND ALL LIABILITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONTENT.

The following is to me what a pre-contest cycle should look like:
16 weeks out- You must have your diet and workout routines dials in at this point, if not, there is no point! Dosage rates are an individual aspect of running AAS and everyone will respond differently, so I will not include dosages.
Weeks 16 – 13
Test E or C
Tren E
Anadrol (4 weeks)
HGH

Weeks 13 – 9
Test E or C
Tren E
HGH
ECA Stack/Clen – (2 weeks on/2 weeks off) rotation

Weeks 9 - 4 (at this point if your body fat is around 8% consider adding in Mast. Some people will go with EQ. I would personally run with Mast. It doesn’t build muscle very well but the hardness that your will gain in the muscles is unequalled. Mast will also thin the skin, and hone definition- this is more for aesthetics than anything else. Again, if you are not in single digit BF% range this is not for you. Another choice at this point would be Primo- which will help to continue building muscle mass even when you are running a caloric deficit.
Test E or C
Tren E
HGH
Mast/EQ/Primo ( only looking to add one of these) still using longer esters at this point.
ECA Stack/Clen – (2 weeks on/2 weeks off) rotation

6 weeks out add Winstrol

4 weeks out - time to change it up and start running shorter esters
Test P
Tren A
Mast P
HGH
ECA Stack/Clen – (2 weeks on/2 weeks off) rotation
T3

The last 10 days of your prep are, in my opinion, the most critical. It is make it or break it time.

At this point you are dropping all injections and clen. You can continue to run your orals.

Start tapering your calories. About 10 calories/lbs per day. There isn’t any sense in dropping much further because at this point you are not going to lose any more fat. Even here, you may start burning some muscle for energy. The bulk of your calories here are going to need to come from proteins (not shakes) 1.5gm/lb, that’s going to be about 2/3’s of your total intake for the day. Stick to the proteins that you have been running, don’t try to change thing this late in the game. Change your carbs up and began reducing them. By day 5 or 4 you can drop them altogether since they retain fluids. Cut fats.

If you have the proper guidance and or experience, you can incorporate diuretics into the fold around 3 days out as well. Always look for potassium sparing diuretics and stay away from Lasix. ie.. Dyazide and Aldactone

Days 10 – 3 -SALT,SALT,SALT. Salt your food, and even consider a little salt in your water. This will promote the body to excrete salt and water follows salt. After day 3 drop the salt altogether. This means absolutely no shake, liquid egg whites, hot sauces and so forth.

Don’t change up your workouts but now is not the time to try and hit any PR’s either. The last thing you want now is an injury.

10 days out you want to also, you will want to increase your fluid intake to about ½ gallon more than you would usually take in. Always measure you water, don’t guess. Day 4 I cut my water intake to a quart or about 1 liter, 3 half of that. By day 2 I usually only do a swish and spit to reduce my fluids and continue this until after the competition. I have seen may guys rehydrate right after weighing in and then they lose a lot of their definition.

Make sure to get plenty of rest this is crucial at anytime but being at a major caloric deficit and dehydrating will take its toll. Even some cat naps where you can, will be beneficial.

Thea pics are ten days apart, having followed the above protocol with the exclusion of the diuretics.

Thoughts?


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[XOTG85]

I'd say you've put in the work and it shows. The winstrol was a nice finishing touch You killed it brother!

 

[Push50]

I'd say you've put in the work and it shows. The winstrol was a nice finishing touch You killed it brother!

Thanks brother. Always love to hear from you. You have always been there even when I was not at my best. Input from you has always helped me to push harder to reach my goal. Thank you


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[XOTG85]

You always got my respect brother.

 

[CoachCabo]

Push, we have exchanged my thoughts on cycles before but I do think whatever works for someone, they should stick with it usually.

Mine are pretty simple and sort of low…sort of.

16-9 Weeks out is:
600mg test cyp
600mg Eq or 400mg deca
2iu of HGH 5 days a week (although this is a constant year ‘round or as long as I have some).

I might add clenbuterol at 60mcg/day.

8 weeks to show:
I keep the test the same.
200mg T. cyp EOD
50mg tren acetate EOD
100mg mast propionate EOD

I might up the clen to 100mcg and play around with T3 if I need a bit of a boost. (Old age is a motherfucker on metabolism.)

