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Is it the volume of the vial that affects the pain? Because I’ve been taking test shots for 2 years now, the ones the doc gives are really small viles, yet the viles I get from labs here are jumbo size and even though the MG are the same with both reading 200 mg of test or other gear, the volume and size of the bottles here are 2, 3 and even 4x the liquid substance.

What gives with the volume differentials are they adding in more water or something?

It’s kinda difficult using these jumbo size viles because the post injections are always ridiculously painful. I have never once felt this type of pain using the smaller viles. On top of that, if you don’t have a giant syringe capable of doing one drawl of the liquid, you are looking at 4 to 5 or more stacking yourself. Compared to 1 drawl of a regular pharamacy vile of things like test c.

Only thing I can think of this point, is these viles contain so much liquids, that they are swelling up your veins with unneeded stuff. So only thing I can think of is doing different placement shots, half in one leg and half in another leg, or quarter liquid in the shoulders and legs. Because this doesn’t seem to be doable, how can I get to consistent training and work, if every shot I’m getting 2 days of knock off which can barely manage of the pain.

Might have to just find labs here that sell smaller volumes of liquid. Or stick with bulk of orals on the most part.
 

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Is it the volume of the vial that affects the pain? Because I’ve been taking test shots for 2 years now, the ones the doc gives are really small viles, yet the viles I get from labs here are jumbo size and even though the MG are the same with both reading 200 mg of test or other gear, the volume and size of the bottles here are 2, 3 and even 4x the liquid substance.

What gives with the volume differentials are they adding in more water or something?

It’s kinda difficult using these jumbo size viles because the post injections are always ridiculously painful. I have never once felt this type of pain using the smaller viles. On top of that, if you don’t have a giant syringe capable of doing one drawl of the liquid, you are looking at 4 to 5 or more stacking yourself. Compared to 1 drawl of a regular pharamacy vile of things like test c.

Only thing I can think of this point, is these viles contain so much liquids, that they are swelling up your veins with unneeded stuff. So only thing I can think of is doing different placement shots, half in one leg and half in another leg, or quarter liquid in the shoulders and legs. Because this doesn’t seem to be doable, how can I get to consistent training and work, if every shot I’m getting 2 days of knock off which can barely manage of the pain.

Might have to just find labs here that sell smaller volumes of liquid. Or stick with bulk of orals on the most part.

I don't think you quite understand the math.
The smaller vials given out by some doctors are 5ml vials. Which means they contain 5ml (cc's) of oil. Lets assume we're talking about testosterone. If this 5ml vial is dosed at 200mg/1ml. This means there is roughly 1,000mg of the testosterone hormone in the vial. (200mgx5ml=1,000mg) The larger and more common vials are 10ml. These contain 10ml of oil. Again assuming we're talking about testosterone, If the test is dosed at 200mg/1ml, there is roughly 2,000mg of the active testosterone hormone in the vial(200mgx10ml = 2,000mg)
So yeah, with the larger you are getting twice as much oil, but you are also getting twice as much hormone.
 

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I don't think you quite understand the math.
The smaller vials given out by some doctors are 5ml vials. Which means they contain 5ml (cc's) of oil. Lets assume we're talking about testosterone. If this 5ml vial is dosed at 200mg/1ml. This means there is roughly 1,000mg of the testosterone hormone in the vial. (200mgx5ml=1,000mg) The larger and more common vials are 10ml. These contain 10ml of oil. Again assuming we're talking about testosterone, If the test is dosed at 200mg/1ml, there is roughly 2,000mg of the active testosterone hormone in the vial(200mgx10ml = 2,000mg)
So yeah, with the larger you are getting twice as much oil, but you are also getting twice as much hormone.
Alright. I guess that answers my question. But what’s up with the post injection pain, so I have to spread out the oil to have less pain?

Doc use to tell me to micro dose when I first started, but I don’t see why, not enough oil to make a difference so I take the whole vile at a time.

So when it comes to the 250 mg test c of a 10 ml vile, taking it all at once you’re saying is too much? I just break it down to 1 vile of test a week same with all my gear.
 

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Alright. I guess that answers my question. But what’s up with the post injection pain, so I have to spread out the oil to have less pain?

Doc use to tell me to micro dose when I first started, but I don’t see why, not enough oil to make a difference so I take the whole vile at a time.

So when it comes to the 250 mg test c of a 10 ml vile, taking it all at once you’re saying is too much? I just break it down to 1 vile of test a week same with all my gear.
I knew it was.

You need to talk to your doctor, or an elementary school teacher and get them to explain how it works.

Someone save this boy from himself.
 

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I get the math now when getting the test from docs compared to what the labs offer, then that seems a substantial amount of difference. Your going base of 200mg x each ML equates into that total of the hormone. Shiet. Than the ones the doctors give aren’t all that much, you’re getting 10x more hormone from the 10ml.

Alright.
 

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Do you feel good!?