This time I was doing 62.5mcg T3 at the two week out mark plus 80mcg of clen.

I add 20mg/day of Halotestin two weeks out simply because I have a good amount of it, tested and verified as real. Some guys love it, others think it doesn’t do much. I don’t know so I toss it in there just in case.

Two halves of a Dyazide on Friday before the show. One at 1400 and the other 2100.

Here’s where I was three weeks ago or so, 16 days out On this protocol (using deca as my choice).

 

[Push50]

@CoachCabo
I would agree, if it works they way you are running it don’t change it. I’m just trying to give guys a baseline and help the to understand that 2 weeks out is not the time to slack off. I really like Dyazide. Much better than Lasix and not as much of a risk.
I’m not currently competing but since I wrote the post I felt like being able to see the difference you can make in 10 days was important.
Your looking good coach. Hope you do well and stay safe.

 

[arnold98]

First, what is your favorite, or go to pre-contest stack?

ALL CONTENT IS PROVIDED STRICTLY FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES. UNCLE Z AND MYSELF MAKE NO REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND AS TO THE CONTENT, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, IMPLIED USE OF AAS/PEDS, MEDICAL ISSUES OF ATHLETS, MEDICAL ADVICE. BY USING ANY CONTENT IN ANY WAY, WHETHER OR NOT AUTHORIZED, THE USER ASSUMES ALL RISK AND HEREBY RELEASES UNCLE Z AND MYSELF FROM ANY AND ALL LIABILITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONTENT.

The following is to me what a pre-contest cycle should look like:
16 weeks out- You must have your diet and workout routines dials in at this point, if not, there is no point! Dosage rates are an individual aspect of running AAS and everyone will respond differently, so I will not include dosages.
Weeks 16 – 13
Test E or C
Tren E
Anadrol (4 weeks)
HGH

Weeks 13 – 9
Test E or C
Tren E
HGH
ECA Stack/Clen – (2 weeks on/2 weeks off) rotation

Weeks 9 - 4 (at this point if your body fat is around 8% consider adding in Mast. Some people will go with EQ. I would personally run with Mast. It doesn’t build muscle very well but the hardness that your will gain in the muscles is unequalled. Mast will also thin the skin, and hone definition- this is more for aesthetics than anything else. Again, if you are not in single digit BF% range this is not for you. Another choice at this point would be Primo- which will help to continue building muscle mass even when you are running a caloric deficit.
Test E or C
Tren E
HGH
Mast/EQ/Primo ( only looking to add one of these) still using longer esters at this point.
ECA Stack/Clen – (2 weeks on/2 weeks off) rotation

6 weeks out add Winstrol

4 weeks out - time to change it up and start running shorter esters
Test P
Tren A
Mast P
HGH
ECA Stack/Clen – (2 weeks on/2 weeks off) rotation
T3

The last 10 days of your prep are, in my opinion, the most critical. It is make it or break it time.

At this point you are dropping all injections and clen. You can continue to run your orals.

Start tapering your calories. About 10 calories/lbs per day. There isn’t any sense in dropping much further because at this point you are not going to lose any more fat. Even here, you may start burning some muscle for energy. The bulk of your calories here are going to need to come from proteins (not shakes) 1.5gm/lb, that’s going to be about 2/3’s of your total intake for the day. Stick to the proteins that you have been running, don’t try to change thing this late in the game. Change your carbs up and began reducing them. By day 5 or 4 you can drop them altogether since they retain fluids. Cut fats.

If you have the proper guidance and or experience, you can incorporate diuretics into the fold around 3 days out as well. Always look for potassium sparing diuretics and stay away from Lasix. ie.. Dyazide and Aldactone

Days 10 – 3 -SALT,SALT,SALT. Salt your food, and even consider a little salt in your water. This will promote the body to excrete salt and water follows salt. After day 3 drop the salt altogether. This means absolutely no shake, liquid egg whites, hot sauces and so forth.

Don’t change up your workouts but now is not the time to try and hit any PR’s either. The last thing you want now is an injury.

10 days out you want to also, you will want to increase your fluid intake to about ½ gallon more than you would usually take in. Always measure you water, don’t guess. Day 4 I cut my water intake to a quart or about 1 liter, 3 half of that. By day 2 I usually only do a swish and spit to reduce my fluids and continue this until after the competition. I have seen may guys rehydrate right after weighing in and then they lose a lot of their definition.