It looked like you had terrible pips...
Anyway, I can believe you feel good...at 2 g of testosterone per injection, how can you not feel good!? :D
At this point, it seems one must also be smart or professional about these things, I remember used a very old syringe needle and that shit went south, swoll up not just the injection site but my whole leg with infection.

So I’d say of course which you all probably know already is, use out of the box syringes and needle tubes. Along with using alcohol suave, just to lessen PIP, not just gas and go, stick and reuse. Since it’s intramuscular, any bacteria would go directly in bypassing a lot of immune system defense shields and barriers.

Keep shit clean and fresh, and be professional about it.
 

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I'm a little in shock or maybe im reading this post wrong? Did he inject an entire 10ml vial?

So no matter the size of the vial you go by whats on the vile its its the little one at the doctors says 200/ml and the Huge bottles youre talking about and it says 200/ml its the same. 1cc of either bottle comes out to the same
 

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I get the math now when getting the test from docs compared to what the labs offer, then that seems a substantial amount of difference. Your going base of 200mg x each ML equates into that total of the hormone. Shiet. Than the ones the doctors give aren’t all that much, you’re getting 10x more hormone from the 10ml.

Alright.
think, if you take 20ml vial, you have doubled the hormone.
is there any source here i think it has 20ml bottles
 

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Alright. I guess that answers my question. But what’s up with the post injection pain, so I have to spread out the oil to have less pain?

Doc use to tell me to micro dose when I first started, but I don’t see why, not enough oil to make a difference so I take the whole vile at a time.

So when it comes to the 250 mg test c of a 10 ml vile, taking it all at once you’re saying is too much? I just break it down to 1 vile of test a week same with all my gear.
Aren't you the guy who had all the books and a bunch of PHD friends? And you couldn't figure out which shot would give you PIP when comparing a 250mg/1ml shot vs a 2,500mg/10cc shot?
 

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I'm a little in shock or maybe im reading this post wrong? Did he inject an entire 10ml vial?

So no matter the size of the vial you go by whats on the vile its its the little one at the doctors says 200/ml and the Huge bottles youre talking about and it says 200/ml its the same. 1cc of either bottle comes out to the same
Interesting. I don’t know what you mean. But according to Phill, that seems to be the math in how much hormone is in each vile. I don’t know if that’s truly the case, but seems about right.

My doc gives me the 1 ml vile of 200 mg of test. So that’s equates into a low 200 mg in its entirety.

While my test I get from the labs is 250 mg, of a 10ml vile, which means I’m injecting 2,500 mg of test per week.

Shiet. In that case, imma stick to this regiment. I don’t think it’s extreme, I think a vile a day is extreme. 😂 You probably will have some health complications, but like all the books I have on subject, it says you can’t O.D (overdose) on this shit like Tylenol or heroine.

This makes it awesome. I can go ying yang on this mother fucker. 🤭 I mean, even to that note, the celebrities like Arnold and olympias and wwe, wcw, nwo and pro wrestler troupe are on record taking hundreds of thousands of dollars to millions of dollars worth. So me being a poor guy, even if I blow all my money on a 2,000 dollar cycle per month, that ain’t gonna be shit compared to their cycles. Still I’ll get some good gains for my self.
 

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I'm a little in shock or maybe im reading this post wrong? Did he inject an entire 10ml vial?

So no matter the size of the vial you go by whats on the vile its its the little one at the doctors says 200/ml and the Huge bottles youre talking about and it says 200/ml its the same. 1cc of either bottle comes out to the same
Seems like it.

Coming from the the man earlier this week arguing with every user about androgenic/anabolic compounds, trans women, and cows using his books to flick information like the Bible is injecting 10ml of test unknowingly.
 

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Seems like it.

Coming from the the man earlier this week arguing with every user about androgenic/anabolic compounds, trans women, and cows using books his books to flick information like the Bible is injecting 10ml of test unknowingly.
I knew it was the same guy! He doesn't have a profile pic though, so I wasn't sure.
 

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Aren't you the guy who had all the books and a bunch of PHD friends? And you couldn't figure out which shot would give you PIP when comparing a 250mg/1ml shot vs a 2,500mg/10cc shot?
I don’t ask those things, thought I had the basics down. I only look into potency levels, which offers the most gains, but still learning. I said I bought the books, i didn’t write the books, I only look for things of my own interest.

Also, a lot of factors come into PIP. Not just one.
 

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I don’t ask those things, thought I had the basics down. I only look into potency levels, which offers the most gains, but still learning. I said I bought the books, i didn’t write the books, I only look for things of my own interest.
Dude dosage is the basics. It's literally the first thing you should learn. Otherwise you'll end up injecting 10cc's :ROFLMAO:
 

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I think a vile a day is extreme. 😂 You probably will have some health complications, but like all the books I have on subject, it says you can’t O.D (overdose) on this shit like Tylenol or heroine.

Books are good! Keep growing and let us know how that goes for research purposes!
 
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