Make sure to get plenty of rest this is crucial at anytime but being at a major caloric deficit and dehydrating will take its toll. Even some cat naps where you can, will be beneficial.

Thanks for the quality run-down very helpful, currently at 8 weeks myself was looking to order from you but in your opinion the short esters would you get separately or would the cutting mix do the same job?

 

[Push50]

8 weeks out! Where is your current bf? With the cutting mix you are running short esters, so you’ll be pinning more frequently but it is a great blend. But you should consider the Gold Line Cutting Mix Plus with Drostanolone is an awesome blend, especially if you are already lower in body fat. The mast in the cutting mix plus is awesome and you will see great results even if you are at 10% but if you are even lower say 6-7 maybe even 8%! POW!! I think the cut mix plus is great because if you go with the stand alone a vials, if you want to run the same 100/100/100 then you are going to typically pin more at one time. Tren ace, test prop and drostanolone prop are all 100mg/ml. Three times as much volume as the cut plus.

 

[arnold98]

8 weeks out! Where is your current bf? With the cutting mix you are running short esters, so you’ll be pinning more frequently but it is a great blend. But you should consider the Gold Line Cutting Mix Plus with Drostanolone is an awesome blend, especially if you are already lower in body fat. The mast in the cutting mix plus is awesome and you will see great results even if you are at 10% but if you are even lower say 6-7 maybe even 8%! POW!! I think the cut mix plus is great because if you go with the stand alone a vials, if you want to run the same 100/100/100 then you are going to typically pin more at one time. Tren ace, test prop and drostanolone prop are all 100mg/ml. Three times as much volume as the cut plus.

Ah thanks for the reply, honestly I don't measure bf but a good guess is around 10 definitely a fair bit of dieting to go lol. Yeah my plan is to do 100/100/100 but not exactly sure if stand alone would be same as cut mix plus. Sorry if it's a bit of a silly question but the cut mix plus would be 100/100/100 in 1ml which is same as 1ml drost, 1ml tren a, 1ml test p?

 

[Push50]

Ah thanks for the reply, honestly I don't measure bf but a good guess is around 10 definitely a fair bit of dieting to go lol. Yeah my plan is to do 100/100/100 but not exactly sure if stand alone would be same as cut mix plus. Sorry if it's a bit of a silly question but the cut mix plus would be 100/100/100 in 1ml which is same as 1ml drost, 1ml tren a, 1ml test p?

No! The cut mix plus has 300mg/ml, 100mg of ea. if you run stand a line you will inject 3 mls to get the same dosage.


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[arnold98]

No! The cut mix plus has 300mg/ml, 100mg of ea. if you run stand a line you will inject 3 mls to get the same dosage.


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Thanks so much for that, that's way easier, wish I'd have known earlier would of made last prep 10x better lol

 

[Push50]

No worries brother. That’s what I’m here for. Please fell free to reach out of you have any more questions.

 

[Geachem]

I like to wait a little longer on the Winstrol....I use mostly anavar until that point, Winstrol maybe twice a week, tops. Then the last 3 weeks I pile it in, 80 mgs a day right up to the show.

 

[arnold98]

I like to wait a little longer on the Winstrol....I use mostly anavar until that point, Winstrol maybe twice a week, tops. Then the last 3 weeks I pile it in, 80 mgs a day right up to the show.

How's the hair on 80 winstrol, I start getting thin on 40 a day lol

 

[Wiseguy]

Very good read. The only thing I would say is that many react differently to drug combos, salt, water and carbs. I’ve been competing for decades and my routine and gear choice is different than yours, similar but different. Everyone should see what works for them. The layout is very good. Well done brio

 

[Geachem]

How's the hair on 80 winstrol, I start getting thin on 40 a day lol

I was resistant to hair loss until I hit 59.Masteron is worse.

 

[Push50]

@Wiseguy
I would agree. Everyone will react differently to compounds. The point of this was to demonstrate to those that have never competed that at ten days out it is not time to take a break. It’s go time and you can make great strides in that last ten days.

 

[Wiseguy]

@Wiseguy
I would agree. Everyone will react differently to compounds. The point of this was to demonstrate to those that have never competed that at ten days out it is not time to take a break. It’s go time and you can make great strides in that last ten days.

Agreed and actually extremely critical time. Water retention, timing of carb loading and all kinds of other issues can hurt your chances if you are not dialed in. I've made many mistakes until I finally figured out what works for my body.

 

[Boykinben82]

I’ll never do a show but I love reading how precise you guy who do are about counting everything and which day to do what. Very impressive, thanks for sharing.

 

[Wiseguy]

I’ll never do a show but I love reading how precise you guy who do are about counting everything and which day to do what. Very impressive, thanks for sharing.

It gets extremely nerve wrecking. If you carb up timing is not right you will have a spill over and look like shit. 5 months of prep for two minutes on the stage. Is brutal.

 

[Boykinben82]

It gets extremely nerve wrecking. If you carb up timing is not right you will have a spill over and look like shit. 5 months of prep for two minutes on the stage. Is brutal.

Sounds like it brother I love all of your advise on here. Trust me I take in what I read it’s very precise and intelligent from true experience. I respect all of you guys on here that do shows it’s a true science and dedication.

 

[Geachem]

I’ll never do a show but I love reading how precise you guy who do are about counting everything and which day to do what. Very impressive, thanks for sharing.

Honestly dude, when it comes to gear you just pile it in the last few weeks, just cut anything that causes water retention at least 12 days out. If you do your diuretics right you can eat cake and ice cream the last couple of days and come in shredded. In fact, I go out for Italian the day before (and eat pastries and ice cream) and come in with cross striated glutei.

What you won't see on this forum, or on the net at all, is the diuretic formulas. Diuretics are the only thing you must be very, very precise about the last week, using very precise ratio's of the 3 major diuretic types. These are very tightly controlled.

 

[Boykinben82]

Honestly dude, when it comes to gear you just pile it in the last few weeks, just cut anything that causes water retention at least 12 days out. If you do your diuretics right you can eat cake and ice cream the last couple of days and come in shredded. In fact, I go out for Italian the day before (and eat pastries and ice cream) and come in with cross striated glutei.

What you won't see on this forum, or on the net at all, is the diuretic formulas. Diuretics are the only thing you must be very, very precise about the last week, using very precise ratio's of the 3 major diuretic types. These are very tightly controlled.

That’s cool how you guys learn all this stuff. Is it all from experience, word of mouth or research? I’m guessing all 3.

 

[Geachem]

Honestly dude, when it comes to gear you just pile it in the last few weeks, just cut anything that causes water retention at least 12 days out. If you do your diuretics right you can eat cake and ice cream the last couple of days and come in shredded. In fact, I go out for Italian the day before (and eat pastries and ice cream) and come in with cross striated glutei.

What you won't see on this forum, or on the net at all, is the diuretic formulas. Diuretics are the only thing you must be very, very precise about the last week, using very precise ratio's of the 3 major diuretic types. These are very tightly controlled. Just taking some diazied the night before the show won't do anything for you (good or bad).

 

[Geachem]

That’s cool how you guys learn all this stuff. Is it all from experience, word of mouth or research? I’m guessing all 3.

Years of experience, and most of what I know, you won't be able to read on the net. For example, at my last show, the Texas State the top 3 of us discussed what we did. The guy who beat me would easily have gotten a pro card, but for some reason did not go to nationals. I though he was going which is why I did not go (only the winners get a pro card, this is open bodybuilding, not physique or classic where everyone gets one). For example, the guy who beat me, ran 800 mgs of Masteron/week.

Proper diuretic use starts 7-10 days out.

 

[Boykinben82]

Years of experience, and most of what I know, you won't be able to read on the net. For example, at my last show, the Texas State the top 3 of us discussed what we did. The guy who beat me would easily have gotten a pro card, but for some reason did not go to nationals. I though he was going which is why I did not go (only the winners get a pro card, this is open bodybuilding, not physique or classic where everyone gets one). For example, the guy who beat me, ran 800 mgs of Masteron/week.

Proper diuretic use starts 7-10 days out.

Much respect. I like how you guys share that in here for the guts who do shows or have goals of getting into them. It’s such valuable knowledge to help the new guys looking to go that route or the guys who have been doing it but need advise to excel even further.